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Post by tribulationtheory on Sept 26, 2017 10:02:02 GMT -6
Without going into a scholarly research debate, there is an age old rabbinical belief that the God of Abraham set a 7000 year timeline for mankind to dwell on this Earth in totality starting from the time of Adam and Eve unto the End with the Messiah.
With that being said, if we count the years from the time of Adam down to the Birth of Christ, we arrive at a specific number thanks to the book of Chronicles and the Bible always mentioning the age at the time of Death for the most prominent people and leaders. This number can also be derived from a secular historical timeline of major Biblical events. That number is: 3,983 Years from the time of Adam unto the Birth of Jesus Christ.
What an incredible number! Why? Well, in the Revelation of John (If it's true and accurate and not written by Cerinthus - But we'll leave that for another topic) it is revealed unto him that Christ would return and would usher in a 1000 year Millennial reign with Him in what will be the "New Jerusalem."
So, if we look to the old Rabbinical belief of the 7000 year timeline for mankind and take into consideration the 1000 year reign with Christ, we are looking at a 2nd coming at the 6000 year mark in history. But, when is that? Well, from the time of Adam until the Birth of Christ, there were 3,983 years, so if we take 6,000 minus 3,983.. we are looking at year 2017 as being the 6000 year in mankind's history and being the year that Jesus Christ comes back to establish the millennial reign. Wow! Rabbi Judah Ben Samuel must have been onto something when he predicted that one jubilee year after Israel recaptured Jerusalem, the messiah would come.
There you have it folks, this is one of the many Tribulation Theories, but it is just a theory after all.
Just remember to stay steadfast in the Word, the Truth, and the Light that is Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior, whom brought Salvation at the cross, for both you, and I. And look up, for our redemption draweth near.
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Post by Rick on Sept 26, 2017 10:47:09 GMT -6
Welcome to the forum tribulationtheory , I must admit I find this theory very compelling. My spirit tells me it's this year but my flesh struggles with it. That and disciple4life caused my head to explode in another thread.  God Bless~ 2Ti 2:15 |
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Post by mike on Sept 26, 2017 10:52:52 GMT -6
I like the way the math adds up but Christ isnt setting up His millenial reign this year. I realize what's in the OP isnt a detailed timeline, but the timeline is likely off by at least 7 yrs unless you meant the Trib begins at year 6000
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Post by yardstick on Sept 26, 2017 11:40:33 GMT -6
Without going into a scholarly research debate, there is an age old rabbinical belief that the God of Abraham set a 7000 year timeline for mankind to dwell on this Earth in totality starting from the time of Adam and Eve unto the End with the Messiah. With that being said, if we count the years from the time of Adam down to the Birth of Christ, we arrive at a specific number thanks to the book of Chronicles and the Bible always mentioning the age at the time of Death for the most prominent people and leaders. This number can also be derived from a secular historical timeline of major Biblical events. That number is: 3,983 Years from the time of Adam unto the Birth of Jesus Christ. What an incredible number! Why? Well, in the Revelation of John (If it's true and accurate and not written by Cerinthus - But we'll leave that for another topic) it is revealed unto him that Christ would return and would usher in a 1000 year Millennial reign with Him in what will be the "New Jerusalem." So, if we look to the old Rabbinical belief of the 7000 year timeline for mankind and take into consideration the 1000 year reign with Christ, we are looking at a 2nd coming at the 6000 year mark in history. But, when is that? Well, from the time of Adam until the Birth of Christ, there were 3,983 years, so if we take 6,000 minus 3,983.. we are looking at year 2017 as being the 6000 year in mankind's history and being the year that Jesus Christ comes back to establish the millennial reign. Wow! Rabbi Judah Ben Samuel must have been onto something when he predicted that one jubilee year after Israel recaptured Jerusalem, the messiah would come. There you have it folks, this is one of the many Tribulation Theories, but it is just a theory after all. Just remember to stay steadfast in the Word, the Truth, and the Light that is Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior, whom brought Salvation at the cross, for both you, and I. And look up, for our redemption draweth near.
