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Post by disciple4life on Apr 29, 2020 6:11:10 GMT -6
This was very interesting.
Today is the 72nd anniversary of Israel becoming a nation.
The guy talks about how far they have come in 72 years, and about how they long for and look for the 3rd temple.
At the exact moment I logged on to the site to post this the song came on the radio "We are Almost Home"
Just wow!
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Post by disciple4life on Aug 15, 2020 14:54:27 GMT -6
chohouston, domagb, Joecool, disciple4life, boraddict, kjs, This is very exciting, brothers and sisters. This clip was from June of 2020, and the big date when the red heifers are 2 years old, is coming fast, Sept 06, 2020. This is relevant because the actual plans for the 3rd temple are in place, all the ceremonial instruments are in place, including the high priest garments and the solid gold menorah. The temple institute is training young priests now, as we speak, to be able to do all the necessary things. The only thing that is lacking is the ashes of the red heifer, in order to do the cleansing ceremony. This is the first time in 2000 years that we have had a certified red heifer. The red heifers were inspected by experts from the Temple Institute, and certified 100% pure and were checked and confirmed again just a few months ago, when this video was released. They will be inspected one final time and the sacrifice will be made, and then, the ashes can be stored for years. "We will be ready to advance to the stage of actually preparing the ashes". We are seeing so so so many converging signs all around us. Strange extreme weather patterns - check Famine - check Lawlessness - check Apostasy and false teachers - check, Lovers of selves - Uhmmm, No doubt Pestilence [Plannedemic] check wars and rumors of wars check Earthquakes in diverse places check RFID, ID2020, micro-chip vaccine passport in place, check Nations rising against nations, check Israel budding as a fig tree, check When you see these things begin to happen, look up, because your redemption draws near. Disciple4life.
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Post by disciple4life on Aug 18, 2020 20:08:27 GMT -6
Hello my fellow watchmen!. In yet another coincidence in a growing string of coincidences, we not only have the red heifers which are about to turn 2 years old on September 06, for the first time in 2000 years, people in Israel are actually preparing showbread for use in the 3rd Temple. Yep! That's right. They're baking the bread. www.breakingisraelnews.com/154941/people-in-israel-are-preparing-show-bread-for-service-in-third-temple/Anyone who is still in denial and thinks it is symbolic or not a physical temple is sadly mistaken. Spoiler alert. The 3rd temple is not about us,[Gentiles] and its not for us. People who keep insisting ad nauseum that we are the temple are totally missing the point. The tribulation is the time of Jacob's trouble, - Jacob is Israel! The physical 3rd temple is a key part of Bible prophecy and some people naively think that if we all could just keep telling Christians that it's symbolic, that somehow this will keep prophetic events from happening how God said they would. Really??? This twisted rationale is like believing that if we just keep telling Christians that the Antichrist is a bad guy, or symbolic then maybe we can keep him from doing something bad. Jews believe the messiah is coming very soon! And He is!! Jews believe prophets wrote of a real third temple. And they did. Jews believe the third temple is so close, that they are already training real priests, from the line of Levi. They have the real instruments for the real sacrifice and the real gold menorah. They have the real plans for the real brick and mortar/ stone building. This year, they did a real sacrifice of a real lamb 3 days before Passover. I know that Christ is our high priest and I know he paid the atonement for the sins of the world on the cross. I also know that the 3rd temple means we are that much closer to the rapture, and the time of the Gentiles will be soon be over. Maranatha!! |
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Post by venge on Aug 22, 2020 6:32:04 GMT -6
Hello my fellow watchmen!. In yet another coincidence in a growing string of coincidences, we not only have the red heifers which are about to turn 2 years old on September 06, for the first time in 2000 years, people in Israel are actually preparing showbread for use in the 3rd Temple. Yep! That's right. They're baking the bread. www.breakingisraelnews.com/154941/people-in-israel-are-preparing-show-bread-for-service-in-third-temple/Anyone who is still in denial and thinks it is symbolic or not a physical temple is sadly mistaken. Spoiler alert. The 3rd temple is not about us,[Gentiles] and its not for us. People who keep insisting ad nauseum that we are the temple are totally missing the point. The tribulation is the time of Jacob's trouble, - Jacob is Israel! The physical 3rd temple is a key part of Bible prophecy and some people naively think that if we all could just keep