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Post by davidjayjordan on Dec 6, 2017 7:23:55 GMT -6
Before I go, as we have to go back to our original mission field and before I get censured for differing with you on Revelation 12, and your Pre-Tribulation Rapture Interpretation and Timing, allow me to wish you ALL a MERRY CHRISTMAS..... and do it with some posts and timelines that will encourage your faith, that Jesus was in fact born at this time of year. I will have to be quick, so if interested in increasing your faith with the design of time (which is called true history and prophecy), back to the BEGINNING (Genesis 1) and Creation, then do consider this for your mind and soul, for the Lords birth time was not by accident but by design. Jesus was in fact born on December 25..... You surely will not accept the Design of geography, that we also can show, therefore lets stick to just TIMING and the Cycles of the Year..... and then relate it directly to Revelation 12 correctly. For as mentioned, I am a Creationist and Scientist as well as a Missionary for 50 some years.... and as a Creationist if there is anything you discover, its the design of Creation, and the cycles of life, the harmony, balance and mathematical, biological, chemical, miracles of life. The Lord created life and created our means of reproduction and created the conception to birth timing. ((Similarly, you also might consider realizing to the maximum, that men are not from Mars and women from Venus... we are the same, slightly different but the same and EQUAL. There is neither male nor female in Christ Jesus. One is not superior to the other, neither is one inferior to the other. Complimentary, both needed in conception, both needed for creating a body for the Lords new soul. Both sinned in the beginning, Women did not make men sin after the first sin. Both are guilty, both equally guilty.)) Both genders are equally guilty, both genders are sinners and both genders can be sinning saints by the Grace of God.)) Here we go... (( From.... www.davidjayjordan.com/WomansBirthTimeline.html ... but this timeline is not MINE, as we ALL have to learn to be humble enough to consider other brethrens work and research. My website got hacked and I have may have lost the original brother or sisters website.. Nevertheless lets give credit to this design discovery to them, and to the original birth cycle to the Lord, our Creator. On my website, all topics are hyperlinked with other articles to substaniate and proof further from different angles what has been stated... with more and more biological and scriptural proofs, as apparently you research every one of these hyperlinks and verses. There they are, just keep following the hyperlinks provided and the all the multitude of verses provided. GBY if you do)) ¶ And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars: And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered. And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born. And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne. (Revelation 12 : 1-5)
The first fulfillment of this being when the Lord's church via Mary, Jesus' mother gave birth to the Lord, and then Herod, the devil's king, tried to kill the baby Jesus. And yet the final fulfillment shall be us, again the Bride of Christ, that shall be with child right before the crowning of the End Time evil king, the Anti-Christ. We having been pregnant with offspring, with fruit maturing and ready to be delivered right at the Time of the Start of Tribulation. For when you take the cycles of a woman during pregnancy, it co-relates exactly to the Holy Days of the Lord's other physical Temple and its observances. Why because a woman is the greatest temple of the Lord and the mere building has to follow her cycles rather than the other way around. (SEE Lord's Temple is Human Body ) And it is all meant to bring forth new life, new souls into His Kingdom. For there will be no witnessing once the Great Tribulation has begun. This because the lines have been drawn and the Lord has sealed His servants the prophets and prophetesses of the End. These 144,000 Christians shall be Marked with His Seal and gathered together to exodus together en masse, under unified leadership til the very End and His Second Coming.
And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days. (Revelation 12: 6)
For then again, at that time, the evil king of the world, the Anti-Christ shall declare war on us, and persue us even as he did our fellow servants, Moses and the First Children of God.
And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child. And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent. And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood. And the Earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth. And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make WAR with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. (Revelation 12 ; 13-17)
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Post by davidjayjordan on Dec 6, 2017 7:48:41 GMT -6
So CLICK on the graphic timeline and first notice that it starts on the Equinox.... SPRING EQUINOX... the time of equal night and equal day time hours. The exact timing of the first days of 24 hour duration when the Lord set the Earths revolution speed (solar years) and revolution (24 hours) and the Moons revolution (28 days) and rotation or lack thereof...as it always faces the Earth.
Conception following the archetype would then be on the Spring Equinox in 4004 B.C. and then follow the holy day corelations right to Christmas time in December, and the darkest hour as Joseph and Mary searched for a place predestined and designed exactly for the Messiah's BIRTH... as a poor couples son even though Joseph was not the Lords Father. For what is the darkest hour, the longest night of the year.... December 21st the Winter Solstice... and 3.5 days brings us to December 25th.
