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Post by butterfly5777 on Dec 5, 2017 21:04:45 GMT -6
Just saw article in Israeli Times that WH has confirmed plans to move the embassy to Jerusalem. Huge Sign!!! Trump to announce in USA at 1:00pm EST on Wed 12/6/17. WOW!!! Praise God for President Trump! Mike Pence traveling to Israel to speak to Knesset in 11 days! There's that number 11 again!! Going Home Soon!  Yipppeeeee!!!!! www.thetimesofisrael.com |
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Post by tygreen on Dec 6, 2017 11:03:21 GMT -6
I hope we’re going home soon. I just noticed something in the Rev 12 sign that encourages me yet gives me pause.
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Post by thetimeoftheend on Dec 6, 2017 11:21:54 GMT -6
I hope we’re going home soon. I just noticed something in the Rev 12 sign that encourages me yet gives me pause. Can you elaborate? |
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Post by mike on Dec 6, 2017 11:45:21 GMT -6
I hope we’re going home soon. I just noticed something in the Rev 12 sign that encourages me yet gives me pause. Can you elaborate? please? |
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Post by barbiosheepgirl on Dec 6, 2017 12:05:25 GMT -6
tygreen dont leave us hanging! My hubby just asked me this morning the significance of what is in the news today regarding Jerusalem. His ears are being opened to this stuff, folks!! Now if I can be more precise when I answer him...John Wayne fans may remember his line from a movie (the Cowboys maybe?): "I'd appreciate it ma'am if you would get to the point!" Can some weigh in on some thought processes here? I saw dialog in the shoutbox this morning (12/6/17). Some are mentioning Eze 38... I am thinking temple stuff
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Post by nana on Dec 6, 2017 12:10:06 GMT -6
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Post by nana on Dec 6, 2017 12:13:49 GMT -6
Eze 38 had been set up and now the US recognized Jerusalem as the Israeli Capitol.
Moving the US embassy to Jerusalem too.
Keep looking up
Titus 2:13 |
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Post by Natalie on Dec 6, 2017 12:14:45 GMT -6
Here is a reply I typed to someone on facebook on the significance. Maybe it will help?
"God says in 2 Kings 21:7 "...in the house of which the Lord said to David and to Solomon his son, "In this house, and in Jerusalem, which I have chosen out of all the tribes of Israel, I will put my name forever." And there are several other verses where God chose Jerusalem and put His name there. Zechariah 12's prophecy shows that Jerusalem will be a burdensome stone and a cup of trembling for all nations. And we see in the news such a tremendous focus on this small area of the world. If Satan can make Scripture untrue and make God out to be a liar, then he shows that God is not God. He tried by having the area renamed Palestine in 135AD, he tried by the Holocaust, he has tried through Replacement Theology, and by many other ways. If he could get rid of God's city, he would."
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Post by butterfly5777 on Dec 6, 2017 13:21:37 GMT -6
"I hope we’re going home soon. I just noticed something in the Rev 12 sign that encourages me yet gives me pause."
Please elaborate! Thank you.
I stand by my original post that I don't believe the Rev 12 sign is about the birth of the Church, but a sign that the 144K Jews, who will later become Christians and will be sealed with the Holy Spirit, are now ready to make an entrance on the world stage. This means the rapture is AT THE DOOR... LITERALLY!!! Trump recognizing Jerusalem as the capitol of Israel and promising to move the embassy there is HUGE!!!!!! The Parable of the Virgins is also in play as the timeframe of the use of "Oil" points to Hanukkah as does the emergence of the Two Witnesses who are "Candlesticks" and "Olive Trees"!!!
IT CAN'T BE LONG NOW!!! MARANATHA!!!
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Post by barbiosheepgirl on Dec 6, 2017 17:01:16 GMT -6
I had Mike Savage on TuneIn, had a guest host. Guest host asking the question to the audience if this recognizing of Jerusalem was a good thing or not. He stated that Savage stance is adamantly against it. Then calls came in. One guy just flat out upset that we would interfere over there, and another truly concerned about retaliations, and another going so far as to state how Israel doesn't even belong in the country at all...then one says it was supposed to have happened a long time ago, ie like in the 90's...
