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Post by jlr1701 on Sept 14, 2017 7:39:39 GMT -6
Hey everybody, One of the things that brought me to this site is a post which I believe was back in July about the Jews regaining control of the area in Jerusalem that they need to rebuild the Third Temple. Do they still have control of it and what's the latest on this? I know very little about this subject other than I recall something about a place called the Dome of the Rock, I think, which currently has a Muslim mosque built on it? Could someone please educate me on this issue? Thanks!  Jeff |
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Post by mike on Sept 14, 2017 10:48:02 GMT -6
Jeff,
I'd say read a bit through this folder and you should get caught up to speed. Several theories on the third temple its likely location etc. are here. Other concepts of the third temple are that it wont be built and that our bodies are that temple
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Post by watchmanjim on Sept 15, 2017 23:07:00 GMT -6
Oh I'm pretty sure it will be built, but I think they won't do it until there's a catalyst--and that should happen shortly. |
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Post by watchman35 on Sept 18, 2017 18:44:22 GMT -6
Oh I'm pretty sure it will be built, but I think they won't do it until there's a catalyst--and that should happen shortly. Yes, the Harpazo will be the Catalyst of all catalysts!!! |
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Post by linda on Sept 27, 2017 23:44:39 GMT -6
Jeff, I'd say read a bit through this folder and you should get caught up to speed. Several theories on the third temple its likely location etc. are here. Other concepts of the third temple are that it wont be built and that our bodies are that temple It would have to be built for the abomination of desolation to occur. I would think it would have to be built quickly, though, for that to happen in the middle of the tribulation - unless we are all totally off base and that won't happen for awhile. |
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Post by watchmanjim on Sept 29, 2017 22:30:42 GMT -6
I don't know exactly what it would take to build the temple, but I've seen some pretty impressive buildings go up in a relatively short amount of time. Without OSHA and various other encumbrances we enjoy in the USA, they might well get it done within a year or less.
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Post by Rick on Oct 2, 2017 0:20:24 GMT -6
I don't know exactly what it would take to build the temple, but I've seen some pretty impressive buildings go up in a relatively short amount of time. Without OSHA and various other encumbrances we enjoy in the USA, they might well get it done within a year or less. Hey watchmanjim, I was trying to track down an article I read from The Temple Institute www.templeinstitute.org/main.htm a few years ago. Basically they said they could build the temple in just under 15 months and I know today they already have everything they need for the inside of the temple. |
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Post by brian on Oct 8, 2017 22:53:49 GMT -6
I don't know exactly what it would take to build the temple, but I've seen some pretty impressive buildings go up in a relatively short amount of time. Without OSHA and various other encumbrances we enjoy in the USA, they might well get it done within a year or less. Hey watchmanjim , I was trying to track down an article I read from The Temple Institute www.templeinstitute.org/main.htm a few years ago. Basically they said they could build the temple in just under 15 months and I know today they already have everything they need for the inside of the temple. I also saw something where they showed that they even have the alter built. Now correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought I heard that they don't need to finish the entire temple in order to start doing the sacrifices again, just the part where the alter will go?? If true, maybe that final week could start while the temple is still under construction.? |
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Post by Rick on Oct 9, 2017 19:45:30 GMT -6
Hey watchmanjim , I was trying to track down an article I read from The Temple Institute www.templeinstitute.org/main.htm a few years ago. Basically they said they could build the temple in just under 15 months and I know today they already have everything they need for the inside of the temple. I also saw something where they showed that they even have the alter built. Now correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought I heard that they don't need to finish the entire temple in order to start doing the sacrifices again, just the part where the alter will go?? If true, maybe that final week could start while the temple is still under construction.? I do remember reading something about that my self. I don't recall where I read it or even how long ago now, but it has been some time. |
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Post by watchmanjim on Oct 9, 2017 21:10:25 GMT -6
I've wondered too-- does it actually say that the SACRIFICES will occur for 3.5 years? I don't remember a single verse saying that. It says after 3.5 years the sacrifices and oblations will cease, but 3.5 years from what?
The beginning of sacrifices?
The building of the temple?
The peace treaty?
I'm not sure if it's super clear from the context. I had been under the impression that it actually refers to 3.5 years from the peace treaty. For instance it could go like this. The peace treaty is made. Two months later, building begins on the temple. Fifteen months after that, the temple is complete. One month after that, sacrifices are commenced. (that puts us, just for example, 18 months in). Two years later, the AOD occurs-- 3.5 years after the peace treaty, but for example, only 2 years after the sacrifices begin. (Or any other amount of time within 3.5 years).
