"For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received: that Christ died for our sins in accordance with the Scriptures, that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day in accordance with the Scriptures."
Post by dennislwatson on Nov 25, 2017 0:06:42 GMT -6
[FOR THE ENTIRE WATCHER COMMUNITY]
SPECULATION ON HEAVEN BY SOMEONE WHO JUST UNDERSTOOD THAT SONG OF SONGS 2 IS DESCRIBING HEAVEN, NOT EARTH. When, because I am tired and it is the end of the day, and I am old, I allow myself to think about Heaven and what Jesus has been doing since He ascended, was glorified and started building mansions. There has got to be a better way to invite people to actually think about Heaven. But here is what made me glad...That Jesus did not start building our mansions until AFTER He had spent time being a human. He has experience at it. He knows what a corruptible body can do and He knows now how to make an incorruptible body do it better. I mean, I am sure He tested stuff immediately. I mean this INCORRUPTIBLE HUMAN IN HEAVEN was new. He had to be testing that new Body out before He built stairways...Right? From His time walking around during the Roman Empire, He knows that some mansions are beautiful on a lake front. He knows other mansions are beautiful on a hilltop surrounded by grape vines, He knows others are beautiful only surrounded by amber waves of grain. He has seen the architectural prowess of Herod's builders. Do you get this? Heaven is going to be like earth in a way. Oh, now here is when I have to picture heaven like a flat plane. On the flat plane He has caused mountains to grow, and there is water, plenty of water and there are rivers that flow, and fish, and earth that actually sprouts plants that spread their scent wafting through the winds. No oceans though. Lakes yes (I mean over yonder is a lake of fire) but no oceans. Here is my point. We know that eye has not seen and ear has not heard...but what we are going to see will be amazing to our glorified eyes and Jesus will know how to make them work spectacularly. The sounds will be spectacular and hopefully without the constant tinnitus that drives me crazy. I know why Jesus designed His process of glorification so that He did not have to wait and become 65 on earth to do it. Hah! You don't think Jesus laughs? Ever? Anyway, I was reading Song of Songs 2 and it spoke of flowers growing from the earth. I know that there will be some who think that this means the earth, the globe earth, the blue marble. No! it means dirt! And I think there is dirt in Heaven because that is what the flowers are growing out of in Heaven and that is the exact picture that presents itself for the Groom and Bridegroom in Heaven, during the tribulation. Yes. Yes. The streets are made of gold and spending time in the city there will be plenty of gold to walk on...but dirt...Lord I want dirt around my mansion, please Lord.
I don't know if this resonates with anyone. Hope it does.
[This part is only for my FE friends]
What I described is just my speculation as to what is on the other side when we are raptured up through the firmament. It won't be a sea, a simple gold sheet, or any one thing. Jesus created this earth upon which we currently walk in 7 days (actually less ... things were ready for fish birds insects and man after 4 days). How long has He had to prepare this thing? Truly when I read Song of Songs 2 I found myself in heaven realizing that the words I was reading were describing something that I have not seen yet and I suddenly realized that when I do see it, my mind will go right back to Song of Solomon 2 and those words will be expanded to be descriptive of what I can not yet describe. The firmament is amazing. Don't need Psalm 19 to know that. It is strong! It divided the waters. It supports the throne room, it supports a city with gold streets, it supports the building area for the colossal New Jerusalem that has to have been going on for some time. It supports the sun moon and stars even the wandering stars. The other side surface of the firmament, I speculate, will be much like, in a three dimensional way, the surface of our earth. Why? Because the firmament goes all the way to the south pole. That is thousands of miles saints. I love the thought that there will be plenty of space (I mean flat space like we have now) to explore after we are raptured. Being FE makes more adjusted to what Heaven will be like. Of course there will be a remedial firmamentography class that ball earthers will need to take. It will only take a second and then we all be in one accord. That is the biggest miracle that God will perform at harvest at the end of Pentecost.}
Post by barbiosheepgirl on Nov 26, 2017 15:53:51 GMT -6
not only does the first earth pass away, but the first heaven...I don't see anything wrong with it at the moment...but perhaps the first heaven has to be changed to handle the new earth? Is it the heaven of our atmospere? or is the heavenly cosmos? or is it that dimension we are unable to see that will be changed?
For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ, 1 Thes 5:9 KJV
EnochWalked: www.pnas.org/content/early/2020/07/21/2002655117 "yields for wheat grown in indoor vertical farms under optimized growing conditions would be several hundred times higher than yields in the field". Farming would be weird if this became popular.
Aug 3, 2020 20:09:42 GMT -6
yardstick: Re: PNAS article: “A quart of wheat for a denarius, and three quarts of barley for a denarius, and do not waste the oil and wine.” Rev 6:6
Aug 3, 2020 22:12:48 GMT -6
yardstick: from the article: "...However, given the high energy costs for artificial lighting and capital costs, it is unlikely to be economically competitive with current market prices."
Aug 3, 2020 22:13:27 GMT -6
boymaker: Any thoughts about Hurricane Isaias/Isaiah?
Aug 4, 2020 0:21:20 GMT -6
Anon: Matthew 16:25 KJV 25For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it. I was thinking how applicable this will be during the time of tribulation.
Aug 4, 2020 15:17:35 GMT -6
EnochWalked: I'm hearing the explosive material was mostly ammonium nitrate (fertilizer?). "The chemicals were there for years found in an abandoned ship in the sea next to the port." Apparently the government was warned 6 months ago but didn't heed the warnings.
Aug 4, 2020 15:25:20 GMT -6
yardstick: not a nuke, but definitely a very large bomb. nuke clouds and shockwave dont disburse that quickly, plus there would be an EMP to knock out phone vid/electronics. not to mention the peeps taking vid would be dead from radiation
Aug 4, 2020 20:15:20 GMT -6
EnochWalked: "The explosion occurred three days before a U.N.-backed court is due to deliver a verdict in the trial of four suspects from ... Hezbollah over a 2005 bombing ... Hariri was killed by a huge truck bomb on the same waterfront". Weird timing.
Aug 4, 2020 21:59:53 GMT -6