No one called in to say it was prophetic. If so they did not let them on the air...
just reporting on some of the hub bub out there..
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Post by davidjayjordan on Dec 6, 2017 20:18:13 GMT -6
Yes Praise God, the players and places are getting in place... not for the Lords Return or a Rapture prematurely but for the Covenant Signing.
Jerusalem or Egypt and Sodom as it is called in the End Time (Revelation 11) is the center of the action and the center of the world... (or Egypt and Sodom)
Moving the American embassy will cause trouble, because Jeruslaem is suppose to be a divided city shatred between the Jewish people and the Muslim people. They have a signed agreement and treaty concerning Jerusalem.
With the American move by an pro-Israeli American country, the Muslims will surely get upset and worried they will lose even more of their city to settlements, embassies etc etc... So surely they will be up in arms as their has to be trouble on the Mount. The Jewish High Priesthood needs a secure place for their 3rd Temple and they can not force it, they have to have 'THE COVENANT of DANIEL' to build their 3rd Temple.Hence there surely will trouble ahead..... TYJ.... It means the Mid East War will break out on several fronts, not just in Lebanon, the Golan, and into Syria, but also with the local MUSLIMS and CHRISTIANS in the refugee camp called GAZA. The war will be on numerous fronts all at once and takes a MASTER PLAN to stop the violence and appease all people and religions.. Settled and signed by TEN NATIONS. Hallelujah, the Covenant is COMING
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Post by thetimeoftheend on Dec 6, 2017 20:21:46 GMT -6
Yes Praise God, the players and places are getting in place... not for the Lords Return or a Rapture prematurely but for the Covenant Signing. Jerusalem or Egypt and Sodom as it is called in the End Time (Revelation 11) is the center of the action and the center of the world... (or Egypt and Sodom) Moving the American embassy will cause trouble, because Jeruslaem is suppose to be a divided city shatred between the Jewish people and the Muslim people. They have a signed agreement and treaty concerning Jerusalem. With the American move by an pro-Israeli American country, the Muslims will surely get upset and worried they will lose even more of their city to settlements, embassies etc etc... So surely they will be up in arms as their has to be trouble on the Mount. The Jewish High Priesthood needs a secure place for their 3rd Temple and they can not force it, they have to have 'THE COVENANT of DANIEL' to build their 3rd Temple.Hence there surely will trouble ahead..... TYJ.... It means the Mid East War will break out on several fronts, not just in Lebanon, the Golan, and into Syria, but also with the local MUSLIMS and CHRISTIANS in the refugee camp called GAZA. The war will be on numerous fronts all at once and takes a MASTER PLAN to stop the violence and appease all people and religions.. Settled and signed by TEN NATIONS. Hallelujah, the Covenant is COMING Out of sheer curiosity, why are you looking forward to the signing of the covenant? |
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Post by davidjayjordan on Dec 6, 2017 21:10:05 GMT -6
 Because that is the START of the Last 7 Years as stated so many times by Daniel... for then 7 Years later, we fighters for the Lord shall be Raptured, as well as all others... and then we shall party and feast and UNITE totally with our Bridegroom JESUS |
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Post by davidjayjordan on Dec 6, 2017 21:17:01 GMT -6
"I hope we’re going home soon. I just noticed something in the Rev 12 sign that encourages me yet gives me pause."
