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Post by davidjayjordan on Dec 3, 2017 12:06:50 GMT -6
The basics of Daniel's exact time frames in days, is 1260, ,1290, 2300, 2555..putting these together with the exact events each denotes, means a timeline can be made and must include all of them to be exact. They bring about new time frames of 30, 45, and a holy day length of 10 days.... so do consider these in the following timeline Lets see if this works when displayed  |
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Post by davidjayjordan on Dec 3, 2017 12:09:01 GMT -6
It works, just click on the image and it expands.
Do note that knowing the basic Daniel timeline and LAST SEVEN YEARS helps..
GBY. If you have questions just ask.... as we are not in the dark that that day shall overtake us... cause we have things to do and places to go, and people and brethren to help before we go....
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Post by davidjayjordan on Dec 3, 2017 13:42:10 GMT -6
LEGEND
David Jay Jordan
Abom. of Desolations Mathew 24;15
A.C. (Anti-Christ) 2 Thessalonians 2:3-12, Rev 13
Battle of Armageddon Revelation 16:16, Ezekiel 38
Covenant Signed Daniel 9:27 Dan 11: 22-32
Flee into Wilderness Mathew 24:16, Rev 12:6
Great Tribulation Math 24: 29-31
Rapture (2nd Coming) Revelation 10:7, Math 24: 29-31
Sacrifice starts DANIEL 8 13:14
2 Witnesses Rev 11
3rd Jewish Temple 2 Thess 2
7 Trumpets Revelation 8, 9
7 Vials Revelation 16, 19
Wrath
Oh yes, if constructing your own timeline in your own opinion, do add one more exact time frame to your line... 1335 days. I forgot that one above... but its on the timeline...
And your start and end periods should also match the Lords lunar schedule and observed HOLY_DAYS... passover, Rosh Hannah, Day of Atonement etc...
ATB
IJN
David
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Post by daniel on Dec 3, 2017 15:29:35 GMT -6
Rapture == 2nd coming? No pretrib rapture?
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Post by Natalie on Dec 3, 2017 16:13:52 GMT -6
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Post by davidjayjordan on Dec 3, 2017 17:40:31 GMT -6
Rapture == 2nd coming? No pretrib rapture? The Rapture is there, on the timeline...1260 days after the abomination of desolations is set up.... Three and a half days after our Two Christian Witnesses are killed on the steps of the 3rd Temple...Revelation 11 Because no we dont get raptured prematurely, we have work to do and must follow til the end.... til the NEW BEGINNING. We follow our earthly spiritual leaders, the Two Prophets, candlesticks, pillars, olive trees, til the end. We are there, we wont miss the most important part of all world history. WE Christians are gathered in the Great Tribulation and obey the Lord (Mathew 24) and flee to Petra, where the Lord has the place prepared for us.. |
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Post by davidjayjordan on Dec 3, 2017 17:43:09 GMT -6
Thanks, I read them twice, and now again... Here they are... 1. No debating core doctrines of the Christian faith. If you are participating here you should be a committed Believer. Seekers and non-Christians are more than welcome also, but this is a forum that honors God's Word and therefore arguments against His Word aren't for this forum... questions are welcome though! For purposes of this forum, "core doctrines" are considered to be the historic tenets of Christianity: One self-existent God, the Trinity, the Incarnation, the virgin birth, the full deity of Christ, the substitutionary atonement, the literal and physical resurrection of Christ, salvation through faith alone in Christ alone, a literal and future bodily resurrection of the dead, and a historical-grammatical interpretation of Scripture. Premillennialism, a literal rapture of the Church to Heaven, and a literal/historical interpretation of Genesis 1-11 are also considered core doctrines. 2. No obscenity or racism of any kind. 3. Don't invalidate a fellow member's thoughts. It is ok to express a disagreement, but this shouldn't be done along the lines of "you're just wrong" or "if you believed the Bible than you would agree with me", etc. "But now you must put them all away: anger, wrath, malice, slander, and obscene talk from your mouth." - Colossians 3:8 "Let no corrupting talk come out of your mouths, but only such as is good for building up, as fits the occasion, that it may give grace to those who hear." - Ephesians 4:29 ...And finally: don't be afraid to express your thoughts! We want to hear what you have to say "while we wait for the blessed hope--the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ" - Titus 2:13 |
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Post by Natalie on Dec 3, 2017 18:03:34 GMT -6
Thanks, I read them twice, and now again... Here they are... No problem. I just want to make sure we are on the same page as I have noticed that you have some different interpretations than most around here. Be prepared to support where you are coming from.  |
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Post by davidjayjordan on Dec 3, 2017 18:54:31 GMT -6
So far, I have agreed almost totally with everything I have read, with very slight differences... but I think from further reading I know which doctrine or timing I will have to adhere to....
