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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2017 8:00:15 GMT -6
I remember that on the news about that alligator and I remember people were saying they never saw that before. Alligators look like dragons too.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2017 8:13:18 GMT -6
Jim, try this one
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Post by Gary on Apr 24, 2017 14:12:45 GMT -6
Interesting discussion on this article: www.unsealed.org/2017/04/the-day-and-hour-revealed.htmlBrazenLaver pointed out the darkness during the Exodus and the darkness during the crucifixion. Three days the first time, three hours the second. Both were way to long to be solar eclipses. Global Flood cataclysm --> 800 years --> Darkness in Exodus --> 1,500 years --> Darkness at crucifixion --> 2,000 years --> Darkness in Tribulation (Sixth seal) Perhaps there is some sort of object first encountered during Noah's Flood with a slowing orbital period. First 800 years, then 1,500 years, then 2,000 years. |
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Post by whatif on Apr 24, 2017 15:30:46 GMT -6
Gary and BrazenLaver, I just read through your article comments and have to say this is mind-blowing! Please, oh please, continue this fascinating discussion here!
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Post by watchmanjim on Apr 24, 2017 15:50:02 GMT -6
Remember that if a space object did cause these eclipse-like events, it does not necessarily HAVE to pass between the earth and the sun every time it comes around. Sometimes the position of the earth might be different such that the object comes through at a different location relative to the earth's location. IE, sometimes it might catch it in such a way that its' entry speed combines with earth's to make the encounter faster, and other times it subtracts with earth's speed to make it slower. Possibly sometimes it passes so far from earth that it isn't noticed, and does not come between the earth and the sun because the earth is on the other side of the sun from it. Especially if it has a really weird elliptical orbit.
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Post by barbiosheepgirl on Aug 15, 2017 13:09:38 GMT -6
Brad started this thread back in April...it will take me time to read all that was stated here in this long thread, but to rekindle this conversation, here is one thing I see about verse 3..
3. And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. kjv
It is not a great wonder, but just "another" wonder. John did not say "another great wonder"...so perhaps it is not a rare thing. Then the rest of the verse reads to me like how nations and kingdoms are described...but do keep in mind I know we are in the heavens...so it should be celestial, just like verses 1 and 2, yet it reads like other parts of Rev that sound like synonyms to heads of state, or leaders, etc..
Tossing this out there for comments..
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2017 13:15:11 GMT -6
BOSG - Have you seen this one yet - please forgive if I have (!)? I know that Brad has seen it. But it really IS the best explanation I have seen yet.
Especially now that we know that Saturn will be at the serpent bearer's foot on 9/4! And Jupiter close to it? Lots of attention is starting to be drawn to that sign! (starting at minute 10:30)
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Post by brad on Aug 15, 2017 14:59:51 GMT -6
Truthseeker is right!
Sam has the best well put together theory out there in my humble opinion.
First a downer… then I promise… an upper!
Maybe it’s not important, and this is truly the Dragon, but there are two problems I see is this theory:
The Downer first…
1- The Woman giving birth sign is extremely exact telling us precisely where the moon, sun and wandering planets will be... Normally they are not there, but on the 23d of September they all line up.
As Sam’s theory goes the 7 heads are the 7 stars of Serpins (they are always there... nothing unusual here), He further explains the 7 crowns are the seven stars of Corona Borealis... Same thing... they are always there...nothing unusual. The same with the tail of Serpin he counts the 5 stars of Serpins tail and then finally we start counting planets and the sun (5 of them) to complete the 10 horns. Most of the sign is Always there, and so to have the sun along with 4 other planets between Serpins, Scorpio, Libra and Virgo is Just not extremely rare.
2- When describing the Dragon in Revelation 12:3 there is absolutely no mention of The Sun, moon or the stars... All of which were specifically mentioned in Revelation 12:1 to describe the Woman. I think we all (myself included) have been hunting on Stellarium for a similar type of sign for the Dragon... With all of us looking and finding nothing , I think we might want to consider that this dragon sign is not going to be found by counting stars and planets...
And now the upper!
I still have trouble just writing off Sam’s work… it seems to fit so much of the sign…
1- The serpent is visually standing at the foot of Virgo!
2- Saturn will complete a triple conjunction at the base of Ophiuchus.
3- The serpent has the Visual of Corona Borealis (7 star crown) above his head.
4- It spans 1/3 of the sky (approx.)
Can I throw a wrench in the works? One path I went down went like this.
Fiery Red Dragon: (The Sun… ask any child what’s Fiery red in the sky) At the rapture, Satan steels this identity (light of the world) from Jesus and will claim to be the true light of the world.
7 Heads: Many possibilities here!
1- The 7 planets… all with false crowns because they all have the name of a pagan god.
