What about the 11th hour?
Nov 6, 2017 22:33:34 GMT -6
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Post by sawdy on Nov 6, 2017 22:33:34 GMT -6
Hi all,
The other day I happened to be in desktop mode on my phone and I saw a discussion in the shoutbox about the 11th hour. Unfortunately, I was late to seeing what was discussed and some of the posts were already gone.
But I did catch something that intrigued me. The 11th hour isn't 11pm like we would think it is but is actually the last hour before the hour that the dawn begins to appear.
See torahcalendar.com/HOUR.asp
Idioms that we are used to hearing:
"The night is darkest just before the dawn." (The 11th hour is the last hour that is fully dark. The twilight begins in the 12th hour.)
"At the 11th hour" (https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/at+the+eleventh+hour)
1 Corinthians 15:52: in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.
So at the last possible moment, after the completion of the 11th hour, we have the twinkling of the eye. Another thread spoke to twinkling being he equivalent of twilight, which at the time was believed to be the twilight at sundown. Twilight also occurs at Sunrise.
"Twilight is the time between dawn and sunrise, or between sunset and dusk."- from: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twilight
In Matthew Chp 20, The parable of the vineyard, the workers that were hired at the 11th hour received the same pay. They only worked one hour.
"saying, 'These last men have worked only one hour, and you made them equal to us who have borne the burden and the heat of the day."- Matthew 20:12
We know that the parable is actually about salvation and not working in a vineyard. But if you take the time back from "the time of salvation being near" to the workers were in the actual 11th hour, we have twilight occurring in the morning, in the 12th hour.
I did a study on the Psalms of Ascent last year. I go to it often to reread. Tonight I was praying when I felt the desire to reread them again.
Psalm 130 is the psalm that matches my prayer tonight. I was definitely crying out once again. I have also been mulling over the 11th hour for the last day and then I read verse 5-6
"I wait for the LORD, my soul waits, And in His word I do hope. My soul WAITS for the Lord more than (THOSE WHO WATCH FOR THE MORNING)- I SAY, MORE THAN those who watch for the morning" (in brackets is my emphasis, outside of brackets is the emphasis in my Bible)
Right before the dawn it is dark. Sometimes the moon has already set. It is black and cold and it feels like the sun is never going to come. But it does. There is the faintest bit of colour that begins on the horizon. And it gets brighter and brighter until the sun does indeed come up. He is coming. The son is coming. He is the bright morning star.
All this time I feel we focused on the twilight in the evening. I think there is the possibility of the rapture happening at the morning twilight. Most of the Rev12 sign we have been observing are best viewed during the day, which has blocked our actual views of them. Could the rapture happen at the last possible moment, the 11th hour before the completion day of the jupiter/venus conjunction?
This is my first post of this kind (I am generally only an observer on these types of discussions) and I really can't defend/find more information to continue in my thoughts. I hope that whatever I missed in the shoutbox and whatever anyone else knows might be able to help my thoughts to make more sense to me. Thanks in advance for your contribution. 😀
The other day I happened to be in desktop mode on my phone and I saw a discussion in the shoutbox about the 11th hour. Unfortunately, I was late to seeing what was discussed and some of the posts were already gone.
But I did catch something that intrigued me. The 11th hour isn't 11pm like we would think it is but is actually the last hour before the hour that the dawn begins to appear.
See torahcalendar.com/HOUR.asp
Idioms that we are used to hearing:
"The night is darkest just before the dawn." (The 11th hour is the last hour that is fully dark. The twilight begins in the 12th hour.)
"At the 11th hour" (https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/at+the+eleventh+hour)
1 Corinthians 15:52: in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.
So at the last possible moment, after the completion of the 11th hour, we have the twinkling of the eye. Another thread spoke to twinkling being he equivalent of twilight, which at the time was believed to be the twilight at sundown. Twilight also occurs at Sunrise.
"Twilight is the time between dawn and sunrise, or between sunset and dusk."- from: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twilight
In Matthew Chp 20, The parable of the vineyard, the workers that were hired at the 11th hour received the same pay. They only worked one hour.
"saying, 'These last men have worked only one hour, and you made them equal to us who have borne the burden and the heat of the day."- Matthew 20:12
We know that the parable is actually about salvation and not working in a vineyard. But if you take the time back from "the time of salvation being near" to the workers were in the actual 11th hour, we have twilight occurring in the morning, in the 12th hour.
I did a study on the Psalms of Ascent last year. I go to it often to reread. Tonight I was praying when I felt the desire to reread them again.
Psalm 130 is the psalm that matches my prayer tonight. I was definitely crying out once again. I have also been mulling over the 11th hour for the last day and then I read verse 5-6
"I wait for the LORD, my soul waits, And in His word I do hope. My soul WAITS for the Lord more than (THOSE WHO WATCH FOR THE MORNING)- I SAY, MORE THAN those who watch for the morning" (in brackets is my emphasis, outside of brackets is the emphasis in my Bible)
Right before the dawn it is dark. Sometimes the moon has already set. It is black and cold and it feels like the sun is never going to come. But it does. There is the faintest bit of colour that begins on the horizon. And it gets brighter and brighter until the sun does indeed come up. He is coming. The son is coming. He is the bright morning star.
All this time I feel we focused on the twilight in the evening. I think there is the possibility of the rapture happening at the morning twilight. Most of the Rev12 sign we have been observing are best viewed during the day, which has blocked our actual views of them. Could the rapture happen at the last possible moment, the 11th hour before the completion day of the jupiter/venus conjunction?
This is my first post of this kind (I am generally only an observer on these types of discussions) and I really can't defend/find more information to continue in my thoughts. I hope that whatever I missed in the shoutbox and whatever anyone else knows might be able to help my thoughts to make more sense to me. Thanks in advance for your contribution. 😀
