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Post by dennislwatson on Nov 24, 2017 13:41:35 GMT -6
2ND GREAT RESURRECTION SIGN UNSEALED REVISI....pdf (671.19 KB)(just updated with revision on December 4 updating end of Section B to add another point the Lord gave me today from 2 Kings 1) Another Look At Pentcost is a requirement Saints. I wanted to be able to post here so I just became a member a few minutes ago. I have loved the idea of the rapture being associated with Pentecost. I poured over the pdf by Tramm that you can search for under this title "DOES PENTECOST SUPPORT A PENTECOST RAPTURE", and the Book by Jack W. LangFord, "The Pentecostal Rapture of the Church of Jesus Christ". When Pentecost came this last June I was all in. I thought Pentecost in the great year of the Great Sign would be significant. I still believe it is but there is a mystery here. I continue to find this feast so exciting. The most important part of the Tramm article is in his conclusions at the end, "Is it possible that Christians who study the ancient festivals have been too quick in assuming Pentecost is fulfilled, making the feast next in line (Trumpets) the rapture feast?" I have to agree with Tramm. We assumed that Pentecost, when it was initiated in Acts 2, was fulfilled. It was not. It gets fulfilled ONLY WITH A HARVEST. It was the only FEAST that started a series of individual "divine appointments" with each and every saint who has become a part of the Church since its inception. So, when the rapture, the harvest of the church (including the 120 initially at Pentecost in Acts 2, every saint who has died after, and every saint who is alive today) occurs, that is when Pentecost will be fulfilled. And there is something fascinating about the Pentecost count in Leviticus 23:15, 16 that it took the GREAT RESURRECTION SIGN of September 23, 2017 to reveal. I will state the mystery here. "From the morrow after the 7th Sabbath, count 50 days." I have a 41 page article (2ND GREAT RESURRECTION SIGN OF SEPTEMBER 23, 2017) that I am trying to get published on fivedoves this next Sunday, that would be the 4th of December. I don't know if having just become a member here allows me to do something like that. My points are actually published as comments at the end of this unsealed article on Billy Graham. Sorry for all the deleted comments. When I wanted to word something different I added a new point and deleted the old one. Sorry about making a mess of the comment section. www.unsealed.org/2017/11/billy-graham-turns-99-and-other-news.htmlFriends, when the rapture occurs all saints will be in one accord. If my article does not help the watcher community to get closer to "one accord" then what I have said in my article and in the comments should just fade away. If, however, there are more confirmations, well, we will find out soon enough. When the rapture occurs, and when Pentecost is fulfilled (at the end of the Pentecost termination count), all saints will be 1) gathered, 2) in an upper room, 3) joyous, 4) in one accord, 5) speaking 1 universal language, 6) lit up and shiny. Martha tells us that this day will be the LAST DAY of something. Oh I just tried to post this and there was an "Add Attachment" button. Great, I will try to attach my pdf to it. Blessings Saints. Soon we rise and shine. (article updated 12/2/2017)
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Post by dennislwatson on Nov 24, 2017 14:48:00 GMT -6
Something to consider: 1. As people whose faith has been put in Christ, we are not under, or counted with, the Law; we are now counted with Christ. 2. Christ didn't ascend on Pentecost or any other Jewish holy day. PS - Read Song of Solomon. That book is about Christ's relationship with his bride, aka the wise and foolish virgins - the wise is in ch. 1-4, the foolish is in ch. 5-8. Remember also that the Jews (and perhaps some Gentiles) who didn't fill their lamps (i.e. believe on Christ) and get ready at this present age will be left to suffer the Tribulation (see SoS 5, where the bride is beaten by the watchmen) but will eventually cry out in faith to God, which will prompt the 2nd Coming (see Zechariah 13-14). There's some interesting statements in SoS 2:8-13, which seems to indicate a time: after the winter and the rains, when the flowers bloom, the turtledoves sing, the tender green figs come, and the grapevines start to give off an aroma. The bride is encouraged to "rise up and come away". From my research, this indicates a time, in Israel, of late April to early May - which happens to be generally when Ascension Day is. Not making any hard predictions, but something else to consider. Hello socalexile. Where did you exile to? I'm still there. I have been thinking of that Song of Songs Chapter 2 and concluded this in my point 5 of my "14 Reasons Why Watchers should keep their eyes on December 31, 2017" ... 