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Post by sog on Feb 14, 2018 16:21:47 GMT -6
I’ve started this thread as a way for me to get my thoughts in order as well as share something I think is important. Please feel free to poke any holes in my observations/opinion.
I’ve been thinking about this “Angel of Peace” medallion that the pope has given to a few world leaders. It was said in a couple of articles that he gives this medallion to world leaders and heads of state. I could only find four:
March 27, 2014 pope gives USA President Barrack Obama the bronze angel of peace medallion. Pope Francis specified that the gift was actually a personal gesture from him, “from Jorge Bergoglio” (Popes real name). Why so personal with this medallion? (*Sept. 23, 2015 Pope gives Obama a different Medallion. It was the 2015 World Meeting of Families in Philadelphia)
May 16, 2015 pope gives Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas the bronze angel of peace medallion.
June 19, 2015 pope give Russian President Vladimir Putin the bronze angel of peace medallion.
February 5, 2018 pope gives Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan the bronze angel of peace medallion.
Other than the 2nd medallion given to Obama on Sept 23rd of 2015, I don’t see anything significant with those dates, but I’ll leave that to you number crunchers and constellation watchers to look into if you want.
It has been bothering me that I cannot find a good image of it, like it is being deliberately concealed from us. It’s described as a bronze medallion showing an angel embracing the northern and southern hemispheres while overcoming a dragon that is appearing to split the earth in two. I am suspicious of this description. I read another description that sounded more like they were both close together and both had arms/wings wrapped around a split world. Could this be Satan and the Antichrist trying to unify and rule the world? It seems like a new world order medallion. One being given out by the pope.
So, what is interesting is whom these have been given to. The first leader, Obama, we know holds anti-Israel/pro-muslim beliefs. He gave 100’s of millions to Iran (Persia) and basically gave them the go ahead with Nuclear development. The last three of those four leaders represent the prophesied nations lined up against Israel in Isaiah 17.
I’ll go into this more later, but this gives a good starting point.
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Post by fitz on Feb 14, 2018 16:42:09 GMT -6
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Post by sog on Feb 14, 2018 20:07:34 GMT -6
Fitz, that is interesting. His description is closer to what I was thinking. That it is almost a conjoined dragon/serpent and angel. Too bad we only get a side angle. I can’t believe there is not a straight on picture of this thing. I’m also curious what the possible meaning of it being made out of bronze might be. But the most interesting is who it was given to and what that means. I’ll try to follow up tomorrow on that.
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Post by sog on Feb 15, 2018 11:21:21 GMT -6
Alright, back to these supposed peace medal recipients. I believe their intent in Syria is more ominous. This will turn out to be especially true if during this conflict, Damascus gets destroyed as prophesied in Isaiah 17. Isaiah 17:1 — Behold, Damascus is about to be removed from being a city And will become a fallen ruin. This event is probably the next big one in prophecy. This event would set up everything else, including the Third Temple, the Antichrist, the Rapture, etc. So, what has to happen before this event? I think it can be found in Psalm 83 and in my opinion this is already taking place. I believe the armies of the countries in the Syrian war conflict are already aligning themselves up for the real prize. Israel. Attacks are ongoing between the countries involved and Iran and Russia are arming the countries around Israel. www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/report-iran-built-arms-factories-in-lebanon-for-hezbollah-1.5448394Iran reportedly has built weapons factories in Lebanon for Hezbollah. Russia has been arming Syria for years. Psalm 83:1-8 — 1 God, do not keep silent. Do not be deaf, God; do not be idle. 2 See how Your enemies make an uproar; those who hate You have acted arrogantly. 3 They devise clever schemes against Your people; they conspire against Your treasured ones. 4 They say, “COME, let us wipe them out as a nation so that Israel’s name will no longer be remembered.” 5 For they have conspired with one mind; they form an alliance against You 6 the tents of Edom and the Ishmaelites, Moab and the Hagrites, 7 Gebal, Ammon, and Amalek, Philistia with the inhabitants of Tyre. 8 Even Assyria has joined them; they lend support to the sons of Lot. Psalm 83:12 — 12 who said, “Let us possess for ourselves The pastures of God.” Ok, so we know Turkey (Erdogan), Russia (Putin), and Iran are all involved in the Syrian conflict. And Palestine (Abbas) indirectly/directly through its terror organizations are likely involved as well. And we know these three men were given an “Angel of Peace” medallion by the pope. What is the meaning behind these “gifts”? These certainly are NOT men of peace. They are in fact the opposite of it. They are terrorists and killers of their own people. So why would the pope give peace medals to these three? Why would he give a peace medal to Obama who gave $1.7 billion ($400 million was the initial payment) in cash to Iran, a known terrorist funding country and enemy of Israel? And even worse, signed a nuclear agreement that has upset the balance of power in the middle east. The fear of Israel has diminished since they are no longer the only ones with nuclear weapons in the region. That is what has been weighing on me. Who are these men and what do they represent in these end times?