(If you would only ask, you could find out this design.. ask and you shall receive if you can handle more DESIGN in geography... as nothing is or was created by accident, but the very continents, and places show DESIGN)
The harvest days are there, for the greatest harvest, the greatest birth was the birth of our King of Kings.. JESUS.
My website then states... this truth or these truths (ATS)... as I am not allowed to say IMO anymore....
For when you take the cycles of a woman during pregnancy, it co-relates exactly to the Holy Days of the Lord's other physical Temple and its observances. Why because a woman is the greatest temple of the Lord and the mere building has to follow her cycles rather than the other way around. (SEE Lord's Temple is Human Body ) And it is all meant to bring forth new life, new souls into His Kingdom. For there will be no witnessing once the Great Tribulation has begun. This because the lines have been drawn and the Lord has sealed His servants the prophets and prophetesses of the End. These 144,000 Christians shall be Marked with His Seal and gathered together to exodus together en masse, under unified leadership til the very End and His Second Coming.
The hyperlinks are in BLUE
If at our website, because this was written and posted about six years ago. It is not some new revelation, the cycles of the Lord have been around since the BEGINNING... (( and if you want to know and understand the template of our divine bodies, again just ask...))... And the corresponding 144000 Christians is there as well, the Mark of the Beast and our SECOND EXODUS, if you want to know the exciting and greater things us Christians are going to be doing HERE on Earth before the King of Kings comes to rescue us from the onslaughts of the enemy..... for I repeat most of us will die Hallelujah.. To live is Christ and to die is gain. !!
The webpage then ends with two more HYPERLINKS concerning this war against us, and how the Earth will be helping us... PG !
And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child. And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent. And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood. And the Earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth. And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make WAR with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. (Revelation 12 ; 13-17)
Did the Jews have the testimony of Jesus..NO, did the Jews keep the commandments of God NO, did our faithful ones keep the Lords commandments in trying to love others and sacrifice for others and go to the ends of the world til their deaths.. YES
Thats Revelation 12 and the great SIGN... Mary had Jesus the SON OF GOD at CHRISTMAS TIME according to holy day harvests TIMING.... and only us Christians realise the importance of this GREAT EVENT, so lets get out there and win more of our brethren at CHRISTMAS..
IJN
Amen ?
David
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Post by davidjayjordan on Dec 6, 2017 20:53:01 GMT -6
Darn, no one wished me a MERRY CHRISTMAS, even though I have attempted to show through the womens reproductive cycle, that December 25 is in fact the month and day of the Lords birth, and that He did get conceived by the Holy Ghost on the spring Equinox.
Anyway Joy to the world for the King of Kings was born and died for us all, Gentiles and Jews and Muslims, browns and reds and whites and yellows...
Cant pray for PEACE or getting Raptured, as we have soooo much work to do before we go... Amen
Merry Christmas..
It appears I must further proof the design of time and the design of distance and the design of the SPEED OF TIME. With more faith and knowledge about the Lords design, then maybe some might be interested in our own divine DESIGN of the human Body which absolutely proves we were created by God (Jesus)
David
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Post by sawdy on Dec 6, 2017 22:07:23 GMT -6
Merry Christmas. As a reader of much information on these boards since July of this year, I have begun to feel overwhelmed with the depth and sheer amount of information being posted. I used to "like" the majority of peoples posts if I agreed/understood them and would generally comment once per day on a topic of interest to me. I just really feel overwhelmed by the information being presented and I have never been the best at sitting through all the information and commenting. That is where I liked mike, cwood85, yardstick, tiffanybw and countless others who would put forth a comment to the harder topics that I couldn't feel comfortable commenting on because knowledge level is pretty basic comparably. Please don't take this as anything other than constructive criticism. Yardstick once had a math class thread that he would post in every few days. I was able to eventually get through the harder concepts presented in that thread because I had time to process the information in smaller amounts and could step away for a few days and come back to it. I would love to sit down and sift through all the information in all of your posts, the posts by Dennis and the ones by silentknight but my eyes keep glazing over and my brain isn't comprehending as well as I would like. My ADHD and the fact that Christmas is right around the corner (my to-do list keeps getting longer and I still have the majority of my Christmas Shopping list to complete) it keeping me from being the cheery post-reading and liking person that I would like to be. So once again, Merry Christmas.
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Post by cwood85 on Dec 6, 2017 22:49:16 GMT -6
Love ya sawdy and I hear ya loud and clear about the long threads and eyes glazing lol. The struggle is real! I am keeping my focus on @silentknight thread for now mainly. I pop in and read a little hear and there, but he's got my brain going about a thousand miles an hour right now with his thread (in a good way!) and I want to stay in that or as I am sure you understand get distracted by a squirrel or something... I am not very knowledgeable though lol. I try to understand and process some of these more intricate and extremely detailed threads and bits of information and I think my brain melts a little or as in yardstick post, smokes a bit lol!! 🤣 And for the title of this thread, can I say wow 😳 Merry Christmas everyone!!!