5. Some have suggested that the rapture is a spring event (a beginning of Pentecost event) and thus use Song of Songs 2 to point out the spring-like conditions at the time the Groom is coming for the Bride. Read carefully every line of Song of Songs 2 and imagine this...the Bride is ALREADY in her mansion(s), and she is already and has been in heaven, the rapture is history, and it is always spring-like in heaven, and the Bridegroom is coming to take her on a “date” as He has done apparently many times before. I mean you have this guy looking through the windows and she is not upset! She is familiar with this process. Hah! That would not happen in the #metoo environment!!!! Song of Songs 2: Arise, my love, my fair one, and come away. If I had to conclude, and I could conclude wrongly, but this is not our rapture from earth. First off, I am not living in a place like that yet. This is a vision of what will likely happen OFTEN as we wait in our mansions (they which the Lord prepared for us) during the 7 years during the tribulation on earth and we continually will get to enjoy our relationship with Jesus before we return with Him to earth in Revelation 19. Understood like this, Song of Songs 2 is absolutely beautiful. Blessings Saints soon we rise and shine. socalexile. I just joined unsealed and saw you have A LOT of posts. Can't wait to take a look as time permits. |
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Post by dennislwatson on Nov 24, 2017 17:09:10 GMT -6
OK. So you are a Watcher engaged in watching and Scripture then points out something and you do a calculation and lo and behold, you think maybe that could be the day of the Rapture. You find it confirmed with other Scripture and so the day arrives...in Israel...at what point in the day do you go outside and lift your hands in the air and say, "I'm ready Lord." I've done this a couple of times I admit. I will be doing it again towards the end of the year. But, that only starts the question...what hour? THE DAY OF THE RAPTURE.pdf (38.93 KB) |
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Post by Natalie on Nov 24, 2017 17:58:46 GMT -6
OK. So you are a Watcher engaged in watching and Scripture then points out something and you do a calculation and lo and behold, you think maybe that could be the day of the Rapture. You find it confirmed with other Scripture and so the day arrives...in Israel...at what point in the day do you go outside and lift your hands in the air and say, "I'm ready Lord." I've done this a couple of times I admit. I will be doing it again towards the end of the year. But, that only starts the question...what hour? Dennis, I am glad that you got your account working and have joined us! I have not read your reasons for Dec 31 yet, but I did read your Day of the Rapture pdf. I had many of the same thoughts when we were waiting on Trumpets and throughout Sept 23. I still wonder at what hour will He come. I'm not sure if He is going to tell us, but I continue my watching.  |
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Post by witness1 on Nov 25, 2017 4:49:45 GMT -6
Dennis,
At first glance, this looks amazing! Will look forward to thinking and praying about this and see what the Lord does with it. Throughout the watch season, it always seemed that Pentecost needed to tie in somehow, and I think you've given a convincing argument as to how that could occur. How beautiful if this should come to pass! Thank you for your work and for sharing this!
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Post by witness1 on Nov 25, 2017 5:16:00 GMT -6
One of my favorite thoughts is that we will finally be in one accord. Truly in one accord... not a fake one-world religion. Because the disunity in the church, both corporate and my own, is heartbreaking. Satan has been whispering lies to me that there is no rapture because we can't be a multitude crying out in one voice when we are so broken... that we need to be tempered by fire and come together first. What a lie from the pit of hell! I love the parallel that Pentecost reversed Babel just like the rapture will.
