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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2017 0:24:58 GMT -6
Just a few questions: What are the conclusions, you draw from these numbers? What conclusions do you think will others draw, i.e. unbelievers? Will you continue to be excited as now when these dates come and go like many others before? How does this affect your walk with Jesus? I also want to emphasize what socalexile and others said before: Not everything is for us to know (though it may be interesting) and be careful with your statements and your conclusions. Don't fuel numerology, fuel their love for Jesus. Always have in mind, that we as followers of Christ have a great responsibility even for the lots of guests visiting this forum. We all know from the bible from what Jesus said, that we are living in very late times now. We can see it very clear, when we look at Israel. I encourage you to share the gospel with unbelievers and point them to Jesus, not to numbers. |
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Post by krnboitae on Nov 21, 2017 2:26:06 GMT -6
Just a few questions: What are the conclusions, you draw from these numbers? After all these evidences, I believe rapture is on 12/31. (just too many coincidences and evidences I cannot deny)What conclusions do you think will others draw, i.e. unbelievers? If unbelievers see this, this will probably cause confusion. But they need to know that God exists and bible is true. So they don't end up in hell. They probably need gospel more than rapture stuff.Will you continue to be excited as now when these dates come and go like many others before? I wouldn't change even if this date come and go but so many evidences that point to 12/31 and this is not like other dates.How does this affect your walk with Jesus? It won't affect because he has shown me so much through this experience and I will live for him only whenever the end may be.I also want to emphasize what socalexile and others said before: Not everything is for us to know (though it may be interesting) and be careful with your statements and your conclusions. Don't fuel numerology, fuel their love for Jesus. OK
Always have in mind, that we as followers of Christ have a great responsibility even for the lots of guests visiting this forum. We all know from the bible from what Jesus said, that we are living in very late times now. We can see it very clear, when we look at Israel. I agreeI encourage you to share the gospel with unbelievers and point them to Jesus, not to numbers. I agree, they will be very confused. I just tell them about Jesus not rapture stuff. |
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Post by mike on Nov 21, 2017 21:17:14 GMT -6
Thank you socalexile for that exposition on salvation! As @stephan so put so well this (salvation is in Him) is what guests and lurkers need to focus their efforts on. Numbers are fun. Dates are to be watched, but Christ is all in all everyday. Thank you all who have participated. |
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Post by krnboitae on Nov 22, 2017 0:50:27 GMT -6
Thank you socalexile for that exposition on salvation! As @stephan so put so well this (salvation is in Him) is what guests and lurkers need to focus their efforts on. Numbers are fun. Dates are to be watched, but Christ is all in all everyday. Thank you all who have participated. Hi Mike. Yes all non believing guests and lurkers need to know that only faith in Jesus (he died for everyones sins on the cross and 3 days later ressurected) will lead to the God the father and to heaven. God gave us numbers to count and calculate. I dont really know numerology and never studied numerology. Only studied math in schools. I never used math in real life but finally in the end days I get to use math. Math was my favorite subject. (problem solving calculation, but not statistics) I feel like God is finally using my math skills for his purpose. |
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Post by krnboitae on Nov 22, 2017 9:28:23 GMT -6
1. Jupiter (church=male and female child) is born on 9/23 (Rev 12 Virgo sign)  2. Male child circumcised 8 days later on 10/1 (Las Vegas shooting) 3. Purifying for male child finished on 10/26 (Jupiter meets Sun, 33 days after 9/23) 4. Venus (Jesus, head of the church) in Virgo on 10/26 5. Venus is in exact same location of Virgo as Jupiter on Sep. 23rd on 11/5 (Texas church shooting) 6. Jupiter (Church, body of Christ) meets Venus (Jesus, head of the church) on 11/12 (Iraq earthquake) 7. Red dragon sign on 12/17 8. Venus (Jesus) comes right next to Saturn (Satan) and Jupiter enters Libra on 12/25 Christmas 9. Purifying for female child finished on 12/31 (Venus is about to meet the Sun in Sagittarius, the learned healer whose higher intelligence forms a bridge between Earth and Heaven, 66 days after 10/26) 10. Church raptured on 12/31 (Mars goes after Jupiter which is already in Libra, 99 days after 9/23) |
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Post by yardstick on Nov 22, 2017 13:06:03 GMT -6
krnboitae, if December 31 passes into January 1, 2018 and no harpazo occurs, what then?