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Post by yardstick on Dec 6, 2017 23:46:05 GMT -6
Merry Christmas. As a reader of much information on these boards since July of this year, I have begun to feel overwhelmed with the depth and sheer amount of information being posted. I used to "like" the majority of peoples posts if I agreed/understood them and would generally comment once per day on a topic of interest to me. I just really feel overwhelmed by the information being presented and I have never been the best at sitting through all the information and commenting. That is where I liked mike , cwood85 , yardstick , tiffanybw and countless others who would put forth a comment to the harder topics that I couldn't feel comfortable commenting on because knowledge level is pretty basic comparably. Please don't take this as anything other than constructive criticism. Yardstick once had a math class thread that he would post in every few days. I was able to eventually get through the harder concepts presented in that thread because I had time to process the information in smaller amounts and could step away for a few days and come back to it. I would love to sit down and sift through all the information in all of your posts, the posts by Dennis and the ones by silentknight but my eyes keep glazing over and my brain isn't comprehending as well as I would like. My ADHD and the fact that Christmas is right around the corner (my to-do list keeps getting longer and I still have the majority of my Christmas Shopping list to complete) it keeping me from being the cheery post-reading and liking person that I would like to be. So once again, Merry Christmas. Thank you for the compliment about the math class. I felt when I was posting there that I was losing a lot of people's interest, so after a while, I just posted when I felt like it. I also felt like I glossed over the end because there is an amazing application of calculus applied to trig that is just beautiful to step through when you see what the movement of the rotating arms on the mechanism looks like mathematically.
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Post by mike on Dec 7, 2017 6:52:23 GMT -6
sawdy cwood85 dont you wish you had the brain of yardstick for about 30 seconds (maybe 29 seconds too much) just to think you could understand what applying calculus to trig actually means? would be how I felt if I could comprehend, my body would basic shut down EDIT-and I'll wish everyone a Merry Christmas albeit quite prematurely! See as a kid I was often robbed of birthday celebrations/presents being within the Thanksgiving to Christmas timeline. So for me Christmas season starts in about another week
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Post by davidjayjordan on Dec 7, 2017 7:28:09 GMT -6
Merry Christmas. As a reader of much information on these boards since July of this year, I have begun to feel overwhelmed with the depth and sheer amount of information being posted. I used to "like" the majority of peoples posts if I agreed/understood them and would generally comment once per day on a topic of interest to me. I just really feel overwhelmed by the information being presented and I have never been the best at sitting through all the information and commenting. That is where I liked mike , cwood85 , yardstick , tiffanybw and countless others who would put forth a comment to the harder topics that I couldn't feel comfortable commenting on because knowledge level is pretty basic comparably. Please don't take this as anything other than constructive criticism. Yardstick once had a math class thread that he would post in every few days. I was able to eventually get through the harder concepts presented in that thread because I had time to process the information in smaller amounts and could step away for a few days and come back to it. I would love to sit down and sift through all the information in all of your posts, the posts by Dennis and the ones by silentknight but my eyes keep glazing over and my brain isn't comprehending as well as I would like. My ADHD and the fact that Christmas is right around the corner (my to-do list keeps getting longer and I still have the majority of my Christmas Shopping list to complete) it keeping me from being the cheery post-reading and liking person that I would like to be. So once again, Merry Christmas. Thanks Sawdy and Merry Christmas to you and yours...... Knowledge is only one way of gaining more FAITH and more LOVE for Jesus. It is another PATH, as all PATHS lead to HIM (and HER.. thought Id throw that in as I am leaving soon, I mean we are leaving soon back to the mission field, and internet isnt so good there. Just ask about HER, or HER divine BODY and CYCLES if you like, because you know first hand as a female... a divine female made by the DIVINE HOLY FEMALE SPIRIT.) Experience and doing can be greater than the mind knowledge ...... BOTH together BOOM, BANG... more power to ya) GBY David
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Post by davidjayjordan on Dec 7, 2017 7:33:26 GMT -6