Please elaborate! Thank you. I stand by my original post that I don't believe the Rev 12 sign is about the birth of the Church, but a sign that the 144K Jews, who will later become Christians and will be sealed with the Holy Spirit, are now ready to make an entrance on the world stage. This means the rapture is AT THE DOOR... LITERALLY!!! Trump recognizing Jerusalem as the capitol of Israel and promising to move the embassy there is HUGE!!!!!! The Parable of the Virgins is also in play as the timeframe of the use of "Oil" points to Hanukkah as does the emergence of the Two Witnesses who are "Candlesticks" and "Olive Trees"!!! IT CAN'T BE LONG NOW!!! MARANATHA!!! Sis, can you elaborate on how these 144ooo Jews will become instant Christians all at once to fill the supposed gap when all the Christians of faith leave or are raptured all at once. Who will be witnessing to them or do they have special abilities and hidden abilities that will come out and change their minds all at once so they will become instant overnight believers, and inexperienced in faith and obedience all at once. Its a real question, that pre trib rapture folks dont seem to want to answer. Wow, you seem to think the church is Jewish people. I guess they might be called the Jewish Church according to yourselves, would I be correct in your labeling Just an honest question , as what changes for the Jewish people that instantly makes them get converted. is it in their special bloodlines or something. Did not the Gentile Christians have this special ability or life changing gene. I differ, so would love to hear you guys opinion or facts.... or scriptures Thanks Merry Christmas |
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Post by butterfly5777 on Dec 11, 2017 22:17:26 GMT -6
Sis, can you elaborate on how these 144ooo Jews will become instant Christians all at once to fill the supposed gap when all the Christians of faith leave or are raptured all at once. The 144K Jews will not become "instant Christians" once the Church Age comes to a close and the Children of God are raptured. They will be on the earth as young Jewish men who have not been defiled with women - therefore, single and virgin - who will be schooled in the Torah, Mishna, Talmud, etc. and all of the other Jewish books and history. They, along with others, will be "moved to jealousy" when the rapture occurs, the Christians are taken, and they are left behind. This is the way the Lord will begin to convict their hearts that He is God. Also, the Jews are currently paritally blind to allow the Gentiles to be grafted in. Once the rapture occurs, the blinders will come off, although their site may still be blurry. If we have the timing correct, and the rapture is in 2017, then in 20/20 they will have perfect vision when the AC sets himself up in the 3rd Temple claiming to be God - as this act will be an "abomination" to the Jews.Who will be witnessing to them The two witnesses will be witnessing to them from the Wailing Wall - as they will also be doing to the rest of the world. This will be broadcast everywhere due to television, radio, and internet technology.
These two men come from Heaven so they have perfect knowledge and the Most Holy Faith to perform their duty and complete their ministry. Although there is an ongoing dispute over who these men will be - I personally believe they are Enoch and Elijah. The reason for this stems from the fact that neither have ever died and Moses did die (Book of Jude - Michael arguing over the body of Moses with Satan). Jesus clearly states Elijah is one of them. If Enoch is not the other, this will mean he is the only OT person to ever walk the earth to never die - even beyond the Lord - which is a violation of Scripture.
The other "witness" the 144K will have, will be that of millions of people who choose to die for Christ and the faith rather than take the mark of the beast. This will be broadcast everywhere as the unsaved will rejoice over their deaths and this mass genocide will be glorified. (Similar to Nazi Germany.)
or do they have special abilities and hidden abilities that will come out and change their minds all at once so they will become instant overnight believers, They will elude the AC for the first 3.5 years of the Tribulation, while he is busy killing the Tribulation Saints. During this time, the 144K will likely be ministering to the Jews at the Temple similar to Nicodemus, Joseph of Arimathea, and Jairus, and/or they will be ministering to Jews worldwide. Once the two witnesses are murdered and their bodies lie in the streets for 3 days while people celebrate, give gifts, and make "merry" (a reference, I believe, to a Christmas timeframe), and are then taken up to Heaven, the 144K will be sealed with the Holy Spirit by God just before the 7th seal is opened and the Jews are persecuted. THEN, they will be BORN AGAIN, have the full knowledge and power of God, all of the puzzle pieces will fall into place for them, and they will proceed to fulfill their ministry for the remainder of the Great Tribulation. At the close of the Great Trib, they will be raptured to Heaven to the Mountain of the Lord, and will never experience the wrath of the AC. So, they will never die. and inexperienced in faith and obedience all at once. If we have the timeframe correct, and the rapture is any time now, seeing as though sometime between Nov 29, 2017-May 15, 2018 we will see the 70 year anniversary of the rebirth of the nation of Israel, and we aren't here for 3 more years (which is a possibility) - these men must be alive today and walking the earth. They must also be adults who are committed, educated Jews. So, they are not "inexperienced or uneducated" in the Law, which will be in effect once the Age of Grace comes to a close.
