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Post by Gary on Nov 20, 2017 11:00:24 GMT -6
I apologize if this has already been posted, but check out this Dragon Sign theory floating around on YouTube. I've seen a number of theories, but this one seems to make a bit more sense and accounts for the 1. 7 heads, 2. 10 horns, 3. 7 crowns. The position of the dragon in relation to Virgo and the male child seems to possibly fit, too. It almost looks as if the dragon is perfectly positioned to devour the male child (Jupiter) just days before Jupiter enters God's Altar (Libra).
I'm not absolutely sold on this, but I can see how this might be a fit. Interesting also that several different people seem to have come to the same conclusion independently.
I hadn't spent much time thoroughly investigating the dragon's components in Rev. 12:3, but when I finally did something stood out to me: the text separates the horns from the heads - in other words, the horns could be on the dragon's back or tail and it would still fit the text. The only things that are explicitly located on the dragon's head are the diadems/crowns.
There is an interesting difference between the dragon in Rev. 12 and the beast in Rev. 13 that I hadn't noticed before: the dragon and beast both have 10 horns and 7 heads, however the dragon has 7 crowns on its heads and the beast has 10 crowns on its horns.
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Post by nana on Nov 20, 2017 14:12:37 GMT -6
The 17th is also the new moon, hidden moon.
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Post by thetimeoftheend on Nov 20, 2017 14:56:37 GMT -6
I apologize if this has already been posted, but check out this Dragon Sign theory floating around on YouTube. I've seen a number of theories, but this one seems to make a bit more sense and accounts for the 1. 7 heads, 2. 10 horns, 3. 7 crowns. The position of the dragon in relation to Virgo and the male child seems to possibly fit, too. It almost looks as if the dragon is perfectly positioned to devour the male child (Jupiter) just days before Jupiter enters God's Altar (Libra). I'm not absolutely sold on this, but I can see how this might be a fit. Interesting also that several different people seem to have come to the same conclusion independently. I hadn't spent much time thoroughly investigating the dragon's components in Rev. 12:3, but when I finally did something stood out to me: the text separates the horns from the heads - in other words, the horns could be on the dragon's back or tail and it would still fit the text. The only things that are explicitly located on the dragon's head are the diadems/crowns. There is an interesting difference between the dragon in Rev. 12 and the beast in Rev. 13 that I hadn't noticed before: the dragon and beast both have 10 horns and 7 heads, however the dragon has 7 crowns on its heads and the beast has 10 crowns on its horns. It's an exciting thought, though I am not sure I am sold right away either. Though, I do think I saw a bit of providence in that I was praying for wisdom for myself, but also Gary and others who have lead us, and immediately I was met with this post a few hours ago. |
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Post by klb on Nov 20, 2017 15:41:21 GMT -6
Very interesting! Would love to see paulwatchmandawson do a presentation of this as well. I believe he had done something similar about Michael wrestling with the dragon (Rev. 12:7). |
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Post by yardstick on Nov 20, 2017 16:49:38 GMT -6
Anyone know if there is a historical relationship between the jew's belief in the resurrection, and the temple?
What I am going for here, is an angle that would explain how the Jews could be jealous of a harpazo occurring on a feastday related to the 2nd temple dedication. So I am looking for a resurrection belief that corresponds to the Temple.
The horns being on the Dragon's back rather than on the Dragon's head makes sense, particularly if one is familiar with artistically depicted saurian representations/variations.
It's a good hypothesis, imho.
I notice in the video he has separated Apollyon and Abaddon, which Revelation calls the same. I also note that there is no 'translation' label for Venus.
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Post by socalexile on Nov 20, 2017 18:48:51 GMT -6
Seems like the guy is grabbing whatever is in the sky to make it "10 horns" - including stars, which also are heads. It's a stretch IMO.