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Post by dennislwatson on Nov 25, 2017 6:56:31 GMT -6
Dennis, At first glance, this looks amazing! Will look forward to thinking and praying about this and see what the Lord does with it. Throughout the watch season, it always seemed that Pentecost needed to tie in somehow, and I think you've given a convincing argument as to how that could occur. How beautiful if this should come to pass! Thank you for your work and for sharing this! Thanks witness1. Truly I only posted this a little more than a day ago. A few people have enjoyed it. Not so many as I thought though. I really wanted to post this here because I think the people who come to unsealed.org are a lot more prophetically minded than any other place. To post on youtube, not a lot of good commentators. As I indicated before, if it is of the Lord, it will become popular. If it fades away. Then that is my hint that God is protecting the Saints from simply another erroneous conclusion. HOWEVER I THINK IT IS A BLOCKBUSTER. Hah! There have been two GREAT SIGNS in history from which to start a count. One was the RESURRECTION of Jesus Christ. The other was the RESURRECTION SIGN of Revelation 12:1,2 occurring on September 23, 2017. When people see the count from the GREAT SIGN I think one must do exactly as you have suggested. I love your statement, "Will look forward to thinking and praying about this." Thanks. That is all a watcher can ask for. If you are reading this and wonder what in the world I am talking about, let me summarize a portion of the most important point 2 in my "14 Reasons Why Watchers Should Keep Their Eyes on December 31, 2017" "Read the verses in Leviticus 23:15 & 16 describing the count for Pentecost and see if the count I am suggesting could be applicable. 15 And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete: 16 Even unto the morrow after the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto the LORD. Apply those verses here because perhaps the Pentecost Season (after which no more new indwelt believers to make up the Church) will end at the end of this Biblical count: The Great Sign of Rev. 12:1,2 September 23, 2017 ALL SABBATHS: 1 The first Sabbath after - September 30, 2017 2 The second Sabbath - October 7, 2017 3 The third Sabbath - October 14, 2017 4 The fourth Sabbath - October 21, 2017 5 The fifth Sabbath - October 28, 2017 6 The sixth Sabbath - November 4, 2017 7 The seventh Sabbath - November 11, 2017 ALL SUNDAYS 1 The morrow after the seventh Sabbath - November 12, 2017 50 The day of the end of the 50 day count - December 31, 2017 Please do not be concerned that the end of Pentecost count (Day 50) will not occur on the same day (Day 1) in Acts 2 that beginning of Pentecost count started, or in the Spring season. It will end, after the GREAT RESURRECTION SIGN of September 23, 2017, when the church is COMPLETE ON DAY 50. That’s why Pentecost, in Acts 2 started on DAY 1. Day 1 was the beginning of the Church. Day 50 is the completion of the Church, now READY FOR HARVEST. And for those who conclude that the rapture can't be in winter because Song of Songs indicates spring like weather conditions. You need to read Point 5 in my "14 Reasons." Blessings Saints. Soon we rise and shine. |
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Post by dennislwatson on Nov 25, 2017 7:44:14 GMT -6
Natalie: I wrote it so that the summary of my points are in the first two pages of the 20 page Article. You can read the first two pages to determine if you want to wade through the points as I unpack them. So just look at the first two pages. You will see if you want to read it or not. Thanks for reading the other article also Deleted your duplicate post - Moderator |
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Post by dennislwatson on Nov 25, 2017 8:42:04 GMT -6
14 Reasons why Watchers should keep their eyes on December 31, 2017. Look for PENTECOST CONNECTED thread
I revised my article somewhat. And, changed the name of the pdf to the name of the title of the Article. Duhhh. Should have done that from the beginning. Blessings
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Post by barbiosheepgirl on Nov 25, 2017 10:07:38 GMT -6
Welcome Dennis! I just finished reading thru all the comments to Jeff's recent article on the home page, www.unsealed.org/2017/11/sharpening-our-focus-for-smooth.html, and I was most frustrated by the contributions by DJ. To be fair, there were some severe comments by pro-Sign folks, too, but DJ is typical of what I see pastors doing in regards to the great Sign. Some just will not validate it by agreeing with it, or giving it any credit. His argument that it is a sign that one could only see on a computer also bugged me and I was so close to replying, but those like DJ are not looking to try to understand us watchers, they seem to want to reprimand like a parent. In the forum here there are 3 rules of which to abide. It does not mean there aren't some good challenges to thoughts, but hopefully a better atmosphere here than in other forums. lo, I digressed from the topic of this thread... Tramm was my go-to place on FB to stay caught up on rapture education (no pun intended). I had already read the pdf file you linked about a Pentecostal rapture. I spent the better part of June with my face to the skies while out working the fields. Then the Great Sign was being talked about. I think this event set the clock so to speak. It is a marker, along with so many things (milestone anniversaries, lengths of times between both earthly and heavenly events, etc). Unsealed became my go-to place, and the folks here bring so much more Scripture to my attention than even the best Bibles studies I have ever done. Thanks sesquipedalian for reviving this thread as we linger into the winter season... |