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Post by krnboitae on Nov 22, 2017 18:01:47 GMT -6
krnboitae, if December 31 passes into January 1, 2018 and no harpazo occurs, what then? Then, simply I was wrong about the date. I really hope it is right. I dont want to ever lie. All evidence in the bible and coincidences are too confirming. I am a human and not perfect, could make a mistake. God is always right and perfect. So dont trust me but trust in God. |
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Post by mike on Nov 22, 2017 19:41:01 GMT -6
krnboitae, I do appreciate you bringing your math analysis here to the forum. I'd like to hear more about your thoughts and scripture studies. Perhaps being from a culture most of us aren't familiar with you know things we wouldn't and can help bring further understanding of certain areas of scripture. Also yardstick has a math class thread from a while back where I'd be interested to hear your thoughts since that is your area of training as well. (I believe things we excel at are part of God's plan to train us, raise us up to affect others for the Kingdom)
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Post by krnboitae on Nov 24, 2017 0:31:05 GMT -6
This is not my writing. Credit goes to Mr. Dennis Watson. He replied to one of the youtube videos. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fm58Z8QDF4)
What? Wow! We are close to being IN ONE ACCORD!!!
For my fellow saint BBG. Thank you so much for your efforts at looking around in this world. I do not have time to do this and I rely on your work in looking around and reporting the trends. Thank you. Your work in doing this is a blessing. It tells me that the return of our Lord to gather His church is near.
I hope you are right about the nearness of the rapture. Redemption calls to me and it resonates deep. Lord, please come anytime before the end of the year!" Amen.
However, I think God has a plan to bring Glory to Himself in His choice of the date for the rapture. When I consider a date that He might be looking at (as I see the day approaching Heb 10:25 and look for the hour Rev. 3:3) I want to see Glory in that day somehow. Essentially, I am just looking for the tree that has the most fruit on it. That day with the most fruit is a day I will look at and seek Scripture about.
So with that idea in mind may I show you a tree that I found and it has A LOT OF FRUIT?
Martha knew that her brother would rise on "the last day" and Jesus did not tell her something different. I search what makes it the last day and not the first day. Why the focus on the last day and not a focus on the incredible new beginning we are going to experience at the rapture?
THE LAST DAY
Pentecost started in Acts 2 and the effects of it have not ended as people are still becoming Christians. Pentecost ends with the rapture because after that, the group known as "The Church" becomes closed, no new members. Pentecost in Acts 2 was a picture, from the beginning of the church, of the end of the church: the rapture. The 120 disciples were 1) gathered, 2) in an upper room, 3) joyous, 4) in one accord, 5) speaking but one language, 6) lit up and shiny.
What would happen if we considered the September 23, 2017 Great Sign of Revelation 12:1,2 and FROM THE DATE OF THAT SIGN began a count TO THE END OF PENTECOST using the total count from Leviticus 23:15,16. Count 7 Sabbaths then on the next day, a Sunday, begin your count of days to 50.
Let’s do it right here…
ALL SABBATH DAYS
The Great Sign of Rev. 12:1,2 September 23, 2017
1 The first Sabbath after September 30, 2017
2 The second Sabbath October 7, 2017
3 The third Sabbath October 14, 2017
4. The fourth Sabbath October 21, 2017
5 The fifth Sabbath October 28, 2017
6 The sixth Sabbath November 4, 2017
7 The seventh Sabbath November 11, 2017
ALL SUNDAYS
1 The day after the seventh Sabbath November 12, 2017
50 The day of the end of the count December 31, 2017
Please do not be concerned that the end of Pentecost will not occur on the same day that Pentecost started. It will end when the church is COMPLETE (think 50).
I submit that when Martha told Jesus that she expected her dead brother Lazarus to rise "on the last day" I think it is possible that the LAST DAY was the last day of the Count. Right, Martha did not know this, but her words were inspired by the Holy Spirit who is very much attune to Pentecost.
CONCLUSIONS:
The last day of the count is also THE LAST DAY of December.
The last day of December is THE LAST DAY of the year 2017.
The last day might be Sunday, December 31, 2017. (a first day of the week rapture and resurrection)
12/31 - Count the digits its perfect. 7
12/31/2017 - Count the digits its the year. 17
When Pentecost (and the church) started NOT ALL OF THE COUNT was used. Only the 7 Sabbaths had passed and the disciples were gathered to wait it out BUT GOD CHOSE the first Sunday, the first day of the 50 day count to CONCEIVE THE CHURCH. The Church will be completed when the 50 (means completion) days have been counted from the morrow after the 7th Sabbath after the Great Sign.
Yes. Speculation. Not setting a date. If this is the date God has set so be it. If it is not the date then I am sure when the date occurs, it will be a breathtaking display of our Lord's sovereignty over sun, moon, stars, Scripture, Feasts, and Calendars of all kinds. You know, like the 12/31 date would be.