telling Christians that it's symbolic, that somehow this will keep prophetic events from happening how God said they would. Really??? This twisted rationale is like believing that if we just keep telling Christians that the Antichrist is a bad guy, or symbolic then maybe we can keep him from doing something bad. Jews believe the messiah is coming very soon! And He is!! Jews believe prophets wrote of a real third temple. And they did. Jews believe the third temple is so close, that they are already training real priests, from the line of Levi. They have the real instruments for the real sacrifice and the real gold menorah. They have the real plans for the real brick and mortar/ stone building. This year, they did a real sacrifice of a real lamb 3 days before Passover. I know that Christ is our high priest and I know he paid the atonement for the sins of the world on the cross. I also know that the 3rd temple means we are that much closer to the rapture, and the time of the Gentiles will be soon be over. Maranatha!! , I suppose there are some members here (myself included) that fit this category of "sadly mistaken", "ad nauseum" and are "missing the point." which would invalidate a members opinion. But I know that everything written here was not meant to hurt members who believe differently and it was an accident because we don't want to break a rule to invalidate any member. No one ever said the Jews don't want a literal third temple. They always have. In wanting it, they will want to secure all the needed materials pertaining to old Testament text. Well, of course they don't have the ark, which is the seat and is needed... |
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Post by disciple4life on Aug 22, 2020 10:12:52 GMT -6
You are correct, sir, in that I don't want to invalidate other members. ;-) There are countless people, whom I don't know, but their views are put on You-Tube videos, and in the comments to videos, comments in articles on Unsealed home page, and social media from Twitter, to Facebook. There are also many well-meaning people who deny the rapture, sadly mistaken people who say and believe that the church replaces or supercedes all the specific commands and promises to Israel, and because they don't see Israel as a distinct people and nation, with a unique role in end times, this group of people are usually the ones who don't believe in a 3rd temple. I know a few people like this even in my home town and in Christian circles. Usually, the view comes with the statement that we are the temple, as if they are the first ones to make this connection, because they see the Temple as being about them/ about Christians. A person can believe what they want. This is a place where we share ideas, discuss and challenge each other in our thinking and the methods we use to come to our conclusions, and on some things, just agree to disagree. That's OK. How can a person see real, literal physical instruments, real, physical priest garments with genuine precious stones, and a real gold Menorrah, and there be a real Temple institute, which has real architectural plans, and a physical farm in Israel which raises the red heifer, and has experts physically inspect the real animal, to make sure that there is not a single white or non-red hair, and insist that the temple is symbolic, or not a literal brick and stone building. ?? It shows that the person is not at all aware of what the Jews think or what the Temple Institute thinks or what Benjamin Netanyahu thinks, or what prominent messianic Jewish teachers think, like Amir Tsarfati, Mark Biltz, or Jonathan Kohn, as well as many well-known Bible scholars from Jack Hibbs, to Perry Stone, to Jan Markel, to Max Lucado. The other thing - these experts who are Jewish and understand the Levitical Law requirements have everything in place that is needed, with the exception of the ashes of the red heifer, which can be sacrified when it turns 2, (assuming it still meets the strict requirements and no other non-red hairs are found.) Regarding the ark of the covenant, either they don't need it, or they have it.  Multiple sources confirm that they do indeed have it in a very secret location, which will be revealed only when the third temple is being built, or completed. We could see the red heifer sacrificed in as little as one month. Very very exciting. :-) We could see the surveying, pre-construction, and may even see construction begin, but we likely won't see it completed, because of the Ezekiel 38 war, and Rapture, but the fact that we seeing all the other elements, tells us just how close we are to the Harpazo event. Disciple4life |
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Post by bernie on Aug 22, 2020 11:09:50 GMT -6
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Post by mike on Aug 22, 2020 11:44:31 GMT -6
Had a thought on "seeing" the abomination
Word-studies
1492 eídō (oida) – properly, to see with physical eyes (cf. Ro 1:11), as it naturally bridges to the metaphorical sense: perceiving ("mentally seeing"). This is akin to the expressions: "I see what You mean"; "I see what you are saying."