And Yes, I can defend that easily from scriptures, as we Christians have work to do and must follow the Lord to the end. Its exciting thrilling and what every Christian or Messainic believer has ever wanted to do...and we get that divine opportunity.
Onward Christian Soldiers...
PS) But a variance with other believers isnt the end of the world in my opinion and doesn't or shouldnt separate us, if some think they will be leaving early. Time will tell, lets just get HIS MESSAGE out now, while we have time.
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Post by Natalie on Dec 3, 2017 19:27:57 GMT -6
I answered you on your other post. I am interested in your timing of the second coming as being before the bowls/vials are poured out. It's one I haven't heard before. How do you come to that conclusion? |
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Post by yardstick on Dec 3, 2017 19:47:32 GMT -6
davidjayjordanI also answered you on the other post; and generally have an 'academic' request that you please explain the rationale behind what I will call a 'compressed' bowl/vial judgement time window in your timeline. I see in the timeline you posted it is only a few days. I think many who are pre-trib would probably consider an 'even distribution' of judgments through the 7 year time period. I suspect that even mid-trib or pre-wrath would also expect a chronologically even distribution of time between judgments in that judgement period. Thanks in advance.
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Post by davidjayjordan on Dec 3, 2017 23:18:38 GMT -6
I answered you on your other post. I am interested in your timing of the second coming as being before the bowls/vials are poured out. It's one I haven't heard before. How do you come to that conclusion? Natalie, the trumpets and vials are different. Timing wise and strength wise. We are part of the trumpets as our Two witnesses call them down on the AC world. He kills them on the steps of the Temple, and the Lord raptures all of us, 3.5 days later. The seventh trumpet is the RAPTURE, easy one to remember Revelation 10:7. Then comes the vials as we have ascended upwards in the Rapture, at the end of the Great Tribulation..... as that ends the Great Tribulation. Next comes the chronological WRATH period of 45 days A simple subtraction of the 1290 day count from the 1335 day count.... yielding 45 days. The last VIAL being the Battle of Armageddon, where we come down from the great Marriage Feast of the Lamb because we are the Bride and have been partying due to our Lords victory, and to finnish off the Feast, we ride down (Christos Angle, Regulus alignment thread) on white horses behind the WORD OF GOD (Jesus). WE are not around for the vial because we are the LAST 7th vial upon the wicked who have accepted the Mark of the Beast. (Rev...19) The Battle seemingly starting on Rosh Hannah, and finishing accordingly on the Day of Atonement.... Yom Kippur. Worst of times but the best of times, because all our brethren from all ages wanted to be living right NOW to be part of the greatest Exodus and greatest fight and greatest VICTORY. Onward Christian Soldiers.... we're ready. Forget the dam heathen, illuminati, and dark side, we're the victors because we follow the King of Kings and Lord of ALL. If wanting further verses , just ask for confirmations on a specific. |
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Post by davidjayjordan on Dec 3, 2017 23:20:35 GMT -6
Similarly it is explained as the 1st and 2nd harvest.
We are the first harvest, the first fruits... in August, the second harvest is the harvest of the wicked... ending on the Day of Atonement. That might help explain it as well according to the lunar holy day schedule of the Lord.
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Post by Natalie on Dec 4, 2017 8:30:17 GMT -6
I think I am following what you are saying though. Am I correct in that you see the rapture taking place half way through with the resurrection of the two witnesses?
The vials are poured out in Rev 16 and then the Second Coming is described in Rev 19. How do you then come to your conclusion? How do you see the 7th one as being the Battle of Armegeddon? Which Scripture backs that up?
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Post by davidjayjordan on Dec 4, 2017 8:49:22 GMT -6
davidjayjordan I also answered you on the other post; and generally have an 'academic' request that you please explain the rationale behind what I will call a 'compressed' bowl/vial judgement time window in your timeline. I see in the timeline you posted it is only a few days. I think many who are pre-trib would probably consider an 'even distribution' of judgments through the 7 year time period. I suspect that even mid-trib or pre-wrath would also expect a chronologically even distribution of time between judgments in that judgement period. Thanks in advance. Im not sure what the other post refers to..? ... As for the even distribution throughout the whole seven year period, allow me to isolate that important question on a new TOPIC. |
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