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Post by Rick on Oct 10, 2017 8:27:45 GMT -6
I've wondered too-- does it actually say that the SACRIFICES will occur for 3.5 years? I don't remember a single verse saying that. It says after 3.5 years the sacrifices and oblations will cease, but 3.5 years from what? The beginning of sacrifices? The building of the temple? The peace treaty? I'm not sure if it's super clear from the context. I had been under the impression that it actually refers to 3.5 years from the peace treaty. For instance it could go like this. The peace treaty is made. Two months later, building begins on the temple. Fifteen months after that, the temple is complete. One month after that, sacrifices are commenced. (that puts us, just for example, 18 months in). Two years later, the AOD occurs-- 3.5 years after the peace treaty, but for example, only 2 years after the sacrifices begin. (Or any other amount of time within 3.5 years). You're right watchmanjim, no where does it say how long the sacrifices take place, only that they are stopped after 3 1/2 yrs. I know that it is not us (the church), that wants or needs the temple for we (church) are (our bodies) the temple. I'm fairly certain that, no where in the bible has God told the Jewish people to build the temple. It's only something they feel they need to worship God. |
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Post by MikeTaft on Oct 15, 2017 14:15:54 GMT -6
I've wondered too-- does it actually say that the SACRIFICES will occur for 3.5 years? I don't remember a single verse saying that. It says after 3.5 years the sacrifices and oblations will cease, but 3.5 years from what? The beginning of sacrifices? The building of the temple? The peace treaty? I'm not sure if it's super clear from the context. I had been under the impression that it actually refers to 3.5 years from the peace treaty. For instance it could go like this. The peace treaty is made. Two months later, building begins on the temple. Fifteen months after that, the temple is complete. One month after that, sacrifices are commenced. (that puts us, just for example, 18 months in). Two years later, the AOD occurs-- 3.5 years after the peace treaty, but for example, only 2 years after the sacrifices begin. (Or any other amount of time within 3.5 years). You're right watchmanjim , no where does it say how long the sacrifices take place, only that they are stopped after 3 1/2 yrs. I know that it is not us (the church), that wants or needs the temple for we (church) are (our bodies) the temple. I'm fairly certain that, no where in the bible has God told the Jewish people to build the temple. It's only something they feel they need to worship God. Interestingly enough, even though God does not command to rebuild the temple, it still has yet to be built as shown to Ezekiel in chapter 40. The Jews still see the temple as their connection to the Father. This vision also falls on the 10th day of the month which some perceive to be the Day of Atonement which I find interesting. Another point is that the war of Gog and Magog occur in Ezekiel 38 & 39 which may very well be the catalyst to allow the Jews to rebuild the temple. |
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Post by Rick on Oct 15, 2017 19:13:00 GMT -6
You're right watchmanjim , no where does it say how long the sacrifices take place, only that they are stopped after 3 1/2 yrs. I know that it is not us (the church), that wants or needs the temple for we (church) are (our bodies) the temple. I'm fairly certain that, no where in the bible has God told the Jewish people to build the temple. It's only something they feel they need to worship God. Interestingly enough, even though God does not command to rebuild the temple, it still has yet to be built as shown to Ezekiel in chapter 40. The Jews still see the temple as their connection to the Father. This vision also falls on the 10th day of the month which some perceive to be the Day of Atonement which I find interesting. Another point is that the war of Gog and Magog occur in Ezekiel 38 & 39 which may very well be the catalyst to allow the Jews to rebuild the temple. Welcome to the board MikeTaft, I too have thought that the Gog, Magog war could be what starts Daniel's 70th week. Oddly enough God never commanded the Jewish people to build any of the temples. It was their (Jews) idea to build the temple. Because they insisted on it God did give them the blueprint as to how it should be built. |
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Post by MikeTaft on Oct 16, 2017 7:28:18 GMT -6
Interestingly enough, even though God does not command to rebuild the temple, it still has yet to be built as shown to Ezekiel in chapter 40. The Jews still see the temple as their connection to the Father. This vision also falls on the 10th day of the month which some perceive to be the Day of Atonement which I find interesting. Another point is that the war of Gog and Magog occur in Ezekiel 38 & 39 which may very well be the catalyst to allow the Jews to rebuild the temple. Welcome to the board MikeTaft , I too have thought that the Gog, Magog war could be what starts Daniel's 70th week. Oddly enough God never commanded the Jewish people to build any of the temples. It was their (Jews) idea to build the temple. Because they insisted on it God did give them the blueprint as to how it should be built. Completely agree Rick. Thanks for the warm welcome. God kept things pretty simple, there was us and Him. Then the Israelites asked for a king, when He was THE KING. Even as God is Omnipresent they still asked to make a house for Him. Yet God calls the world His footstool (Isaiah 66:1). Soon enough the Kingdom of Heaven will be established here on earth and the Jews will finally realize who the Messiah truly is. On another note, I noticed Trump bailed on the re-certification of the Iran deal. Ever since Trump got in things have been accelerating rampantly towards all out war in the Middle East. Amazing times we live in! |
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Post by disciple4life on Oct 18, 2017 10:54:44 GMT -6
Jeff, I'd say read a bit through this folder and you should get caught up to speed. Several theories on the third temple its likely location etc. are here. Other concepts of the third temple are that it wont be built and that our bodies are that temple It would have to be built for the abomination of desolation to occur. I would think it would have to be built quickly, though, for that to happen in the middle of the tribulation - unless we are all totally off base and that won't happen for awhile. I totally agree Linda. Great point! Scripture says explicitly that the abomination of desolation will take place/ occur in the holy place. Also, like Rick mentioned, they have all the utensils, and are already training the priests, which have to be vetted, to confirm they are from the line/ tribe of Levi.
I saw a documentary where there are Rabbis who are visiting farms in the US, to breed pure red heifers. If they find two white or black hairs, it's out. It might be fine for McDonalds, but not for the temple.
Also, they have the solid gold Menorrah, enclosed in 1 inch thick bulletproof Plexiglas. There was a video on YouTube, that showed that Jews actually did a real sacrifice this year, 2017 on Passover, and killed a lamb and roasted it. Even without the temple in place. There are also multiple reports that they have the actual plans, - everything is in place. Another huge piece of the puzzle is that this year, for the first time, in years, regained control of the Temple mount. I also agree that we will be gone- Harpazo. It's only my hypothesis, but imagine the total world chaos and anarchy after tens of millions of people are gone, and then in the atheist and Muslim countries, all the babies gone. I can see that in this total panic and hysteria, that a powerful, charismatic leader will arise who can bring order. It makes sense that there could/ would be some gap between the rapture and the start of the tribulation. From what I've heard and read, if we were to see a temple start being physically built, it would be a strong indicator - (but not proof that the Harpazo event is mid trib), but I think the real trigger event, is the 7 year treaty. Seems like a nuclear provocation, or attempted strike by Iran, Russia, or N Korea, could light the powder keg and tip the dominoes.
Maranatha.
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