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Post by Natalie on Jul 9, 2020 14:39:08 GMT -6
Several months ago, I ran across a $.99 pre-order for a book titled "Did God the Father Really Kill God the Son?" (One of the authors is part of the ministry "One for Israel." Any profit from the book goes to ministry.)
Before the book, my answer was, "Of course not." But I have heard "God killed His Son for us" a couple of times in the past couple of months. So, which is it?
I thought the book was interesting and a pretty quick read (it's 100 pages). But I find myself wanting to go through it again because there are some really good things to meditate on.
The book also addresses God's wrath and Jesus's quoting of Psalm 22 and being "forsaken". Something that God has been stressing to me the past couple of years - context, context, context.
But basically my answer is still, no, the Father did not kill the Son. The short answer - Men killed Him, and God raised Him from the dead. God knew men would reject Him and murder Him thereby unknowingly providing the Perfect Sacrifice for their sins (and the all of mankind). The One to end all sacrifices.
One of my favorite sentences "...it is not that Jesus suffered enough to pay for us all, it is that Jesus is righteous enough to pay for us all." (pg 62)
I feel that it's a good little book that could be used to jump into a deeper study on the atoning work of Jesus.
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Post by mike on Jul 10, 2020 8:08:02 GMT -6
Natalie does the book cover what Stephen said: Something I have been learning more about is how the early church Fathers took this topic and applied to all Jews, leading to Anti-Semetism in the early church
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Post by Natalie on Jul 10, 2020 9:28:38 GMT -6
Yes, they include that Scripture. They do also cover the Scriptures where the Peter and Paul are addressing the Jewish people and point out the fact that the leaders had Him put to death. I have heard how Scripture was used to promote Anti-Semetism in the church. Very sad. This book is more of a focus on did humans or did God kill Jesus, and What does the Bible say. It doesn't point fingers to say Jews did it or Romans did it or whatever. It basically puts the responsibility on humanity in general. for example this statement: "Sinful humans killed Jesus who willingly laid down His life as the ultimate sacrifice - but God raised Him from the dead. The resurrection gets the last word." (pg 39)
I think that because Jesus died for all, not just the Jews, there is the focus on all humanity being responsible.
(Of the authors - Eitan Bar is a Messianic Jew)
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