BUT this only muddies it further for me.
ALSO If the abom of des takes place in the temple not made with hands, that would equate to believers as unbelievers are not the temple, are they? So (venge) help me 'see' this please if you understand what I mean and have an answer for that?
I cant cant imagine D4L, venge, me, etc. allowing an abomination to make desolate to occur in our hearts. Bur if the physical temple is not required and it takes place in people, how do I reconcile? Please help me with this
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Post by barbiosheepgirl on Aug 22, 2020 18:16:23 GMT -6
mike , thats just the thing. Look at what Jesus said here: 31Then Jesus said to them, “You will all fall away because of Me this night, for it is written, ‘I WILL STRIKE DOWN THE SHEPHERD, AND THE SHEEP OF THE FLOCK SHALL BE SCATTERED.’ 32“But after I have been raised, I will go ahead of you to Galilee.” 33But Peter said to Him, “Even though all may fall away because of You, I will never fall away.” 34Jesus said to him, “Truly I say to you that this very night, before a rooster crows, you will deny Me three times.”
could it be that the "apostacy", aka the "falling away" is the great denial? It says nothing about salvation, it just says apostacy. We do not know this until faced with it. who in this very crowd knows 100% they do not hold the son of perdition within their heart? Its about denying. Its about a slip of faith. BUT it is not about salvation. Did Peter go on to hell after he denied? do we really understand what Paul was saying to the thesalonians in the day...
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Post by Natalie on Aug 22, 2020 20:46:22 GMT -6
Matthew 24:15-16 When you see the abomination of desolation...then let those who are in Judea flee...
The Jews currently do not care about apostasy in the Christian church. They don't know the truth so how would they know a falling away? What would be the clue to flee? It's got to be a one time event that is visible and meaningful to those in Judea - something that says "leave now!"
And those with the Holy Spirit cannot have another spirit. How then would we have the son of perdition residing in us? I know 100% because He who is in me is greater than he who is in the world.
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Post by Natalie on Aug 22, 2020 20:57:07 GMT -6
I had another thought -- he's called the son of perdition or the man of lawlessness. That sounds more than just a denial or slip of faith - sounds like an outright rejection of Christ and all He stands for. Someone who is anti-Christ.
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Post by boraddict on Aug 22, 2020 21:04:25 GMT -6
I had another thought -- he's called the son of perdition or the man of lawlessness. That sounds more than just a denial or slip of faith - sounds like an outright rejection of Christ and all He stands for. Someone who is anti-Christ. Hitleresque - a modified version of Adolf Hitler, and much worse |
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Post by mike on Aug 23, 2020 5:33:02 GMT -6
BSG if what youre saying is that its each individual, it would happen at precisely the same time for everyone. This is a single event, not one where it happens today for you, tomorrow me, two weeks later D4L.
I have the Holy Spirit in my heart. Ive been sealed by God. At that moment, in the verse you quote Peter did not. Jesus hadnt been raised yet and though Peter believed he wasnt sealed like we are or he later would be
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Post by Natalie on Aug 23, 2020 7:51:20 GMT -6
I guess I am not understanding how (or maybe why) this is being spiritualized and applied to believers? He's called the "man" of lawlessness, "son" of perdition, and lawless "one". He comes by the activity of Satan "with all wicked deception for those who are perishing" (2 Thes 2:10) He's going to totally captivate unbelievers. And he's killed by Jesus when He comes. It's not called the spirit of lawlessness but a man -- although that spirit is at work, and we see it without a doubt in our world today. But who is it at work in? Not true believers. Sure seems like the literal interpretation is all that's needed to understand the passage otherwise the understanding seems to be getting missed.