2- This could be a seven year time marker as the Sun returns to Virgo’s Head every year for 7 years marking the timeline for the tribulation. This would also make sense because Satan would be steeling the royal crown of Leo’s 9 stars (without the additional 3 on this September 23)
3- Saturn itself could be every one of the seven heads! I’ve looked in the past 6000 years to find 7 unique times when Saturn was at the base of Ophiuchus… nothing concrete to report on yet… Saturn has 7 rings which could also be the 7 diadems because the rings have moons in them which could visually represent gem stones.
10 Horns: This is where I get stuck. I’m not convinced on any one of these ideas but I’ll throw it out there.
1- If the 7 heads are the 7 planets… what are the horns??? I don’t know
2- If the heads are the sun as it comes to Virgo an the “Head of every year” to mark the 7 year tribulation… think about this. Rosh means “head”.. Rosh Hashanah means “head of the year”… What’s blown every year on Rosh Hashanah? The horn or “Yobel” which is where we get the Jubilee word from. Could heads and horns be pointing to Rosh Hashana?
If the 7 heads of the years (with the sun at Virgo) is a time marker... what are the 10 horns or Jubilees?
Only one I can think of is that Jupiter make exactly 500 laps around the sun and arrives back in Virgo from the 3915 BC closest near miss. If Jupiter is truly mimicking the Jubilee cycle this could be it… Hence this Dragon sign could be a time marker to verify the Great sign.
3- If the heads are Saturn, viewed over time, I don’t know what the horns are…
We’ve got a few days left… anybody want to help find him?
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Post by socalexile on Aug 15, 2017 19:11:17 GMT -6
BOSG - Have you seen this one yet - please forgive if I have (!)? I know that Brad has seen it. But it really IS the best explanation I have seen yet.
Especially now that we know that Saturn will be at the serpent bearer's foot on 9/4! And Jupiter close to it? Lots of attention is starting to be drawn to that sign! (starting at minute 10:30)
On the first video, I took a screen of what's happening on 15 OCT. I'm not seeing the connection across the head and tail that he speaks of. Everything is pretty much clustered up in Virgo still: Attachments:
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2017 20:00:02 GMT -6
Sam's not here to explain, so we'll have to see how that might be answered. But the Corona Borealis is definitely at the top, Caput Serpens is definitely there and so is Ophiuchus. If you took the tail of the serpent and took it from a pivot point on the serpent bearer; it very well could sweep across 1/3 of the heaven and align nicely along the lower lines of the virgin stretching out to Mars.
Have to reach out to Sam.
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Post by socalexile on Aug 15, 2017 20:26:08 GMT -6
Sam's not here to explain, so we'll have to see how that might be answered. But the Corona Borealis is definitely at the top, Caput Serpens is definitely there and so is Ophiuchus. If you took the tail of the serpent and took it from a pivot point on the serpent bearer; it very well could sweep across 1/3 of the heaven and align nicely along the lower lines of the virgin stretching out to Mars. Have to reach out to Sam. We may consider that Scorpio might be a part of this, given the interpretation of it in the Mazzaroth (attached). it may be that because of the wandering stars, that Serpens joins with Scorpio, making one large snake? I haven't counted the heads yet. Also consider that Jupiter goes into retrograde in Libra just before it leaves it to go into Scorpio. The turnaround happens next spring around March if I remember right. I'm off to work tonight so I can look at it again tomorrow.  |
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Post by socalexile on Aug 15, 2017 21:31:46 GMT -6
Interesting art for Eridanus: Attachments:
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Post by socalexile on Aug 16, 2017 8:08:47 GMT -6
Some interesting statements here on Scorpio, and the expectation of it's largest star, Antares, to go supernova. |
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Post by yardstick on Aug 16, 2017 8:40:01 GMT -6
Some interesting statements here on Scorpio, and the expectation of it's largest star, Antares, to go supernova. Fascinating. |
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Post by barbiosheepgirl on Aug 16, 2017 14:22:56 GMT -6
Well, NASA has a "dragon" and they just used it to send stuff to the space station...no way this is the dragon of topic, yet the coincidences of names, numbers, dates, pretty much everything as we converge on end times, who knows? www.foxnews.com/tech/2017/08/14/spacex-sending-equipment-ice-cream-to-nasa-astronauts-in-space.htmlthis is not a new thing really, lots of stuff online to understand its mission as reuseable cargo transport to space station and even to Mars (of which this one was called the Red Dragon, but this mission put on halt in July of this year)... Trying to catch up on everyone's input and the links to videos. Still not entirely convinced that Rev 12:3 is restricted to things of the universe: And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. That word "behold" ...why would John emphasize that He Saw when he already said "another sign appeared" It makes me think this is a last minute or sudden event or an epiphany to what it is he is seeing. My current thought right now is 2 thoughts: 1) Satan is aware the great sign is there and is guessing this rapture event. Tries to do something about it right at the last minute as he must be watching too..does something right near the finality of the Great Sign.. 2) It is in the heavens according to John, but it is manmade (and controlled by a country with allies and leaders that match this: having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads) it is something of destruction that he cannot explain such as a nuke missile. What mystery of the use of the word BEHOLD... |
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