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Post by schooldad3 on Jan 3, 2018 12:47:03 GMT -6
I think the man did a good job of teaching about elements of the sky. And I learned quite a bit. But I'm not sure what he is trying to explain in the prophetic sense; okay, we get what you say these elements are, now what does it mean? I guess I'm too thick-headed. Paul tells us that our gathering together unto him (the lord) will not occur until the man of sin has been revealed and the apostasy takes place. According to revelation 12:3-4 we are to be looking for a Babylonian component to the sign of the great red dragon. The earthly counter part ( the beast ) also has a Babylonian component. His body is made of the empires of Babylon, Persia, and Greece. NOT EUROPE OR THE POPE. In fact Babylon/Baghdad/Irag are in the middle of all three. Early eastern Christians of turkey, Syria, and Egypt, taught that the antichrist would come from the east. The reason for this thinking was the due to the ascendancy of Trinitarian doctrine in Constantinople and areas west and south. The Arian doctrine that denied that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh moved east to Babylon. It was understood very early on that 1 John 4:3 ( Jesus Christ is come in the flesh) is a statement regarding the resurrection of Christ. Clemet 95-140 A.D. 2nd Clemet 9:1-6 2 Clem. 9:1 And let not any one of you say that this flesh is not judged neither riseth again. Understand ye. In what were ye saved? In what did ye recover your sight? if ye were not in this flesh. We ought therefore to guard the flesh as a temple of God: for in like manner as ye were called in the flesh, (YE SHALL ALSO COME IN THE FLESH). If Christ the Lord who saved us, being first spirit, then became flesh, and so called us, in like manner also shall we in this flesh receive our reward. Let us therefore love one another, that we all may come unto the kingdom of God. The city of Baghdad was established as a counter part to Constantinople. The Hagia Sophia ( of Constantinople) was built as a monument to the victory of Trinitarians around 550 A.D. The dome of the rock was built as a counter part and literally has the doctrine of antichrist written right into it. As the new moons ( horns ) of the beast indicate a time frame to watch ( last horn/new moon ) the crowns of the beast ( full moon ) also tell us when to watch not necessarily for the rapture but more the rise of the beast WHOSE RISING IS A SIGN FOR THE RAPTURE. In particular a beast who rises out of the areas of the old Babylonian, Persian, and Greek empires. If we start with Nissan 1 2017 ( I am open to other dates ) ten horns takes all the way up 12/25/17. Ten crowns takes us thru 1/15/17. I am watching for the rise of the man of Sin. He will have revived an old empire ( ISLAM ). A second beast will also come to power with him. I used the think that the first beast was al Baghdadi of ISIS. But he seems to have been used as a proxy army to serve another's purpose. Erdogan of turkey seems a good fit thus far for the first beast and one of the leaders of Iran seems to fit the 2nd Beast.
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Post by brad on Jan 3, 2018 22:35:36 GMT -6
Yes...where is that elusive dragon?
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Post by bernie on Jan 4, 2018 13:22:47 GMT -6
I tried to watch the videos but only got through the 4th one. I'm not a very bright person, I have ADD and really struggle with science and math. I was just wondering if this series brought up any new watch dates, or if someone could give me the basic takeaway from it. I would love to know what this well taught series brought, but it's just too difficult for me to follow.
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Post by mike on Jan 4, 2018 13:28:36 GMT -6
bernie - on page 1 I asked for a "Table of contents" so to speak. that will help you a little. Given that each video is only a few minutes long you could watch them a couple at a time. I suppose you could skip the detail in the first 11 videos and just watch the last which summarizes the previous ones.
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Post by slim on Jan 4, 2018 19:18:53 GMT -6
Thanks schooldad3, I enjoyed the videos! Very informative.
I've heard many theories on the "great red dragon", but I've yet to see something that is "red". Why red? Strong's defines "red" G4450 as fire-like. So... a "great fiery dragon"? What is this?
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Post by barbiosheepgirl on Jan 5, 2018 3:20:48 GMT -6
bernie, let me take a stab at this and if schooldad wants to help me or correct me please please do..
what I got out of it was that the moon of ours has its own orbit "points" like a hula hoop as it goes around our planet. this hula hoop is egg shaped creating a specific location pf the moon within or between constellations for durations of hundreds of years.. He referred to these travel patterns as nodes. The "nodes" of the moon change over time and it is interesting that the moon began its existing location between pisces and aquarius. It will be in this location for the next 1000 years! There were previous postion that were significant when Christ walked as man..I can not remember where the moon was located in 33 AD, I just found it facsinating.
Then there is how our earth is angled toward the sun which allows us to see the other "dragons" constellations if you will. This changes as we go from summer to fall to wintr to spring (seasons). What I found super cool was his teaching on the 4 Corners of the earth. This has to do with the solstices and equinoxes of the seasons we call fall spring summer winter..that was a cool lesson for all the flat earthers out there, this lesson would be for you! They called that the 4 corners in ancient times!
