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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2017 13:20:25 GMT -6
I, for one, would love to hear how the geocentric position can be justified from a true knowledge approach without passing judgement one way or the other. I have been taught my whole life about the celestial bodies and have studied much in the realm of astronomy. But if I am genuine in my search for truth - I want to hear evidence to any idea. As far as the stars falling in scripture - we could assume: 1. The language is figurative and the stars are not really stars. 2. The language is literal and the stars are not what we think they are. 3. The language is literal and is describing what "appeared" to be happening. andrew, please do continue....
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Post by sesquipedalian on Oct 7, 2017 14:52:30 GMT -6
sesquipedalian , I believe andrew was simply trying to head off any future ranting and raving when it became apparent he was suggesting a geocentric system and near earth stars. I don't think he was referring to anything you had already said. Let's all keep cool heads and allow each other to express their ideas. andrew quoted my post and began his comments with "you". If he does not stand behind what he wrote, then he is free to retract or clarify his words. But it's probably not a good idea for you to speak on his behalf, just as it was not a good idea for him to twist the words of my post.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2017 17:42:51 GMT -6
sesquipedalian , I believe andrew was simply trying to head off any future ranting and raving when it became apparent he was suggesting a geocentric system and near earth stars. I don't think he was referring to anything you had already said. Let's all keep cool heads and allow each other to express their ideas. andrew quoted my post and began his comments with "you". If he does not stand behind what he wrote, then he is free to retract or clarify his words. But it's probably not a good idea for you to speak on his behalf, just as it was not a good idea for him to twist the words of my post. I see your point about speaking on Andrew's behalf , and I stand corrected.
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Post by sesquipedalian on Oct 7, 2017 19:18:19 GMT -6
Good man. Proverbs 9:9 right there.
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Post by sesquipedalian on Oct 7, 2017 19:26:22 GMT -6
As far as the stars falling in scripture - we could assume: 1. The language is figurative and the stars are not really stars. 2. The language is literal and the stars are not what we think they are. 3. The language is literal and is describing what "appeared" to be happening. Personally, I incline toward 3, because the third option is the best way to interpret verses 1 and 2. Meteors would definitely fit; just as we call planets "wandering stars", we also call meteors "shooting stars". I also speculated previously whether satellites might fit the prophecy. Bright satellites appear as stars moving across the night sky.
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Post by andrew on Oct 10, 2017 2:02:07 GMT -6
sesquipedalian , I believe andrew was simply trying to head off any future ranting and raving when it became apparent he was suggesting a geocentric system and near earth stars. I don't think he was referring to anything you had already said. Let's all keep cool heads and allow each other to express their ideas. Yes. Sorry, I should have been more clear about that. I apologize.
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Post by sesquipedalian on Oct 10, 2017 12:04:40 GMT -6
Apology accepted. Let us reason together. I share @silentknight 's curiosity about your holding to the geocentric model of the solar system, andrew . I believe there are lower-case t truths that point toward the upper-case T Truth, and I think the heliocentric model of the solar system is one of those lower-case t truths. Conversely, and ironically, if you believe that the "stars falling to earth" are literal fusion-gas stars, that strikes me as hewing too closely to the scientific view without leaving room for figurative language. Would you care to elaborate?
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