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Post by whatif on Apr 18, 2017 23:27:48 GMT -6
Greetings to all my brothers and sisters in Christ! I saw this interesting article regarding an investigation into the DNA of Jesus and had to share it with you. The investigators are hoping to use the DNA to identify modern-day descendants of Jesus. I actually do think it would be fascinating to study the DNA taken from the Shroud of Turin and the other artifacts mentioned in the article. Perhaps investigation might make discoveries related to the virgin birth! However... the motive behind the investigation is to find the Lord's descendants, and there lies a big problem. Jesus did not have descendants. I am wondering if we all might hear a big news report one day claiming a link to Jesus' DNA in whomever the antichrist ends up being. That would be a deception that much of the world would fall for, I think, as there is such a popular push to believe Jesus married and had children.
(Source: Jessilyn Justice, "Pastor, Scientist Now Searching for Jesus' Descendants," Charisma News: Breaking News, Spiritual Perspective, 18 April 2017)
www.charismanews.com/world/64337-pastor-scientist-now-searching-for-jesus-descendants
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Post by watchmanjim on Apr 19, 2017 6:45:02 GMT -6
Wow. Big topic. Can't comment at the moment, but there is a LOT to talk about here.
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Post by watchmanjim on Apr 19, 2017 7:46:34 GMT -6
First. The shroud of Turin is not something that can be verifiably traced to Jesus Christ. Analyzing the DNA of that blood does not guarantee that it is truly Jesus Christ's blood.
Second. From Scripture we know and understand Jesus Christ has no physical descendants. Any attempt to look for his descendants through his DNA is clearly a blasphemous attempt to discredit Scripture.
Third. Jesus Christ was conceived of the Holy Ghost. His DNA, half of it, would certainly come from Mary. The second half--we aren't told, but there are several possibilities how it may have worked. Ideas that allow for the virgin birth to still be true:
A. The thought that there is no second half to His DNA (seems ridiculous and impossible)
B. The thought that the second half of His DNA is just the male version of Mary's DNA
C. The thought that the Holy Spirit conceived Jesus supernaturally, but using Joseph's DNA (seems blasphemous)
D. The possibility that the second half of His DNA was a perfect set of undamaged human DNA, like Adam had.
I personally suspect (we have no proof) that it is D, or a close approximation. Christ is called the Second Adam.
I suspect that Christ's DNA was half Mary's, and half perfect DNA, which would be similar or identical to Adam's DNA, since Adam was the first and perfect man, before the genome began to be damaged by the effects of sin.
Now this has some serious ramifications to the question at hand. Going back to my original set of thoughts, with this new information:
Fourth: If Christ's DNA is the way I described (half identical to Adam's), and IF the blood on the Turin shroud were truly Christ's, then it would show a scientifically true, but factually false, conclusion that ALL human beings are patrilineally descended from Him. Such a finding, depending how it was presented to the public, could be grounds for some pretty stiff heresy, especially if the explanation I just presented were not explained to the public.
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Post by whatif on Apr 19, 2017 10:11:19 GMT -6
If Christ's DNA is the way I described (half identical to Adam's), and IF the blood on the Turin shroud were truly Christ's, then it would show a scientifically true, but factually false, conclusion that ALL human beings are patrilineally descended from Him. Such a finding, depending how it was presented to the public, could be grounds for some pretty stiff heresy, especially if the explanation I just presented were not explained to the public. Fascinating thought, watchmanjim! And I find it amazing that it is at this very time that this investigation is underway, just as we are quite possibly on the verge of the 7-year tribulation period. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2017 12:05:59 GMT -6
Or if the blood was somehow linked to the Shroud of Turin or some other source and the Antichrist's blood matched it then the Antichrist could claim to literally be Christ. He could say he rose again and just came back from heaven. There are a lot of interesting and creepy possibilities with this whole DNA thing. I think DNA and genetic science will play some big role in the tribulation.
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Post by whatif on Apr 19, 2017 12:28:01 GMT -6
Or if the blood was somehow linked to the Shroud of Turin or some other source and the Antichrist's blood matched it then the Antichrist could claim to literally be Christ. He could say he rose again and just came back from heaven. There are a lot of interesting and creepy possibilities with this whole DNA thing. I think DNA and genetic science will play some big role in the tribulation. I'm thinking the same thing, all4himtim! I'll be very interested in learning what comes of their investigation. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2017 12:52:24 GMT -6
Matthew 24 takes on a whole new significance in light of this discussion!!
So the disciples are warned not to believe the lie that the messiah is already here...when he really comes back it will be unmistakable.
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Post by whatif on Apr 19, 2017 13:11:30 GMT -6
Here's another possibility that just occurred to me: Could it be they will say the DNA shows a link to some kind of "alien" father and tie this in with the UFO deception?
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Post by watchmanjim on Apr 19, 2017 16:50:58 GMT -6
Quite possibly, whatif. If it is Christ's blood (and I can't say that it is or is not), any unusual characteristic from the "non-Mary half" could be used to point to alien patronage.
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Post by BrazenLaver on Apr 21, 2017 10:37:51 GMT -6
You might be interested in some research done by Dr. Joye Pugh. She has suggested that the shroud of Turin blood stains were used to create a twin over thirty years ago. Yes, it might sell some great books but the evil in the world today has been just as evil throughout time. drjoye.com/index.html |
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Post by BrazenLaver on Apr 21, 2017 10:42:44 GMT -6
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Post by whatif on Apr 21, 2017 10:55:00 GMT -6
Wow, BrazenLaver--even more possibilities if we consider the deception could involve cloning!
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Post by BrazenLaver on Apr 21, 2017 11:43:12 GMT -6
Trust me I didn't come up with this...but somebody either has a great tabloid article mind or an evil disgusting imagination. Maybe, sometimes something is so outrageous that the truth is never believed until its too late.  |
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Post by BrazenLaver on Apr 21, 2017 12:20:59 GMT -6
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Post by BrazenLaver on Apr 21, 2017 12:43:37 GMT -6
Can you just imagine how much Hoopla it will make if Pope Francis anoints and crowns "WILL I AM" as the new King Arthur?  |
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