"Without going into a scholarly research debate", you're in the ballpark. But only just.
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Post by galen on Sept 26, 2017 12:26:10 GMT -6
I believe in the 7000 years but there is no consensus about the date of creation. I think the most well known figure is 4004 BC which would make the theory wrong as 6000 years from that has already passed. We need 5993 years from creation to rapture to have the last 7 years as the rapture and I think that 5993 is about to pass.
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Post by mike on Sept 26, 2017 12:34:09 GMT -6
the Hebrew calendar is 5778 (last week) or so its believed. I know there is an alleged missing 223 but am not sure where its from. This would tally to 6001 already, so it seems askew someplace
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Post by MissusMack08 on Sept 26, 2017 13:28:32 GMT -6
the Hebrew calendar is 5778 (last week) or so its believed. I know there is an alleged missing 223 but am not sure where its from. This would tally to 6001 already, so it seems askew someplace Allegedly, its from the Medo-Persian period after the babylonians were conquered. What I have understood is that Rabbi's AFTER Jesus came and was crucified realized that the years Daniel gave added up and would indicate Jesus was the Christ, but because they didn't like that, they "rewrote" history and shortened the record of the Persian kings. This is probably why about a century after the temple was destroyed the rabbis and people got behind Bar Kokhba and heralded him as Messiah. |
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Post by MissusMack08 on Sept 26, 2017 13:40:36 GMT -6
the Hebrew calendar is 5778 (last week) or so its believed. I know there is an alleged missing 223 but am not sure where its from. This would tally to 6001 already, so it seems askew someplace Here's an article that goes into the problems with the rabbinical calendar and the year counts. Interestingly... there may be a problem with this year. Like, we may have celebrated Tishri 1 a month early. www.torahtimes.org/writings/rabbinic-deception/article.html |
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Post by disciple4life on Sept 26, 2017 14:07:07 GMT -6
Welcome to the forum tribulationtheory , I must admit I find this theory very compelling. My spirit tells me it's this year but my flesh struggles with it. That and disciple4life caused my head to explode in another thread. God Bless~ 2Ti 2:15 Hey my brother. ;-) Sorry - I really really wasn't trying to be combative or dogmatic. I know sometimes things come across very differently than we intend. My point was that the Jewish lunar cycle is really complex and that there is strong Biblical and historical evidence that even the Jews have used two different Lunar cycle calendars down through the ages, and for this reason, it's virtually impossible to prove that this is really a Jubilee year. ;-) I really do like to hear different perspectives. I just am a watchman like you, and others. My hope is that we can each share the pieces of the puzzle that we each hold and we all get the benefit of the shared insight. ;-) with love and gratitude to you and all my 'watchman' brothers and sisters. ;-)
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Post by kjs on Sept 26, 2017 14:47:03 GMT -6
Without going into a scholarly research debate, there is an age old rabbinical belief that the God of Abraham set a 7000 year timeline for mankind to dwell on this Earth in totality starting from the time of Adam and Eve unto the End with the Messiah. With that being said, if we count the years from the time of Adam down to the Birth of Christ, we arrive at a specific number thanks to the book of Chronicles and the Bible always mentioning the age at the time of Death for the most prominent people and leaders. This number can also be derived from a secular historical timeline of major Biblical events. That number is: 3,983 Years from the time of Adam unto the Birth of Jesus Christ. What an incredible number! Why? Well, in the Revelation of John (If it's true and accurate and not written by Cerinthus - But we'll leave that for another topic) it is revealed unto him that Christ would return and would usher in a 1000 year Millennial reign with Him in what will be the "New Jerusalem." So, if we look to the old Rabbinical belief of the 7000 year timeline for mankind and take into consideration the 1000 year reign with Christ, we are looking at a 2nd coming at the 6000 year mark in history. But, when is that? Well, from the time of Adam until the Birth of Christ, there were 3,983 years, so