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Post by yardstick on Nov 20, 2017 23:09:47 GMT -6
Seems like the guy is grabbing whatever is in the sky to make it "10 horns" - including stars, which also are heads. It's a stretch IMO. Well, there were 9 stars of leo out of the 12 needed to make a crown, so I see his logic. One thing I haven't seen is anyone explaining why a planet, sun, moon, et c. can represent one thing one time (in one sign), and something else the next time (in a different sign). It speaks of a lack of consistency. Lack of consistency is a red flag for me. |
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Post by tygreen on Nov 21, 2017 7:13:07 GMT -6
I do believe that in reference to the word “another” in Rev 12:3, may be referring to another constellation. I need to look more into this one. Simultaneously, the scene of Rev 12:5 on December 17th is that Jupiter is being pursued by Mars as Jupiter enters into throne room. A representation of the man- child being pursued by the red dragon just before the man-child gets caught up to God and to / into, His throne. Followed by a Jupiter Mars conjunction on January 6th 2018. I’m still looking forward to a 2017 harpazo. I’m more focused on Jupiter traveling to and through Libra because if we’ve correctly identified Libra as the throne room (based off Bullinger’s findings) this could be our representation of harpazo. Prayerfully manifested soon. 😊
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Post by Natalie on Nov 21, 2017 9:15:03 GMT -6
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Post by yardstick on Nov 21, 2017 11:46:16 GMT -6
I do believe that in reference to the word “another” in Rev 12:3, may be referring to another constellation. I need to look more into this one. Simultaneously, the scene of Rev 12:5 on December 17th is that Jupiter is being pursued by Mars as Jupiter enters into throne room. A representation of the man- child being pursued by the red dragon just before the man-child gets caught up to God and to / into, His throne. Followed by a Jupiter Mars conjunction on January 6th 2018. I’m still looking forward to a 2017 harpazo. I’m more focused on Jupiter traveling to and through Libra because if we’ve correctly identified Libra as the throne room (based off Bullinger’s findings) this could be our representation of harpazo. Prayerfully manifested soon. 😊 You may find this helpful: unsealed.boards.net/thread/107/find-dragon#ixzz4z5aLVVfa |
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Post by barbiosheepgirl on Dec 9, 2017 8:40:20 GMT -6
Right, Yardstick. socalexile was standing firm on the sign being in the heavens as opposed to a mataphor of an event on earth. I took a look at Stellarium this morning. It is interesting to jump forward and watch Mars appear to want to attack Jupiter. Someone likely will say, that the upcoming Mars/Jupiter conjunction is not rare. That Jupiter in Libra is normal. BUT, I say, The Great Sign, being the reference point to the start of Rev 12, anything happening at least over the course of 360 days from Sep 23rd, is connected to the Great Sign. meaning, if we are still here in a few years, anything to do with Jupiter is not connected per se to the Sep 23rd sign. I know, I know, no scriptures explaining how long we view astrological events as being connected to each other... anyone know how often 3 consecutive super moons happens? Certainly seems to me that the Lord is still wanting us to look at the story being played out up there! |
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Post by Natalie on Dec 9, 2017 9:29:50 GMT -6
Last year ended with three supermoons also, with one being the closest the moon gets this century. The only reason I remember that is because I took pictures of one of them while out at my mother-in-law's. She lives on the edge of a small town and had a great view. science.nasa.gov/news-articles/2016-ends-with-three-supermoons |
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Post by thetimeoftheend on Dec 9, 2017 12:15:58 GMT -6
I think the thing that sets this apart is that the final super moon is also an eclipse - a blood moon. It would be interesting to know just how often these circumstances coincide.
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Post by witness1 on Dec 9, 2017 13:34:39 GMT -6
It is also a blue moon, which happens every 2.5 years. So January 31 is a super blue blood moon. "Blue blood" jumped out at me... blue bloods are the wealthy elite. It made me think of the 6th seal: "Then the kings of the earth and the great ones and the generals and the rich and the powerful, and everyone, slave and free, hid themselves in the caves and among the rocks of the mountains, calling to the mountains and rocks, 'Fall on us and hide us from the face of him who is seated on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb, for the great day of their wrath has come, and who can stand?'" Rev 6:15-17
February is a "black moon" since there is not a full moon that month, and black moons are celebrated in witchcraft. A black moon only happens about every 20 years.
I haven't calculated the odds of all this, but I'd say they're slim.
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