With a full foundation of the Law, added to all of the circumstances that have taken place (rapture, martyred Saints, and 2 witnesses dying), once the AC sets himself up in the Temple, it will be perfectly clear under the guidance of the HS that the AC is a fraud. This will turn them to Christ. And with the devotion and ferver that they lived as Jews they will also live as Messianic Jews evangelizing the remainder of the world - mainly Jews - as most Gentiles will be dead, if they have not taken the mark of the beast, or are living off the grid in some remote tribal existence (which is doubtful). Its a real question, that pre trib rapture folks dont seem to want to answer. I'm not sure why. Wow, you seem to think the church is Jewish people. No, I believe the majority of the Church are Gentiles who have been grafted into the fold while the Jewish people are partially blinded by God to allow for this. There are many Jews, however, beginning to accept the Lord. I see this as the Fig Tree putting forth leaves (buds) as the Lord indicated in the Gospels would occur just before His return. Those that do become Messianic Jews will be taken along with us.
I see the Parable of the 10 Virgins being a depiction of 2 groups of people worshipping "God". Both Christians and Jews believe they worship the "Father". We, however, know that without Christ, you do not have the Father. As Jesus said: "I AM: The Way, The Truth, and The Life. No one comes to the Father except through Me." In this parable - Jesus is the Way. The Holy Spirit is the Truth. And The Father is the Life. In the parable of the Virgins - 5 have the Holy Spirit or oil. Five do not. The five that do not are instructed to go and "buy" oil. This is a direct reference to Jesus rebuking the Jews for buying and selling in the Temple. Since the Holy Spirit can not be bought, the Bridegroom tells these unwise virgins to prepare since they do not know the hour of His coming - a reference to the 2nd Coming. Gentiles may also be in this category if they participate in church organizations where they think their sins can be forgiven by paying money for them (similar to the Catholic church which used to engage in the sale of indulgences). But, for the most part, I believe Jesus was speaking to a Jewish audience informing them some would accept Him and be taken (as they would receive the HS) and others would think they were worshipping "God" like the Pharisees (yet never get the Holy Spirit) and be left behind.
I guess they might be called the Jewish Church according to yourselves, would I be correct in your labeling No. See above.
Just an honest question , as what changes for the Jewish people that instantly makes them get converted. is it in their special bloodlines or something. Did not the Gentile Christians have this special ability or life changing gene. The Jewish People are the Chosen People. Jesus came to preach to the Lost House of Israel. Israel is the name of Jacob, Issac's son, and Abraham's grandson. These are the Patriarchs that go all the way back to the Beginning. Jesus is fulfulling the promise He made to Abraham. The purpose of the Tribulation is for the salvation of the Jewish nation - the Time of Jacob's Trouble. Because they rejected their Messiah, Jesus told them that He would make the gift of salvation available to everyone else. These would be people who would not reject Him or the fact that He is the Son of God. This opened "The Door" to Eternal Life for all of the Gentiles. This Door has been open for 2000 years, but it's about to close. Once it does, Jesus will turn His attention back to the Jewish people to save those who refuse to take the Mark of the Beast. Giving them one last opportunity to get saved - albeit during a very difficult time in human history. Mind you, multitudes will die and go to Hell, as only those who flee to Petra will make it through the last 3.5 years. Throughout the Millenium and on into Eternity, the majority of the population will be Jewish, whereas now, the minority are Jews.
I differ, so would love to hear you guys opinion or facts.... or scriptures Hope this answers your questions. If not, please let me know.Thanks Merry Christmas Thanks. You, too. Have a blessed Christmas! Read more: unsealed.boards.net/thread/1246/confirms-plan-move-embassy-jerusalem#ixzz510lAQkIw |
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