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Post by watchmanjim on Jul 11, 2017 11:49:53 GMT -6
I have wondered if, yes, just that: America is destroyed by judgments (of whatever nature), and practically everyone dies there, but after that, Israel actually escapes by plane to America (The Berlin Airlift might be a harbinger of that) to escape the dire trouble in the Holy Land. Maybe.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2017 13:06:59 GMT -6
God"s Road map to the end(Jaco's) matches unbelievably up with the Bible scriptures. The Niburu thing I'm still holding out there to the side....but it's a possibility. Time will tell. But what he says the Jews do when they flee sounds the most like the scriptures read And contextually sound..
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Post by whatif on Jul 11, 2017 14:08:07 GMT -6
Would fit with judgement... Let's say Yellowstone explodes, turning America into a wasteland. There you go! A possibility, Beloved!
I'm just speculating here, but here's another thought to add to the mix: There is the description of a terrible earthquake breaking Babylon apart into 3 pieces in Revelation 16:17-21. Is it possible the US could be broken apart into 3 pieces should New Madrid or Yellowstone or Cascadia (or a combination of these) occur? The event happens at the 7th Bowl Judgment, so I am thinking very near the end of the 7 years... maybe when an "X" is made over the US?
Then the seventh angel poured out his bowl into the air. And a mighty shout came from the throne in the Temple, saying, “It is finished!” Then the thunder crashed and rolled, and lightning flashed. And a great earthquake struck—the worst since people were placed on the earth. The great city of Babylon split into three sections, and the cities of many nations fell into heaps of rubble. So God remembered all of Babylon’s sins, and he made her drink the cup that was filled with the wine of his fierce wrath. And every island disappeared, and all the mountains were leveled. There was a terrible hailstorm, and hailstones weighing as much as seventy-five pounds fell from the sky onto the people below. They cursed God because of the terrible plague of the hailstorm.
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Post by watchmanjim on Jul 12, 2017 23:14:56 GMT -6
Every time a cup is mentioned in the Scripture, look to see whether there is a meaning of judgment or destruction. In Christ's case, He took the cup of destruction and judgment for us on the cross. In end times prophecy, the cup usually refers to a nation or other entity receiving judgment or destruction.
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Post by yardstick on Jul 17, 2017 8:33:10 GMT -6
corrected below:
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Post by yardstick on Jul 17, 2017 8:39:17 GMT -6
Would fit with judgement... Let's say Yellowstone explodes, turning America into a wasteland. There you go! I have been wondering lately about whether there is a relationship between Amos 8 and the United States: 4Hear this, you who trample the needy and do away with the poor of the land, 5saying, “When will the New Moon be over that we may sell grain, and the Sabbath be ended that we may market wheat?”— skimping on the measure,
boosting the price
and cheating with dishonest scales,
6buying the poor with silver
and the needy for a pair of sandals,
selling even the sweepings with the wheat.7The Lord has sworn by himself, the Pride of Jacob: “I will never forget anything they have done. 8“Will not the land tremble for this, and all who live in it mourn? The whole land will rise like the Nile;
it will be stirred up and then sink
like the river of Egypt.Considering the 'cross' at "Little Egypt", I thought maybe it was a reference to some of the maps I have seen where the Mississippi River becomes quite a bit wider due to a quake at the New Madras fault. But maybe it is Yellowstone? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 10:16:57 GMT -6
This is predicted of Israel/Jerusalem.
This really needs more time than I have at the moment, but I'll attempt it short.
We can read into the Bible, America's corruption very easily. On the other hand, it is hard to imagine that Israel as bad. I think that is partly because we know they are the roots of our faith and God's chosen people - that we 'cling' to defending them - as well as we should!
But the 7 years of Tribulation, is about GOD DEALING WITH ISRAEL. He as a beef (issue) with them and that is what the bible is all about - God's people. The Bible is about physically the people/nations mentioned....Spiritually the hearts of men. Feast days only have their understanding through the Jewish faith. Amos 8 - the people want those Holy Convocations to go by..why? Because they 'have' to abide by them of their own standards. These are Jews. Tel Aviv is the gay capital of the world. Israel had the first transgender winner of Eurovision's version of "America's got Talent" YEARS AGO - They celebrated their win with great pride. Yet they were supposed to be a 'light' unto the Gentiles of God's ways - not evil shepherds leading people to their destruction.
They have become Very corrupt. We are too - but they had God! OVER and OVER they promised to keep the commandments, recite the blessings and curses of following God, Festivals, etc. And they agreed all the time. Gentile nations did not make those agreements...but they DID. He takes oaths VERY seriously. The tribulation and judgements are about wicked/idolatrous Israelites that have attempted to benefit from the blessings without acknowledging God. And all those who have come against her and participated in her adultery. |
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Post by yardstick on Jul 17, 2017 11:36:23 GMT -6
This is predicted of Israel/Jerusalem.
This really needs more time than I have at the moment, but I'll attempt it short.
We can read into the Bible, America's corruption very easily. On the other hand, it is hard to imagine that Israel as bad. I think that is partly because we know they are the roots of our faith and God's chosen people - that we 'cling' to defending them - as well as we should!
But the 7 years of Tribulation, is about GOD DEALING WITH ISRAEL. He as a beef (issue) with them and that is what the bible is all about - God's people. The Bible is about physically the people/nations mentioned....Spiritually the hearts of men. Feast days only have their understanding through the Jewish faith. Amos 8 - the people want those Holy Convocations to go by..why? Because they 'have' to abide by them of their own standards. These are Jews. Tel Aviv is the gay capital of the world. Israel had the first transgender winner of Eurovision's version of "America's got Talent" YEARS AGO - They celebrated their win with great pride. Yet they were supposed to be a 'light' unto the Gentiles of God's ways - not evil shepherds leading people to their destruction.
They have become Very corrupt. We are too - but they had God! OVER and OVER they promised to keep the commandments, recite the blessings and curses of following God, Festivals, etc. And they agreed all the time. Gentile nations did not make those agreements...but they DID. He takes oaths VERY seriously. The tribulation and judgements are about wicked/idolatrous Israelites that have attempted to benefit from the blessings without acknowledging God. And all those who have come against her and participated in her adultery. Thank you. This explanation really helps the passage I posted make sense. The Jews do have a reputation for doing those things that I italicized. |
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Post by watchmanjim on Jul 18, 2017 2:00:58 GMT -6
All points well taken--
And I do think there is some kind of special relationship between Israel and the US--not sure exactly what the Biblical precision is, regarding that relation, but for so many of the prophecies regarding Israel, the shoe easily fits on the foot of America as well.
In my study of Biblical prophecy, I keep coming back to the multi-fulfillment, and multi-layer fulfillment aspect of prophecy.
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Post by yardstick on Jul 18, 2017 8:39:18 GMT -6
... In my study of Biblical prophecy, I keep coming back to the multi-fulfillment, and multi-layer fulfillment aspect of prophecy. I've noticed that appears a lot. There are frequent parallelisms, meanings, et c. |
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