This follows a pattern from what happened when Pentecost occurred the first time.
First there was a Great Sign. That Great Sign was the resurrection of Jesus. Could that be the sign of the Son of Man?
Then the count was applied...7 Sabbaths then....
ON THE (1ST) FIRST (1ST) DAY OF THE 50 DAY COUNT...The SPIRIT CAME DOWN.
THE CHURCH STARTS ITS CONCEPTION PERIOD 50 DAYS AFTER RESURRECTION.
(wait nearly 2 thousand years until another PROPHESIED GREAT SIGN)
September 23, 2017, the date and year of the GREAT SIGN.
COUNT SEVEN SABBATHS, ON THE DAY AFTER, BEGIN COUNT TO FIFTY (50) AND THEN ON THE (50TH) FIFTIETH (50TH) DAY OF THE 50 DAY COUNT...The SPIRIT GOES UP and takes us with Him.
THE CHURCH IS COMPLETED AT THE 50 DAYS AFTER THE 7TH SABBATH
Blessings Saints. Perhaps soon we rise and shine. Even sooner if God wants to bring us home on either the 70th day (December 2 a Sabbath) after the Great Sign or the 77th day (December 9 a Sabbath) after the Great Sign. Those days have Glory associated with them too.
One other point. I know it is weird to think that God, who seems to only be thinking in terms of the Jewish calendar, would perform the work of the rapture on the LAST DAY of the Gregorian Calendar. I mean really why would God rapture on day 365? Why did God rapture (or translate) Enoch when he was 365 years old? Its a hint perhaps.
Oh and one other point. The eclipse of 8/21 figures in here because 33 days after the eclipse was the Revelation 12 sign. They are connected and that "33" was all over that eclipse including the fact that it was 33x3 (99) years since an eclipse like that had occurred. How many days after the September 23, Great Sign is December 31? That's right Saints, 99!!!!
Oh yeah, and one other point. Some have suggested that the rapture is a spring event (a beginning of Pentecost event) and thus use Song of Songs 2 to point out the spring-like conditions at the time the Groom is coming for the Bride. Read carefully every line of Song of Songs 2 and imagine this...the Bride is in her mansion(s) and she is already in heaven, the rapture is history, and it is always spring like in heaven, and the Bridegroom is coming to take her on a date. This is not the rapture, this is what will likely happen often as we wait the 7 years and we get to enjoy our relationship with Jesus.
Oh yes, and one other point. I submit that true Israel, immediately after the end of the year rapture, says the following perhaps on January 1, 2018... kind of without hope, Jeremiah 8:20 - "Summer is over, the harvest is past, and still we are not saved." In the Bible there are two seasons. Summer and Winter. Winter technically begins on solstice at 12/21. 10 days later Israel says, "Summer is over, the harvest is past (the rapture did not include us), and still we are not saved." What a sad statement. This will make Israel jealous.
Why would we count from the Great Sign of Revelation 12:1,2?
Because we counted from the other Great Sign of His and that was His Resurrection.
In Acts 2 the disciples gathered after the seven sabbaths and were going to grind out the count just as indicated in Leviticus 23:15 and 16. The disciples were waiting and God truncated the count on the FIRST SUNDAY (the next day) after the wait of 7 Sabbaths. There was no count to the remaining 49 of the 50 days although that day WAS in fact day 50 from the Resurrection.
Saints, I need you to understand something about these verses:
15 ‘You shall also count for yourselves from the day after the sabbath, from the day when you brought in the sheaf of the wave offering; there shall be seven complete sabbaths. 16 You shall count fifty days to the day after the seventh sabbath; then you shall present a new grain offering to the Lord.
In Acts 2, God stopped the count because at 7 Sabbaths and 1 day, because this was not the END of the Church but the conception of the Church.
Now, after a GREAT SIGN that has occurred in the heavens even indicating a birth, once again, those who love God are to begin the Count. The sign was on September 23, 2017.
So, this "new" revelation, always in the Bible but not taught gives us the END OF PENTECOST COUNT, a mystery till the Church came up, and perhaps a mystery until Daniel 12:4 is being fulfilled and new understandings are obtained as we go over and over the Book. The count for the BEGINNING OF PENTECOST is apparently different from the count to the END OF PENTECOST. We are to apply the count to the end of Pentecost FROM THE GREAT SIGN which is comparably as wondrous as the RESURRECTION...and it goes as set forth above.
Blessings Saints. Soon we may rise and shine. And I hope it is earlier if possible. If God's Glory can be magnified.