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Post by fitz on Feb 15, 2018 12:11:19 GMT -6
Well...2 form part of Gog-Magog, and many, many, many have speculated that Obama is the Anti-christ. (I have doubted about it...but who am I?)
What do all 3 politicians and the Pope have in common? They all hate Israel and the Jews.
IMHO.
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Post by sog on Feb 15, 2018 13:43:34 GMT -6
Fitz, yes I agree about Obama, but as we've become more aware of all the evil people he has been associated with, especially this latest artist, you have to wonder. So I'm going to go a step further. Of course, this is all just my opinion and conjecture, but could they be the antichrist? Obama alone? One of the other three or the other three together as an evil representation of the Holy Trinity? The pope the False Prophet? I think Satan has already communicated with the Antichrist and the False Prophet. I believe they know who they are already and are playing out their roles in these end times. And I believe these medallions were given as a signal to each that their time has come to put Satan’s end time plan in motion. A new world order with his reign coming. First with Obama to fund and arm Persia and their allies, Abbas with a continued push to split Jerusalem and Israel, Putin to arm and back Syria, and finally Erdogan to start the assault into Syria and ultimately toward Israel.
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Post by witness1 on Feb 15, 2018 20:23:05 GMT -6
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Post by sog on Feb 16, 2018 11:04:12 GMT -6
Witness, Yes that is just another indication to me that he is the False Prophet. Why wouldn't he give Trump the same medallion as the others? Because Trump is not among the inner circle that the others are in? The pope comes across as a man of peace, but I believe he is the opposite by his actions and deceptive words. Read these two links. Pretty good arguments for who he is. thewildvoice.org/pope-francis-analysis-statements-events/thewildvoice.org/pope-francis-chronology-perspective/This was one of the worst quotes: JUNE 15, 2013 Pope Francis says 'We look for Jesus Christ and say: 'This is your sin, and I will sin again'. And Jesus likes that, because it was his mission: to become the sinner for us' No. His mission was to be the sacrificial lamb of God and release us from our burden of sin if we accept him into our hearts, NOT to become the sinner! [Edit] I feel like I need to clarify this so there is no confusion. In 2 Corinthians 5:21 it says: "He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, so that we might become the righteousness of God in Him." so, yet God made him “to be sin.” Paul’s language is careful. He did not say Jesus became a sinner, which would be untrue. Rather, Jesus became the representative sin-bearer. This is the kind of slight deception that can get missed. You should read through the chronology of his statements. Unbelievable the things he has said. I know some people say we don't yet firmly know who the AC or FP are, and I agree, but I don't agree that it will be someone that is not already on the worlds stage. When the rapture comes it will be an immediate time of chaos. The world's people are going to be looking to someone who can step in quickly and reassure everyone that things will be ok and are under control. I don't believe that is going to be someone that is not well known at this time such as some lower level bureaucrat, financial or religious leader. I think the trust has to be immediate. Especially if you believe that the time is within the next couple years. The pope fits that bill. He is probably the most recognized, and by many, respected figure in the world. I believe that God many times presents things to us in such an obvious manner that we overlook it. We can't or don't want to see it or think it must be hidden in the trees to truly be from God. I find in my life that God has smacked me with the obvious many times. As for the AC, I think he also is someone that is already recognized the world over and trusted. He is the smooth talking attractive man. I have my opinion on that as well, but mull this over first.
