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Post by mike on Oct 17, 2017 19:51:46 GMT -6
I can't find the dang quote of who called Mars the red dragon 🤔
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Post by cwood85 on Oct 17, 2017 20:31:54 GMT -6
You bet I did  I don't even think it was a full five minutes after Ingot the YouTube notification lol. But I have to rewatch it. I was trying to watch it with my no napping teething 20 month old lol and missed some of the details. Thanks Paul!!! |
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Post by cwood85 on Oct 17, 2017 20:33:48 GMT -6
I am also reading through the creationism website as well. Just amazing |
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Post by karen on Oct 17, 2017 20:51:41 GMT -6
Paul, Paul, Paul, Paaaul, Paaaaaauuuuul! paulwatchmandawson did you read the literature I sent you (always props to brother @stephan for bringing it here) about the "Mars Wars" where several writings identify Mars as the Red Dragon? Cuz your video really ties it together! Man you didn't post it here. Found it and got excited brother! Dang! I discovered one small, but potentially interesting bit of information that ties in with Paul Watchman's video is that the correct name of the month in which all these events are taking place is Marcheshvan,(sunset Oct 21 to sunset Nov 19) it is usually shortened to cheshvan but the Mar prefix is the correct name. Strong's H4751 mar or marah: bitter, bitterness biblehub.com/hebrew/4751.htm |
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Post by disciple4life on Oct 23, 2017 4:01:42 GMT -6
Hello Paul,
I have a quick question - two other watchmen mentioned that you have a video that briefly talks about the phenomena (Miracles)related to the Temple, and the Lord's Lot [The scarlet string on the Goat sent into the wilderness and other miracles] and how it's confirmed by the Talmud. ***This is very significant as a "Hostile Witness".
Could you please tell me which video.? I thought one of them said it was in the last half of a video about Mars.
Blessings,
Disciple4life I don't have Stary night or Stellarium, but there was a Christian attorney who said that he found an eclipse at Passover (though I think he had the wrong year). Paul, I've heard multiple places that it's impossible to have an eclipse on a full moon. ?? But I don't remember if this was a solar eclipse or lunar eclipse. Particularly interesting is how the Blood moons correlate to 31 AD. ??
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Post by mike on Oct 23, 2017 5:43:41 GMT -6
D4L, I couldnt locate the right video yesterday, was busy running around but I did find this which talks about the same content. I threw it in the shoutbox yesterday too  EDIT - I didnt read the link until after posting it here. It is lengthy and is in opposition to the claim of Christians using the Talmud to prove Jesus was messiah. However, as Paul commented to me at one time, "gotta sift through a lot of dirt to nuggets of gold (or diamonds)" something like that outreachjudaism.org/yomkippur/ |
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Post by disciple4life on Oct 23, 2017 6:52:16 GMT -6
Hello Mike, no worries, brother. ;-) paulwatchmandawson replied and it is Part 9 of Revelation 12 sign, Berean Study. . It's right about the 26 minute mark.
And I agree - I read the article you posted - by the rabbi and it's drivel. Man, is this guy hostile to Christians - He reminds us all that the Talmud says that "Jesus of Nazareth was neither virtuous, nor was He the Messiah." This is a huge contradiction for the Jews. They claim Jesus was a good teacher. He raised people from the dead and caused the blind to see, and this was witnessed and testified by countless witnesses.
** This also adds another whole level of meaning to the term "Hostile witness". Notice, however that he didn't deny what the Talmud clearly records - Both versions confirm that these miracles did indeed happen.
It's like the Koran -/ Quran. Satan has no raw (original material) just like the way he took God's work of astronomy and twisted it, corrupted it, and now we have astrology - The enemy took the Bible and copied it, and twisted it and even Muslims say Muhammed was illiterate and possessed by a demon. It does however, contain truth. -- According to the Quran, - which every Muslim has to agree is perfect and without error - Jesus Christ was sinless, while the Quran records that Muhammed confessed his sins 3 times.
This reinforces the point in the other thread, unsealed.boards.net/thread/1109/crucifixion-jesus-relation-eschatology that we never use Archaeology or the Talmud, or the Rosetta Stone, or Babylonian tablets to build theology, or the Epic of Gilgamesh, but these can serve as 'extra-Biblical witnesses / sources that confirm what the Bible says and other examples include Pliny the Younger, and Flavius Josephus - a world-renown Jewish Historian that confirm Biblical events. |
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Post by mike on Oct 23, 2017 7:25:22 GMT -6
Yes D4L I agree...We dont base theology on these sources, but I do like the extra biblical items to help bring some pictures into focus. I've always wondered about the temple and waht it was used for prior to its destruction. God was merciful towards the Jews for about 40 yrs. allowing them to continue in the old covenant but showed them things had changed.
