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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2017 11:40:52 GMT -6
Has anyone else watched this video that was left in the comment section of Gary's new article? I thought it was very interesting. I had never heard of Vayera.
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Post by yardstick on Oct 17, 2017 12:09:03 GMT -6
Taken from a pre-trib standpoint, his Genesis 21:5 reference is speculative.
Also, his focus seems to be on the Woman, rather than the Child. If the child is the believing church, then shouldnt the focus, if one is trying to determine a harpazo date, be on the stuff related to the child?
The focus on the woman in Rev 12, IMHO would be to focus not on the harpazo, but on the beginning of the Tribulation.
One hypothesis might be the 33 days is how long it takes for the two Witnesses to select the 144,000. Or it might be for how long it takes between the time the two Witnesses begin, and the start of the Trib. Or it might be the window of time between the harpazo and the beginning of the Trib (Witnesses show up at the beginning, not before).
Also, by watching Stellarium to see when Jupiter exits virgo, the Woman would have given birth on approximately 10/13. Or at least, after 9/23. Not on it.
He may be conflating the second coming with the harpazo when he refers to 'and he appeared'. If the feasts will be fufilled by Christ as is Theorized, then it makes more sense for his 7 and 33 day expressions to refer to the second coming, than the harpazo; where the last 3 feasts are fulfilled in 2024, not 2017.
He does not specify what his source is for 'vayera'. at 6:23 on the vid there is a reference to Gen 1:22-24 and 2 Kgs 4:1-37. This 'vayera' word is not in the Genesis passage, and I cant find it in the 2 Kings passage either.
Now, could be right? Sure, possibly. But I see a lot of stuff that seems off with how he describes it; and that makes better sense when used as I described above.
I could go on, but started seeing even more questionable conclusions after the 12 minute mark. At that point I stopped watching.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2017 12:38:09 GMT -6
Ok - just wondering. I had never heard that term before so I was curious. Don't shoot the messenger! haha!
Also, I know that one of the RevelationChapter12 videos has Mercury being "birthed" from Virgo around that same time. Didn't know if that ties in at all?
I'm really new to all of this - not a new Christian but to some of the studies here. Thanks for the response.
Here is Paul's video.
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Post by yardstick on Oct 17, 2017 13:31:29 GMT -6
Ok - just wondering. I had never heard that term before so I was curious. Don't shoot the messenger! haha! Also, I know that one of the RevelationChapter12 videos has Mercury being "birthed" from Virgo around that same time. Didn't know if that ties in at all? I'm really new to all of this - not a new Christian but to some of the studies here. Thanks for the response. Here is Paul's video. I can promise you I am not going to shoot the messenger. The criticism is leveled at the video, not you. I promise :-) I hoped you would see what I was talking about, and the perspective I am adding to the video information. "Does the insight make sense to you?" is what I am going for. There is a LOT of collaboration on the boards here for people trying to learn the truth about the prophetic events that are beginning. Collaboration is good. It has been said here that we all have pieces of the puzzle and no one has the whole picture, but if we work together, we may be able to form the whole picture. Please join us! Use the search link at the top if you have a keyword you want to dig around about. It's a very useful feature.
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Post by nana on Oct 21, 2017 10:03:32 GMT -6
Just parking this here: Waiting for the new moon sighting report in Israel, should be soon, today. Just an interesting tidbit: Daylight savings time ends 2:00 am on Sunday Nov 5th in America. BUT. Daylight savings time ends in Israel Sunday Oct 29th at 2:00am. www.timeanddate.com/time/zone/israel/jerusalem. And if the calendar is off a month... torahcalendar.com/Linkpage.asp?D=30&P=2&M=3&S=0&R=0&H=0&U=0&F=0 This past Friday was Scripture Readings Noach, (Noah) Genesis 6:9-11:32. 10 days before Heshvan 10, the day Noah and his family were sealed in the Ark. This also could be Atonement if the calendar is off Today the Parashah is Noach which is the name of "Noah" which means "Rest." Today is Machar Chodesh which means "Tomorrow is the New Moon." torahcalendar.com/Linkpage.asp?D=30&P=2&M=3&S=0&R=0&H=0&U=0&F=0 This was for Friday to Sat in Israel, the new moon should be sighted tonight torahcalendar.com/Linkpage.asp?D=7&P=3&M=0&S=0&R=0&H=0&U=0&F=0 27-Oct, 2017 C.E. sundown to 28-Oct, 2017 C.E. sundown. Today the Parashah is Lekh Lekha which means "Go Out." As in go out to meet your bridegroom?
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Post by nana on Oct 21, 2017 17:44:55 GMT -6
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Post by dennislwatson on Nov 25, 2017 9:24:32 GMT -6
torahcalendar.com/Linkpage.asp?D=7&P=3&M=0&S=0&R=0&H=0&U=0&F=0 27-Oct, 2017 C.E. sundown to 28-Oct, 2017 C.E. sundown. Today the Parashah is Lekh Lekha which means "Go Out." As in go out to meet your bridegroom? Nana: I have wondered about the origins for these names for the Torah readings. Do you think it was Moses who gave us that? It would seem like it would be. For 40 years, each Sabbath the wandering children of Israel would have readings of the Torah, probably done by Moses himself. Maybe it was actually Moses who gave us those headings. In which case, maybe it was God speaking through Moses even in the named Torah readings and their titles that you can find in the calendar at torahcalendar.com. May I let you know of one such Torah Reading and title that I am very interested in coming up at the end of the year? Hope so cause I'm doing it right here. Bear with me... This is from my article, 14 Reasons Why Watchers Should Keep Their Eyes on December 31, 2017... "12. The Torah reading for the Sabbath of Saturday, December 30th, the DAY BEFORE December 31, 2017 includes the last four chapters of Genesis, ending with Genesis 50 (completion), and with Joseph’s bones being RAISED out of the ground of EGYPT to be TAKEN TO THE PROMISED LAND.
Hey Saints! Want to leave Egypt? It is with NEW FLESH AND BONE that RAPTURED SAINTS WILL "GO UP TO THE PROMISED LAND"
The Scripture Reading for this Sabbath is named Va-Yechi (And He Lived). AND HE LIVED!!!! Yes saints PERHAPS we will be born again to immortality and we will live on 12/31, if not then, later.
Thanks for the hint there though, Moses.
More Glory for God. Amen"If you would like to read other points you can read the first couple of pages and there is a summary. Then after page 2 I deal with the points in detail. Take a look at the summary and see if you wish to read the rest of the article. Thanks Nana.
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