He gave a history lesson on the Mazzaroth and how in ancient days it got corrupted. This lesson where he is just talking is hard to understand as he is reading for us, and it could use some editting and clean up to simplify his points. But still very interesting. This is where the info on Babylon comes in.
When Sept 23 alignment happened there is a super rare alignment with Jupiter, nibiru directly over the point of the Great Pyramid Giza. That alignment with the Rev 12 1-2 alignment are about impossible to have happened before or ever will. That there again gave me chills. and then this same alignment and where the moon will be sitting in regards to pisces and aquarius for the next Milleniel...that gave me chills.
And the last thing I got out of it is how the moon on a 27-29 day cycle is in a horn phase or a crown phase. Crescent shape is called horn phase, coming into or going out of full moon phase it is in crown phases. The Rev 12 1-2 of course had the moon in a horn phase. But the planets involved also have phases in our view like the moon. He told us which ones were in horn phases and counted them. Same with those in crown phases. I am not sure will have to watch again, but it played into the the heads (serpens, hydra and the third smaller dragon all being in heads view), and crowns and horns (phases of the planets and the moon) terminology of Rev ch 12. Simply fascinating. And where everything is NOW in the sky can only fit Rev 12 because of how our planet is tipped off axis and our own revolving around the sun and all the planets being above the horizon from a our perspective and these dragon constellations...stuff like that It is super technical, so I can see it being tough to follow and keep strait..
All it does in reemphasize Psalm 19 and Genesis 1... He said the astronomers and the evolutionists become at a crossroads with each other for the nature of this whole time piece of God! It is too miraculously timed to be an accident!
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Post by fitz on Jan 5, 2018 6:57:55 GMT -6
schooldad,
Very cool thread. Question on what you said about the AC. How would an orthodox Jew every accept Erdogan, or any Muslim as their Messiah? I've always thought the AC would have to be a European Jew for everything to work.
Thank you, Fitz
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Post by schooldad3 on Jan 5, 2018 9:56:05 GMT -6
schooldad, Very cool thread. Question on what you said about the AC. How would an orthodox Jew every accept Erdogan, or any Muslim as their Messiah? I've always thought the AC would have to be a European Jew for everything to work. Thank you, Fitz These questions can be dealt with but it requires us to adjust our thinking. There are a lot of well intended people out there operating under a bad paradigm. I plan on doing a series on the doctrine of antichrist and how it developed over time and what it looks like today. The series will take us thru the post exilic world of 520 B.C. to our current time. We need to understand the world the bible was written in and how that affects us to day.
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Post by schooldad3 on Jan 5, 2018 9:56:30 GMT -6
bernie, let me take a stab at this and if schooldad wants to help me or correct me please please do.. what I got out of it was that the moon of ours has its own orbit "points" like a hula hoop as it goes around our planet. this hula hoop is egg shaped creating a specific location pf the moon within or between constellations for durations of hundreds of years.. He referred to these travel patterns as nodes. The "nodes" of the moon change over time and it is interesting that the moon began its existing location between pisces and aquarius. It will be in this location for the next 1000 years! There were previous postion that were significant when Christ walked as man..I can not remember where the moon was located in 33 AD, I just found it facsinating. Then there is how our earth is angled toward the sun which allows us to see the other "dragons" constellations if you will. This changes as we go from summer to fall to wintr to spring (seasons). What I found super cool was his teaching on the 4 Corners of the earth. This has to do with the solstices and equinoxes of the seasons we call fall spring summer winter..that was a cool lesson for all the flat earthers out there, this lesson would be for you! They called that the 4 corners in ancient times! He gave a history lesson on the Mazzaroth and how in ancient days it got corrupted. This lesson where he is just talking is hard to understand as he is reading for us, and it could use some editting and clean up to simplify his points. But still very interesting. This is where the info on Babylon comes in. When Sept 23 alignment happened there is a super rare alignment with Jupiter, nibiru directly over the point of the Great Pyramid Giza. That alignment with the Rev 12 1-2 alignment are about impossible to have happened before or ever will. That there again gave me chills. and then this same alignment and where the moon will be sitting in regards to pisces and aquarius for the next Milleniel...that gave me chills. And the last thing I got out of it is how the moon on a 27-29 day cycle is in a horn phase or a crown phase. Crescent shape is called horn phase, coming into or going out of full moon phase it is in crown phases. The Rev 12 1-2 of course had the moon in a horn phase. But the planets involved also have phases in our view like the moon. He told us which ones were in horn phases and counted them. Same with those in crown phases. I am not sure will have to watch again, but it played into the the heads (serpens, hydra and the third smaller dragon all being in heads view), and crowns and horns (phases of the planets and the moon) terminology of Rev ch 12. Simply fascinating. And where everything is NOW in the sky can only fit Rev 12 because of how our planet is tipped off axis and our own revolving around the sun and all the planets being above the horizon from a our perspective and these dragon constellations...stuff like that It is super technical, so I can see it being tough to follow and keep strait.. All it does in reemphasize Psalm 19 and Genesis 1... He said the astronomers and the evolutionists become at a crossroads with each other for the nature of this whole time piece of God! It is too miraculously timed to be an accident!