Merry Christmas. As a reader of much information on these boards since July of this year, I have begun to feel overwhelmed with the depth and sheer amount of information being posted. I used to "like" the majority of peoples posts if I agreed/understood them and would generally comment once per day on a topic of interest to me. I just really feel overwhelmed by the information being presented and I have never been the best at sitting through all the information and commenting. That is where I liked mike , cwood85 , yardstick , tiffanybw and countless others who would put forth a comment to the harder topics that I couldn't feel comfortable commenting on because knowledge level is pretty basic comparably. Please don't take this as anything other than constructive criticism. Yardstick once had a math class thread that he would post in every few days. I was able to eventually get through the harder concepts presented in that thread because I had time to process the information in smaller amounts and could step away for a few days and come back to it. I would love to sit down and sift through all the information in all of your posts, the posts by Dennis and the ones by silentknight but my eyes keep glazing over and my brain isn't comprehending as well as I would like. My ADHD and the fact that Christmas is right around the corner (my to-do list keeps getting longer and I still have the majority of my Christmas Shopping list to complete) it keeping me from being the cheery post-reading and liking person that I would like to be. So once again, Merry Christmas. Thank you for the compliment about the math class. I felt when I was posting there that I was losing a lot of people's interest, so after a while, I just posted when I felt like it. I also felt like I glossed over the end because there is an amazing application of calculus applied to trig that is just beautiful to step through when you see what the movement of the rotating arms on the mechanism looks like mathematically. Yard Stick, I hear you are a math type, so do the days add up, in the womans cycle or not. What say ye. Is her cycle exactly matching the cycles of the SUN and MOON (Rev 12) Do all the days time frames on my timeline match up on a day counter and correspond to Daniels exact numerous timeframes. For who created MATH but the Lord, and who created all of physics and all math equations and harmonies but the Lord. So seeing you know math, what say ye ? Does the womans cycle and Christmas and conception equate or Not. Hopin. g to hear from ya.... should be right along your YARDSTICK. Similarly check out the Math on my newest thread.... on Tiem, Speed and DISTANCES it involves a yard stick or should I say acres, and cubits and diameters and circled squares etc etc etc.. No one wanted to talk about where Jesus was born and its design so I posted that new thread Merry Christmas to you and yours, from me and mine
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Post by cwood85 on Dec 7, 2017 8:10:30 GMT -6
sawdy cwood85 dont you wish you had the brain of yardstick for about 30 seconds (maybe 29 seconds too much) just to think you could understand what applying calculus to trig actually means? would be how I felt if I could comprehend, my body would basic shut down EDIT-and I'll wish everyone a Merry Christmas albeit quite prematurely! See as a kid I was often robbed of birthday celebrations/presents being within the Thanksgiving to Christmas timeline. So for me Christmas season starts in about another week mike my birthday is on Christmas Day lol!!! Most of the time I forget my birthday in all the craziness of the season 😅
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Post by davidjayjordan on Dec 7, 2017 8:13:56 GMT -6
sawdy cwood85 dont you wish you had the brain of yardstick for about 30 seconds (maybe 29 seconds too much) just to think you could understand what applying calculus to trig actually means? would be how I felt if I could comprehend, my body would basic shut down EDIT-and I'll wish everyone a Merry Christmas albeit quite prematurely! See as a kid I was often robbed of birthday celebrations/presents being within the Thanksgiving to Christmas timeline. So for me Christmas season starts in about another week mike my birthday is on Christmas Day lol!!! Most of the time I forget my birthday in all the craziness of the season 😅 Cwood as a woman with the divinely created reproductive cycle from the Lord, what do you think about the prophetic cycle from Jesus conception to birth on December 25th
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Post by Natalie on Dec 7, 2017 8:35:34 GMT -6
cwood85 -- my birthday is two days after Christmas!
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Post by thetimeoftheend on Dec 7, 2017 8:45:40 GMT -6
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Post by davidjayjordan on Dec 7, 2017 9:30:58 GMT -6
Yes of course, do you think she is a he, and is the Comforter and Whisperer...
Do post your reasons for your interpretation, rather than trying to make me FIRST POST MINE.
Show me yours and I wil show you mine...
And hopefully you wont make it a one letter explanation IYKWIM.
And again time of the end, do repost my exact words and reference rather than being so loosely referencing my hints to you... it makes for a better discussion rather than making it to loose and open ended. Thanks
((Hows my tone, I hope I haven;t offended you in asking you to pleas please, compose your reasons FIRST. Nevertheless I frequested as always I will answer your question if you can not answer mine....))
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Post by mike on Dec 7, 2017 9:37:13 GMT -6
Although the moderators have tried to reason with David numerous times on a variety of items he persisted in stressing his views as the absolute truth and did not do so in love. As he has now violated all of our rules, he has been removed from the forum. Please continue to discuss items as you wish however the Bible does not teach that our God is female and we do not want that message carried forward. This thread will be locked.
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