If it's a literal man of lawlessness then it's a literal temple he is going to sit in. Not the temple of Allah or the temple of Buddha but the temple of God. The true God. It doesn't matter if God sanctions that temple or not, Satan wants the worship that belongs to God. The temple will be dedicated to God and so the center of worship by the Jews (God's people). It doesn't matter what we think of it. Satan is out to destroy them. What better way than to usurp God's place on earth and turn their worship from God to himself.
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Post by disciple4life on Aug 23, 2020 7:51:35 GMT -6
Matthew 24:15-16 When you see the abomination of desolation...then let those who are in Judea flee... The Jews currently do not care about apostasy in the Christian church. They don't know the truth so how would they know a falling away? What would be the clue to flee? It's got to be a one time event that is visible and meaningful to those in Judea - something that says "leave now!" And those with the Holy Spirit cannot have another spirit. How then would we have the son of perdition residing in us? I know 100% because He who is in me is greater than he who is in the world. Spot on, Natalie. "It's got to be a one time event that is visible and meaningful to those in Judea - something that says "leave now!" With the technology of Instagram, and Twitter, and Social media, and every smartphone a video camera, people around the world would be able to see the "recorded" event, but it raises another question. If this event of the Abomination of Desolation were actually not only seen with human eyes- thousands of actual eye-witnesses, let's just say that this event was somehow recorded, so that thousands would be able to see the "instant replay" on Instagram and social media. . . . [With the kind of ego of a guy who demands the whole world worship him, I'd say it will be broadcast live on dozens of stations worldwide. ] So they see some guy standing in some building, saying something odd, like Communist Brezhnov taking off his shoe and throwing it. Yeah, it would seem strange/weird/funny or unpolitical - but who would even recognize it for what it is, and the monumental spiritual and prophetic implications of it?? The only ones would be a small percentage of born again Christians/ people who search the scriptures and are awake- sheep dogs, but we will be strangely missing, so who's left?? A mind-numbingly smaller number - the spouses, siblings, and children of all the "Crazy Clara rapture kooks" who heard it, but rejected it as nonsense. Oh, by-the-way, has anyone seen Crazy Aunt Clara, or Ridiculous uncle Rapture Robert" - they are strangely gone. You're also right, that we can't have the Holy Spirit and the Anti-Christ. Christ himself even said that a house divided against itself cannot stand. All who are Christian have the Holy Spirit, so they couldn't have/ worship the Son of Perdition in their heart. But it raises yet another nagging question, that no one has been able to answer. Why would Israel even - form the Temple Institute,
- mint an actual coin,
- spend tens of thousands of dollars to train priests,
- Conduct DNA testing to make sure the priests are actually from the tribe of Levi
- make a huge gold menorah,
- and go to the trouble to breed red heifers, which takes years, monitor it, to make sure it was never used for work,
- inspect it multiple times by experts, who literally look it over from head to tail, looking for one white hair,
- and pay architects to design actual plans/ blueprints,
- perform an actual sacrifice with a real lamb on a huge stone alter, brought in on a flatbed trailer,
 -- all this work, time and money, -- all for a 'symbolic temple' ?? It defies explanation.
I am watching for Sept 06 with great excitement, and hope- the day that the heiffers turn 2 years old. Hoping that these candidates will not be disqualified - looking for the soon-after sacrifice. It's like a saying from end times teachers Gary Stearman, and J D Farag, **not sure who was the original person who made the statement- "The greatest thing about seeing Christmas Trees in the stores in October is that it tells you that Thanksgiving is just around the corner." Maranatha, |
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Post by mike on Aug 23, 2020 8:11:05 GMT -6
Natalie From my post I was trying to understand the same thing. If the abomination was spiritual, and believers are the temple, then it is the believer (each and every one of us) who commit the abomination. The entire body of Christ at the same time. Thats how I see it if this view is the correct one. What Im asking is those holding to that perspective please show me what they see that I do not.
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Multiple sources confirm that they do indeed have it in a very secret location, which will be revealed only when the third temple is being built, or completed. 
-- all this work, time and money, -- all for a 'symbolic temple' ?? It defies explanation.