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Post by schooldad3 on Jan 5, 2018 10:16:15 GMT -6
The eclipse of 8/21/17 was part of Saros cycle 145. It will move west from its current position and terminate at the south pole in 993 years. However currently the spring equinox is leaving Pisces. It will spend 1,000 in the transition phase and move into Aquarius around 3017 a.d. This transition phase may be the 1,000 year reign. I forgot to mention this in the last video. The ancients had a phrase that described the event of the spring equinox entering in to a new constellation. The reason for this is because the equinox is in a New Place in the Heavens and is at a New Place on the Earth. The phrase was " A new Heavens and A new Earth". The 1,000 year reign seems to be marked by transition from Pisces to Aquarius. This is revelation 20. Then we open up Chapter 21. I saw a New heaven and New Earth. Not only will there be a new constellation housing the spring equinox, the earth will have been restored to the pre fall state and the new Jerusalem will be completed.
Pleas call. It is so much easier for me a I have one hand that partially does not work. typing it hard for me. Xxx-xxx-xxx8
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Post by mike on Jan 5, 2018 10:48:30 GMT -6
School dad, not the best idea to give out your personal phone number on any forum... I'm editing
Please PM schooldad for his number of you would like to discuss
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Post by witness1 on Jan 5, 2018 11:22:25 GMT -6
schooldad, Very cool thread. Question on what you said about the AC. How would an orthodox Jew every accept Erdogan, or any Muslim as their Messiah? I've always thought the AC would have to be a European Jew for everything to work. Thank you, Fitz Amir addressed this briefly in his video about Europe being ready for the antichrist. He said Napolean was almost regarded as Messiah and a coin was made with his image. The entire video is fascinating, but he addresses this around the 53:00 mark.
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Post by fitz on Jan 5, 2018 11:45:13 GMT -6
schooldad, Very cool thread. Question on what you said about the AC. How would an orthodox Jew every accept Erdogan, or any Muslim as their Messiah? I've always thought the AC would have to be a European Jew for everything to work. Thank you, Fitz Amir addressed this briefly in his video about Europe being ready for the antichrist. He said Napolean was almost regarded as Messiah and a coin was made with his image. The entire video is fascinating, but he addresses this around the 53:00 mark. Thanks for this. So, it would seem the cause of "peace" will become more important/compelling than validating Jewish lineage.
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Post by witness1 on Jan 5, 2018 12:03:43 GMT -6
bernie, basically the idea is that a crescent moon is a "horn" and a moon of any other shape is a "crown". So the sign of the dragon spanned over 10 new moons to be the 10 horns which were from 3/29-12/25. In addition, planets can also be in either a horn phase or a crown phase, and all of the planets were in the "crown phase" in the Rev 12 sign. The crown phase is determined by which side of the sun the planet is on at the time. They also were seen above the ecliptic line, which is known as the area of the "dragon's head" (below is the "dragon's tail). The sun and moon were also there, which makes a total of 7 objects in the "head of the dragon" area, and all of them were in the crown phase (on Sept 18-19 before the new moon) to make "7 crowns." So, the dragon had 7 heads with 7 crowns and 10 horns at this time. He said the beast in Rev 13 has 10 crowns... if the moon being in a shape other than a crescent is a "crown" moon, then the 10th crown began on 12/26 (the last day of the crescent or horn) and will continue until the next new moon on 1/16. Thus he says the sign of the dragon/beast will complete on 1/15/18 with the completion of the 10th crown. This will signal the beast rising. schooldad3... this is all amazing! Thank you for putting this together and taking the time to teach it! This is the only explanation I've ever heard regarding the horns of the dragon, and the mathematics of all this is fascinating. Wondering if you could explain how you calculated the first horn of the dragon to begin on 3/29. Did that have to do with the Soros cycle? I got confused with that part and somehow missed the jump to how you knew it began on that date. Is it because this would make the 7th one in September? Also, any insight into the "red" part? Do you think it's important to understand why the dragon is said to be "red"? Thank you again for your time and this incredible presentation!
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Post by witness1 on Jan 5, 2018 12:05:02 GMT -6
fitz, yes, that was my takeaway. That rebuilding the temple is paramount to the Jews.
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