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Post by witness1 on Feb 16, 2018 14:01:52 GMT -6
Wow. I never knew the pope said that. That is an excellent example of a falsehood so close to the truth that you really have to be paying attention to catch it. Good eye! I think you’re right that he is respected. I still scroll FB every now and then to get the general feel of the times, and a woman whom I used to be in Bible study with, who is a beautiful woman of God and truly loves Jesus, shared that picture and story of the pope going around right now. According to the viral FB post, a girl with Down’s syndrome wandered up to the pulpit during mass and he held her hand while he finished the homily. It turns out the story isn’t fully true... the event was some special olympics thing. Anyway, my point is that my Christian friend, whom I truly respect, shared this story. And don’t get me wrong- it’s a nice story. But I know he’s a wolf in sheep’s clothing and it’s seems like the majority of the world doesn’t realize that. www.google.com/amp/s/www.thesun.co.uk/news/5578718/pope-francis-girl-down-syndrome-real-story/amp/ Edit: I agree that the obvious answer is probably the right answer. If God intends for His people to know His plans, we have to believe the false prophet isn’t some obscure false preacher from nowhereville
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Post by fitz on Feb 16, 2018 14:43:02 GMT -6
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Post by sog on Feb 16, 2018 15:07:39 GMT -6
Here are some other highlights:
FEBRUARY 11, 2013 Pope Benedict XVI Resigns – first Papal resignation in over 600 years
Lightning Strikes Saint Peter's Dome – twice
MARCH 13, 2013 Jorge Mario Bergoglio becomes 'Pope Francis I'. He is the first Pope from the Jesuit Order, the first Pope from the Americas, and the first Pope who became a priest after Vatican II.
First words of Pope Francis on the balcony of St. Peter's Basilica 'Brothers and sisters, good evening. You all know that the duty of the Conclave was to give a bishop to Rome. It seems that my brother Cardinals have gone almost to the end of the world to get him…but here we are. '
Newly elected Pope Francis jokes with Cardinals who elected him saying 'May God forgive you for what you've done.' (NEW YORK POST)
MAY 22, 2013 Pope Francis Says Atheists Who Do Good Are Redeemed. 'We all have the duty to do good. For Atheists: Just do good and we'll find a meeting point' (REUTERS)
MARCH 5, 2014 'Pope Francis: Church Should Support Civil Unions' – Pope Francis suggested in a newspaper interview that it could support some types of civil unions saying 'We have to look at different cases and evaluate them in their variety.' (CNN)
MAY 13, 2014 Pope Francis says he would baptize aliens saying 'Who are we to close doors?' (THE INDEPENDENT)
JULY 27, 2014 Pope Francis gives his Top 10 List on how to be happy – doesn't mention Jesus once (NATIONAL CATHOLIC REPORTER)
SEPTEMBER 13, 2014 Pope Francis announces that World War III may have already begun (BBC)
OCTOBER 9, 2014 Pope Francis says 'But God does not exist: Do not be shocked! So God does not exist! There is the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, they are persons, they are not some vague idea in the clouds … This God spray does not exist! The three persons exist!' (VATICAN RADIO)
And this is only a few from the first few years. There is so much more. Those links above expose all of it. If you don't want to click on the link, you should google them. One caveat, the site is written by Catholics, but to me it may actually lend more credence if they see their own pope as the evil False Prophet.