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Post by krnboitae on Nov 24, 2017 0:35:10 GMT -6
This is not my writing. Credit goes to Mr. Dennis Watson. He replied to one of the youtube videos. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fm58Z8QDF4)WOW! We again are close. It could be that last second of 2017, then the twinkling of an eye, then the first second of 2018 that we find ourselves being captured through the 2nd heaven, through the firmament and direct to the throne room. I pray the rapture is today. However, we need to follow the evidence. Here is a short summary of my 14 points Why Watchers should keep their eyes on December 31, 2017. I would be happy to send you the complete 15 page document where I unpack these points. These points are set out in some detail in comments (after November 21, the comments are in time order) at unsealed.org commenting on Billy Graham turning 99. Amazingly, 99 is an important number but not for the reasons in the article, look at the comments at the end of this article if you are interested. www.unsealed.org/2017/11/billy-graham-turns-99-and-other-news.htmlThis is a compilation of short summarys of my points. I have much more on each point in the comments mentioned and next week the full 15 page document will be published. So, Why should a Watcher be interested in December 31, 2017? 1) The hint from Enoch. He was raptured at his year 365. December 31, is day 365 of the GREAT YEAR OF 2017, the year of the GREAT SIGN OF SEPTEMBER 23, 2017. Day 365 could be the day of rapture. God anticipated and exercises authority over the Gregorian Calendar by choosing to rapture Enoch 600 when he had a life expectancy of maybe around 600 years. Why was Enoch taken at 365? Anyone? 2) Resurrection is a Sign - Apply Leviticus 23:15 & 16 to get to 1st day (inception) of Pentecost. Great Sign of September 23, 2017 is a sign. Apply termination count of Leviticus 23:15&16 to get to termination of Pentecost on December 31, 2017. 3) Martha told Jesus her brother would rise on the "last day." I submit the last day is the last day of new Christians being added to the church, also when Lazarus would rise, on the last day of December, the last day of 2017, the last day of the Pentecost count from September 23, 2017. 4) After rapture occurring at end of year, Israel will say, "Summer is over (the winter equinox was 10 days before), the harvest is past (the rapture just occurred), and still we are not saved. Jer 8:20. 5) Song of Songs 2 is not a picture of the rapture. It is a picture of what the bride's life will be like in heaven, spring-like, beautiful, and Jesus often comes to spend time with His bride. The rapture will be from winter on earth, to spring like conditions in Heaven. 6) Eclipse of 8/21 hits The Great Resurrection Sign of 9/23 after 33 days. 99 years since last eclipse. From the Great Resurrection Sign of 9/23 there will be 99 days to the end of the count on December 31, 2017. 7) 12/31 add digits "7"; 12/31/2017 add digits "14" 2x7; add digits of 14 and it is 5 = GRACE. Day 365 add digits it is "14" 2x7 and again add digits it is 5=GRACE. 8) New revelation (from going over and over the book as Daniel 12:4 suggests) we find two potential counts in the Pentecost count in Leviticus 23:15 & 16. One count for initiation of Pentecost. One count for termination of Pentecost, IN THE SAME LANGUAGE. 9) From Super Blood Moon of September 28, 2015 to December 31, 2017 is 826 days. Strongs Greek 826 augazo TO SHINE FORTH. That's what the Saints will do at the rapture. 10) Other videos support the idea of major change at end of 2017. Obamacare legislation currently requires installed chips as of December 31, 2017. updated from 2015 11) The inception of Pentecost started a process of individual Feast days, individual divine appointments, and at the end, at the termination of Pentecost, (which has its own different count) all Christians will be 1) gathered, 2) in an upper room, 3) joyous, 4) language of all understood, 5) in one accord, 6) lit up and shiny. 12) The Sabbath reading on December 30th, a Sabbath, is "AND HE LIVED" and the last of the reading is the last of Genesis 50 (50 is completion) where the bones of Joseph are RAISED AND TAKEN TO THE PROMISED LAND. The next day is December 31, 2017 when the Saints will be RAISED AND TAKEN TO THE PROMISED LAND. 13) God wants us to know the finish line. We cannot race like Paul says we should run the race because we should run to win. Running to win means you KNOW WHERE THE FINISH LINE IS. Jesus said Look Up so that you would see it. The start of the race is 9/23/2017 the end of the 99 day race is 12/31/2017. 14) Yes I am speculating. May this be the day. If it is not the day then we are looking for a day that will similarly display our Lord's sovereignty over sun, moon, stars, Scripture, Feasts, Calendars both Hebrew and Gregorian, nature, the plans of Satan and the hearts of men. You know, JUST LIKE THE DECEMBER 31, 2017 DATE WOULD HAVE BEEN HAD IT ACTUALLY BEEN THE DATE OF OUR GATHERING. Blessings Saints. Soon we rise and shine. Dennis L. Watson lawtrams@aol.com Blessings Saints. Soon we rise and shine.