Also one of my favs is the book of Enoch and how it can help with Genesis 6
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Post by paulwatchmandawson on Oct 29, 2017 16:29:00 GMT -6
Hi Guys, sorry I missed the convo until a few days ago and couldn't respond. All good this side and looking more and more to me like mars is clearly and undisputedly the dragon (in my eyes at least). I have come under a lot of attack while trying to complete the video. I try my hardest to convince others that Mars being the Dragon is what holds the whole sign together until Venus (The head) works its way down to Jupiter (The body). I put some of it together but there is so much information that Patten covers that it is difficult to choose and organise what to put in. I found other stuff I wanted to include as well.
Thanks again for the pointer to the book Mike, I put a thanks to you at the end of the video as well. God bless!
From the Greek word astro is ‘star’. The very word "cat-astro-phe" has its origins in the heavens. What happened in our distant past? Mars holds all the clues and the research has already been done for us.
Topics:
Job's Cosmic Catastrophe
Gods Leviathan
Attributes of Mars
Mars Mysteries
Volcanism on Mars
Donald Patten
The case for Catastrophism
Questions about Mars
Mars Moons & Gulliver's Travels
Revelation 12 Text Review
Mars/Venus Conjunction
Images of Mars
MOLA - Mars Orbiter Laser Altimeter
True Topography of Mars
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Post by klb on Oct 29, 2017 19:51:51 GMT -6
Wow paulwatchmandawson That's amazing! I remember in your video (The Corruption of Libra and the Holy Altar) that Mars first follows Jupiter through Virgo, then Jupiter goes into Libra which is actually an altar or throne. Would this be the part of the Revelation sign where the child is caught up to the throne? |
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Post by paulwatchmandawson on Oct 30, 2017 5:14:24 GMT -6
Kib, yes that is my thinking too.
Further to the Isaiah 51:9 "wounding of the dragon" being Mars, could Mars possibly have been zapped by a huge cosmic lightning bolt? Or perhaps coming so close to another massive body in space (Nibiru/Earth?) the electrical discharges between the two massively charged cores of the bodies along with magnetism and gravity created a massive gash in the side of the planet?
Explained in these videos the idea is also very compelling.
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Post by mike on Oct 31, 2017 6:30:59 GMT -6
paulwatchmandawson, thanks but no need to mention me in there I havent had a chance to finish the video yet. Started watching late last night and fell asleep (OOPS!) Have you seen the other book by Patten - www.creationism.org/patten/PattenRecOrgSolSys/index.htm this could be Nibiru (or whatever we wanna call it). If you get time, check it out. Its about as long as Mars wars, but makes a lot of sense!
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Post by sawdy on Oct 31, 2017 7:16:29 GMT -6
paulwatchmandawson Your mars video was great! There was a little bit of scratchyness in the sound but it could have been only on my end. I especially liked the planet x and mars comparison slide. How many large volcanoes does mars have? They kind of stick up like horns. mikeStay awake next time! It is a great watch although Paul's accent is lovely and I do find his voice relaxing. Lol I will have to make another attempt at the Mars/Earth Wars book though as I fell asleep several times reading through that one. It is interesting, I just keep trying to read it at the wrong time of day.
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Post by mike on Oct 31, 2017 7:33:30 GMT -6
LOL yes sawdy, it was late last night. I'll watch the rest tonight |
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Post by cwood85 on Oct 31, 2017 9:17:18 GMT -6
Watched/listened to all the videos you posted paulwatchmandawson! Very interesting information and data presented and being a professional photographer, I can certainly tell you those new photographs of Mars are heavily Photoshopped. The reason I say this is when the most recent photographs of Jupiter were released on Nasa's website as supposed RAW images, I was not impressed with the quality. Particularly that these photographs were taken by a machine that can produce 4K resolution video and photographs. That is not what I edited lol. Although it was fun editing the photographs of our Giant planet, they were edited before being released (so not truly RAW), grainy, and the metadata was scrubbed from the files so I could not see what the exposure, aperture and that sort of information was. I am sure they have their reasons for not wanting that information tied to the files, but it made editing them a little more tricky. |
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I don't even think it was a full five minutes after Ingot the YouTube notification lol. But I have to rewatch it. I was trying to watch it with my no napping teething 20 month old lol and missed some of the details. 