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Post by yardstick on Feb 16, 2018 17:17:43 GMT -6
I’ve started this thread as a way for me to get my thoughts in order as well as share something I think is important. Please feel free to poke any holes in my observations/opinion. I’ve been thinking about this “Angel of Peace” medallion that the pope has given to a few world leaders. It was said in a couple of articles that he gives this medallion to world leaders and heads of state. I could only find four: March 27, 2014 pope gives USA President Barrack Obama the bronze angel of peace medallion. Pope Francis specified that the gift was actually a personal gesture from him, “from Jorge Bergoglio” (Popes real name). Why so personal with this medallion? (*Sept. 23, 2015 Pope gives Obama a different Medallion. It was the 2015 World Meeting of Families in Philadelphia) May 16, 2015 pope gives Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas the bronze angel of peace medallion. June 19, 2015 pope give Russian President Vladimir Putin the bronze angel of peace medallion. February 5, 2018 pope gives Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan the bronze angel of peace medallion. Other than the 2nd medallion given to Obama on Sept 23rd of 2015, I don’t see anything significant with those dates, but I’ll leave that to you number crunchers and constellation watchers to look into if you want. It has been bothering me that I cannot find a good image of it, like it is being deliberately concealed from us. It’s described as a bronze medallion showing an angel embracing the northern and southern hemispheres while overcoming a dragon that is appearing to split the earth in two. I am suspicious of this description. I read another description that sounded more like they were both close together and both had arms/wings wrapped around a split world. Could this be Satan and the Antichrist trying to unify and rule the world? It seems like a new world order medallion. One being given out by the pope. So, what is interesting is whom these have been given to. The first leader, Obama, we know holds anti-Israel/pro-muslim beliefs. He gave 100’s of millions to Iran (Persia) and basically gave them the go ahead with Nuclear development. The last three of those four leaders represent the prophesied nations lined up against Israel in Isaiah 17. I’ll go into this more later, but this gives a good starting point. You might consider that the pattern here is not of dates, but of people. If there are 7 heads and 10 horns, then isnt it possible that they are governments and individuals? See the G7 list on wikipedia for example. or use the search function for the analysis on the G7 in the threads. If a medallion goes to each of 10 people, or 7 people (as the case may be) to signify their 'chosen' status in the end times scenario; and if four are distributed already as of today, that would be an pretty clear 'clock', imho.
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Post by witness1 on Feb 16, 2018 17:51:39 GMT -6
I’ve started this thread as a way for me to get my thoughts in order as well as share something I think is important. Please feel free to poke any holes in my observations/opinion. I’ve been thinking about this “Angel of Peace” medallion that the pope has given to a few world leaders. It was said in a couple of articles that he gives this medallion to world leaders and heads of state. I could only find four: March 27, 2014 pope gives USA President Barrack Obama the bronze angel of peace medallion. Pope Francis specified that the gift was actually a personal gesture from him, “from Jorge Bergoglio” (Popes real name). Why so personal with this medallion? (*Sept. 23, 2015 Pope gives Obama a different Medallion. It was the 2015 World Meeting of Families in Philadelphia) May 16, 2015 pope gives Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas the bronze angel of peace medallion. June 19, 2015 pope give Russian President Vladimir Putin the bronze angel of peace medallion. February 5, 2018 pope gives Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan the bronze angel of peace medallion. Other than the 2nd medallion given to Obama on Sept 23rd of 2015, I don’t see anything significant with those dates, but I’ll leave that to you number crunchers and constellation watchers to look into if you want. It has been bothering me that I cannot find a good image of it, like it is being deliberately concealed from us. It’s described as a bronze medallion showing an angel embracing the northern and southern hemispheres while overcoming a dragon that is appearing to split the earth in two. I am suspicious of this description. I read another description that sounded more like they were both close together and both had arms/wings wrapped around a split world. Could this be Satan and the Antichrist trying to unify and rule the world? It seems like a new world order medallion. One being given out by the pope. So, what is interesting is whom these have been given to. The first leader, Obama, we know holds anti-Israel/pro-muslim beliefs. He gave 100’s of millions to Iran (Persia) and basically gave them the go ahead with Nuclear development. The last three of those four leaders represent the prophesied nations lined up against Israel in Isaiah 17. I’ll go into this more later, but this gives a good starting point. You might consider that the pattern here is not of dates, but of people. If there are 7 heads and 10 horns, then isnt it possible that they are governments and individuals? See the G7 list on wikipedia for example. or use the search function for the analysis on the G7 in the threads. If a medallion goes to each of 10 people, or 7 people (as the case may be) to signify their 'chosen' status in the end times scenario; and if four are distributed already as of today, that would be an pretty clear 'clock', imho. I was thinking the same thing. Wondering if 10 people from 7 countries will receive this medallion eventually. Hillary, etc.
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Post by witness1 on Feb 16, 2018 19:39:42 GMT -6
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Post by mike on Feb 16, 2018 19:47:49 GMT -6
I have never seen that witness1, wow
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