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Post by yardstick on Nov 15, 2017 20:22:43 GMT -6
kjs Thank you for bringing that up! I have wondered about the elect - is it us and are we here for some part of the delusion? Or is it those who are saved after the rapture? Isn't there a clause (qualifier) in that passage? "...were it possible..."
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Post by klb on Nov 15, 2017 21:41:52 GMT -6
yardstick Exactly - I’ve always hoped it wasn’t possible because we aren’t here!
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Post by yardstick on Nov 15, 2017 23:34:57 GMT -6
yardstick Exactly - I’ve always hoped it wasn’t possible because we aren’t here! Sure, but the Trib saints will be...
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Post by kjs on Nov 16, 2017 8:30:18 GMT -6
Actually there are several delusion passages....
2 Thessalonians 2 11 For this reason, God will send them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie. 12 Then all who have not believed the truth but have taken pleasure in unrighteousness will be condemned.
Matthew 24:24 For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.
Mark 13:22 For false messiahs and false prophets will rise up and perform signs and wonders so as to deceive, if possible, even God's chosen ones.
Now the 2 Thess 2 passage starts off 9 The coming of the lawless one will be accompanied by the power of Satan. He will use every kind of power, including miraculous signs, lying wonders, 10 and every type of evil to deceive....
So it does appear that 2 Thessalonians is tied into the other passages -- since they all point to "signs and wonders" that deceive. The primary difference being that in 2 Thessalonians the source of the "power" is specifically spelled out as being from Satan.
Now, the way Matt and Mark passages read -- the elect may be deceived for a bit of time; but they will not remain totally deceived.
So the question becomes -- when will this type of deception come?
If it is the "Lawless One" -- then yes, most of us believe the rapture has already occurred....
But if it is "generic" false messiahs and prophets -- then it is possible the rapture has not occurred.
Now, I hear already people grumbling these are "false prophets and Messiahs" -- not aliens ....
I say -- yep that is correct -- but who says the supposed alien would not be a false prophet?
After all is that not one evolution theory -- where "life was seeded upon earth from other planets"?
What better way to "start a new religion" -- than for a alien to say .... "we brought life here a million years ago".....
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Post by klb on Nov 16, 2017 9:01:31 GMT -6
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Post by nana on Nov 16, 2017 12:20:56 GMT -6
HAARP, Bluebook, CERN, holograms, satellites, MK Ultra, chips, chemtrails containing micro aluminum that will make the skies into a giant screen and so on. They, the deceivers have everything in place, waiting in the wings to for the AC to deceive.
Remember, satan can only mimic things, never creating things, he can only copy.
Forgot to add, wonder if this is why the Deagel Report has the US Population way down.
www.deagel.com/country/forecast.aspx
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