if we take 6,000 minus 3,983.. we are looking at year 2017 as being the 6000 year in mankind's history and being the year that Jesus Christ comes back to establish the millennial reign. Wow! Rabbi Judah Ben Samuel must have been onto something when he predicted that one jubilee year after Israel recaptured Jerusalem, the messiah would come. There you have it folks, this is one of the many Tribulation Theories, but it is just a theory after all. Just remember to stay steadfast in the Word, the Truth, and the Light that is Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior, whom brought Salvation at the cross, for both you, and I. And look up, for our redemption draweth near. Very interesting timeline! Could you provide a bit more detail on how you (or whomever) arrived at this precise number of years? Also, are these 360 day years or 365.4 day years? Also, a bit more information on (Cerinthus possible Revelation author -- either here or in a PM) Please note: I am not doubting or challenging your findings -- simply requesting more information to confirm them. The theory of 6000 Man years and 1000 Sabbath years (millennium) -- has been "floating around" most of these past 17 years (or this 21st century) -- yet the years never actually measured up. Just wondering what is different about this method. As already pointed out -- this particular number of years -- seems to be missing the Tribulation Years (or seven years) -- does your theory account for these missing seven years in some way? It is a fascinating subject and glad we have a thread to address it -- but I think we need to get more detail (or "into the weeds") on this rather than just a summary piece. Thanks KJ |
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Post by stormyknight on Sept 26, 2017 14:55:05 GMT -6
This is exactly why I want tickets to the "Documentary of Time" premiere. Do you think the Father has an IMAX-like theater set up somewhere the size of Jupiter?  |
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Post by MissusMack08 on Sept 26, 2017 15:53:09 GMT -6
This is exactly why I want tickets to the "Documentary of Time" premiere. Do you think the Father has an IMAX-like theater set up somewhere the size of Jupiter? I sure hope so. And all you can eat heavenly buttered popcorn 🍿 |
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Post by Rick on Sept 26, 2017 16:49:05 GMT -6
Welcome to the forum tribulationtheory , I must admit I find this theory very compelling. My spirit tells me it's this year but my flesh struggles with it. That and disciple4life caused my head to explode in another thread. God Bless~ 2Ti 2:15 Hey my brother. ;-) Sorry - I really really wasn't trying to be combative or dogmatic. I know sometimes things come across very differently than we intend. My point was that the Jewish lunar cycle is really complex and that there is strong Biblical and historical evidence that even the Jews have used two different Lunar cycle calendars down through the ages, and for this reason, it's virtually impossible to prove that this is really a Jubilee year. ;-) I really do like to hear different perspectives. I just am a watchman like you, and others. My hope is that we can each share the pieces of the puzzle that we each hold and we all get the benefit of the shared insight. ;-) with love and gratitude to you and all my 'watchman' brothers and sisters. ;-)
Oh no, no apology needed at all. I found it rather amusing. I guess I should have put a smiley face on there. I enjoyed very much reading through your post as I do most everyone here. I enjoy the intrigue of reading and sharing other perspectives more than you know. There aren't really any individuals around my area that share the same ideas as my wife and I do. They are christian by name only. They go to church to have their ears tickled. I know it's sad to say and I hate saying it. I'm not trying to be in judgement of them at all, for only God truly knows their heart. Any time I get to share the word and draw another breath is truly a blessing. God Bless my brother ~ 2Ti 2:15 |
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Post by tribulationtheory on Sept 26, 2017 18:30:12 GMT -6
Post 1 of 2. Hey everyone, I will attach a timeline to view the dates backed by scripture.    |
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Post by tribulationtheory on Sept 26, 2017 18:34:15 GMT -6
Post 2 of 2. It stops at year 535.5 B.C. which is the end of Judah. So take that time to the birth of Christ, you end up with 535.5 years total. Add to 3447.5 on the biblical calendar, and you have 3983 years.   |
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