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Post by dennislwatson on Nov 24, 2017 15:00:01 GMT -6
Events point to December 31. You Lets do math. We already know 10/01 + 91 = 12/31 11/5 + x = 12/31 x = 12/31 - 11/5 × = 56 So I looked for something that had 56. Is this that hard to understand? Of course I am not gonna use Age 26. I would advise you to be very careful here. This is the logical fallacy known as circular reasoning or assuming your own conclusion. You are certain that something must point to 12/31, so you cite evidence that points to 12/31 as "proof", and dismiss any evidence that does not point to 12/31. Your enthusiasm, desire to seek God, and desire to evangelize are all commendable! But be careful that, in your enthusiasm, you do not lead yourself astray. sesquipedalian and krnboitas - Much more about December 31, 2017 here. Blessings Saints. Soon whether this day or sooner or later, we rise and shine. |
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Post by dennislwatson on Nov 24, 2017 15:16:58 GMT -6
Curious to know if you've looked going back to the Great Eclipse in August? No I have not. Route 91 and AR 556 were only pointing to revelation virgo sign not the eclipse. kib I have a connection to the Great Eclipse in August. This connects to Great Resurrection Sign of 9/23. It is point # 6 in my "14 Reasons Why Watchers should keep an eye on December 31, 2017" attached. I will state that reason here. 6. The eclipse of 8/21 figures in here because 33 days after the Great American Eclipse was the Great Revelation Sign of Rev. 12. They are connected and that "33" was all over that eclipse (Oregon the 33rd state, leaving U.S. at 33rd parallel, etc) including the fact that it was 33x3 (99) years since an eclipse like that had occurred. How many days after the September 23, Great Sign is December 31? That's right Saints, 99!!!! Look at all the warning signs from September 23, 2017 that have already occurred! This was from another commenter on unsealed.org... unsealed.boards.net/thread/1201/rev-virgo-sign-days-warning I think we need to keep watch for every day that is a multiple of 11 as those days could portend disaster. 99 days before December 31 is the Great Sign. 77 days before December 31 there were the apocalyptic FIRES in Portugal. 44 days before the sign the Argentinian submarine with 44 sailors is lost. Keep your eyes open as we approach December 31, 2017. There may be other judgments coming up or identified. Further, we await a complete fulfillment Rev 12:3,4 although that may be at the same time as we go up. The dragon fights as the redeemed Saints pour through his territory and he is unable to stop it and he is cornered, thrown down and received by whatever sack of bones receives him to become antichrist. Rev 12:7,8 . Admit it Saints…there is just something about “99” that God is attracted to or knows that it can be teachable somehow. God approached Abraham when he was 99 years old about the some coming existence of his promised son, Isaac. And Saints, admit it, there are plenty of pictures about the birth of a promised son, the birth of a church associated by faith to Abraham and being called by the same Spirit that went and obtained a wife for Isaac and if so, you, Saint, because you have that Holy Spirit indwelling you, are unavoidably, associated with 99. I am speculating. I shouldn’t but just wondering. What is it about 99? Because it is evenly divisible by a trinitarian God? Divisible evenly by 3? Because when it is turned upside down the 66 is only divisible by two, six, eleven and 33 and these are not the best numbers and perhaps Lucifer hates that. Lucifer wants to add another 6 to that 66 number to be happy. And God knows it. So God uses 99? Hmmm. I wonder. If so, now I like 99! Blessings Saints. Soon we rise and shine. |
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Post by dennislwatson on Nov 24, 2017 15:20:03 GMT -6
oops ... double post
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Post by krnboitae on Nov 24, 2017 15:51:44 GMT -6
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Post by krnboitae on Nov 24, 2017 23:33:17 GMT -6
krnboitae , I do appreciate you bringing your math analysis here to the forum. I'd like to hear more about your thoughts and scripture studies. Perhaps being from a culture most of us aren't familiar with you know things we wouldn't and can help bring further understanding of certain areas of scripture. Also yardstick has a math class thread from a while back where I'd be interested to hear your thoughts since that is your area of training as well. (I believe things we excel at are part of God's plan to train us, raise us up to affect others for the Kingdom) I lived in US for 14 years! Went to middle, high school, and college in US. From 1998 to 2011. I honestly dont know about scriptures as much as pastors or some people on here. But I am really learning alot about bible in the last days. I couldnt find the math class thread. Anyways we dont have a lot of time left on this earth. I will try my best to live for God and evangelize until he comes. This is my thought! |
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