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Post by dennislwatson on Nov 25, 2017 11:21:51 GMT -6
You said, "I think this event set the clock so to speak." That is my whole point!!!!!!!!! I did not mention this in my article, and I know you have already seen this, but the number of days from the September 28, Blood Moon to the day of the GREAT RESURRECTION SIGN of September 23, 2017 was...you remember....726. Of course that is Strongs G 726 - Harpadzo. I thought that meant the rapture perhaps was going to be on September 23, 2017. NO, RATHER IT WAS A SIGN AND WISDOM ABOUT THE STARTING OF THE TERMINATION OF PENTECOST COUNTDOWN CLOCK COUNTING DOWN TO THE RAPTURE. (Wow all in one 726!, hah!) I have to add perhaps. And I do with humility. Look I did not see this till last week. But look again at Leviticus 23:15 & 16. God knew that count would be looked at in the last days with the new knowledge of the Revelation 12 Sign. He knew. Come to think of that maybe I should add that to point #9 in my article. Blessings Saints. Soon we rise and shine. |
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Post by dennislwatson on Nov 25, 2017 12:02:18 GMT -6
I hope you don't mind barbiosheepgirl. I just modified my article "14 REASONS..." to add this to point #9... "May I make another point that I just now got from a discussion with a kind member on unsealed.org. She replied in her thinking about the September 23, 2017 GREAT RESURRECTION SIGN…"I think this event set the clock so to speak." Read more: unsealed.boards.net/thread/1210/another-pentecost?page=2#ixzz4zT1lnh00I replied, that is precisely my point. How many of you remember this? The number of days from the September 28, Blood Moon to the day of the GREAT RESURRECTION SIGN of September 23, 2017 was...you remember....726. Of course that is Strongs G 726 - Harpadzo. I thought at the time that that meant the rapture perhaps was going to be on September 23, 2017 (oh, not you really?) NO, RATHER IT WAS A SIGN AND WISDOM ABOUT THE STARTING OF THE TERMINATION OF PENTECOST COUNTDOWN CLOCK COUNTING DOWN TO THE RAPTURE. (Wow all in one 726!, Hah!) I have to add PERHAPS. And I do with humility. Look I did not see this till the week before Thanksgiving. But, look again at Leviticus 23:15 & 16. God knew that count would be looked at in the last days with the new knowledge of the Revelation 12 Sign. He knew. More Glory to God. Amen. (ohh it added the link to the comment? is that ok with you? I can take it out if you wish?) |
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Post by dennislwatson on Nov 25, 2017 21:06:57 GMT -6
Dennis, At first glance, this looks amazing! Will look forward to thinking and praying about this and see what the Lord does with it. Throughout the watch season, it always seemed that Pentecost needed to tie in somehow, and I think you've given a convincing argument as to how that could occur. How beautiful if this should come to pass! Thank you for your work and for sharing this! The test for whether this is actually accurate is to see if it resonates with Spirit-filled believers. If all were like you then I would know it was accurate. There have been a couple so far but not a ground swell. You know, I think the Holy Spirit really wants to go home too. And He wants to go home like Zamporini not that Olympic long jump skier that barely made it to the threshold. If the Holy Spirit sees something that resonates it will cause the believer to resonate also. Let's see what happens in a week or two. As for me, I have not been dissuaded as yet. Here is what I will soon hear..."This theory is not hermeneutically accurate!" Yeah, that's what I am expecting to hear. Oh well. Still, I do not think I will be deterred. Blessings and thanks for your encouragement witness1. Putting "A DATE" Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Up on unsealed.org is kind of ....idio.....craz....brav...dumb...unless...it....makes se Soon, in any event, yup, we will rise and shine. |
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Post by mike on Nov 25, 2017 21:53:36 GMT -6
dennislwatson nothing wrong with looking at things that may point us to a date. With the great sign we had a known event that lined up with scripture exactly, which was amazing. When our hope of going home didn't happen that day we started to look for things we missed, hoping to find something soon. We attempted to squeeze God into a date parameter that met our desire and calculation for leaving. Unfortunately God had/has other ideas for us. Personally speaking I have all but stopped date searching, and began watching for Him. I want to know Him, His character, His undeserved love for me much greater than. 2 months ago..I know some share this with me also. While looking at dates and numbers is fun, whether Dec 31st comes and we go or we do not, I will look at the day in no way different than I did today. Maybe we go, if we don't, more time for me to be molded to what He wants and share Him with others through my life
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2017 1:18:04 GMT -6
Amen to that mike! Thank you so much for your clear words. |
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