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Post by Gary on Oct 16, 2023 9:34:53 GMT -6
In the long-term, it's clear enough where this is headed. In the short-term, things have perhaps quieted with Hezbollah and Iran. Not sure why. Yet the intensity has been going back and forth. Iran issued no less than three threats that an Israeli ground invasion of Gaza could result in Iranian and/or Hezbollah intervention. Everything is on edge right now, and the question is: who, if anyone, will blink?
Given that this is an actual declared war between Israel and Hamas and the death toll is massive (especially relatively speaking - the largest Israeli loss of life since the big earlier wars '48, '67, '73), I think 2023-24 will be a sea change in the prophetic landscape. Plus, it appears that red heifer(s) will be sacrificed this very next Passover.
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Post by davewatchman on Oct 16, 2023 16:47:25 GMT -6
In the long-term, it's clear enough where this is headed. In the short-term, things have perhaps quieted with Hezbollah and Iran. Not sure why. Yet the intensity has been going back and forth. Iran issued no less than three threats that an Israeli ground invasion of Gaza could result in Iranian and/or Hezbollah intervention. Everything is on edge right now, and the question is: who, if anyone, will blink?
It was Blinken. The news feeds were crazy. We all thought it would happen then. Blinken flew around the Arab nations. The U.S does not want this war. If war breaks out in the middle east, and Xi decides to hit Taiwan at that time, the U.S. doesn't want to be involved in 3 wars at once.
Moshe said it best in this audio file:
But even with a billion dollar Iranian deal, none of the participants wants peace. The Israeli people don't want it. They want an end to Hamas for good. They want Hamas to pay for what they did. I'd hate to be Netanyahu and have to tell them they can't have it. He would be finished. Like what Moshe said in the audio, the players involved on both side hate each other. This peace deal, even if it could be called that, could fall apart at any second. It's more like a delay.
I agree with you. Between now and 2024. We should see something happen. I thought it might be starting last Sunday. I don't want war, or to see this death and destruction. But we're headed for that punctiliar point in time. The hour, the day, the month, and the year. To kill a third of mankind. To us it just means that our Lord is near. Even standing at the very door. We lift up our heads.
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Post by Dave on Oct 16, 2023 17:48:06 GMT -6
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Post by Dave on Oct 16, 2023 18:04:15 GMT -6
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Post by Gary on Oct 17, 2023 15:20:40 GMT -6
I agree with you. Between now and 2024. We should see something happen. I thought it might be starting last Sunday. I don't want war, or to see this death and destruction. But we're headed for that punctiliar point in time. The hour, the day, the month, and the year. To kill a third of mankind. To us it just means that our Lord is near. Even standing at the very door. We lift up our heads. Yes, agreed. I do not want war, but it appears it's coming no matter what. I suspect this is the proverbial calm before the storm. I also suspect both sides (U.S./Israel and Hamas/Hezbollah/Iran) have backed themselves into a corner; they don't want full-scale war but can't slow the train down fast enough to prevent it cascading over the cliff. Despite all the threats and subsequent cooling off of both sides, I don't see how the genie is put back in the bottle. Israel has called home upwards of 400,000 Jews. Israelis have been evacuated from the south near Gaza and the north near Lebanon and Syria. Two US aircraft carriers, dozens of ships, dozens of planes. An actual declared war for the first time in 50 years. We're witnessing shaping operations. I suspect this war will run until the spring, and Bibi wasn't being facetious when he said it will change the face of the Middle East.
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Post by davewatchman on Oct 17, 2023 16:35:45 GMT -6
I agree with you. Between now and 2024. We should see something happen. I thought it might be starting last Sunday. I don't want war, or to see this death and destruction. But we're headed for that punctiliar point in time. The hour, the day, the month, and the year. To kill a third of mankind. To us it just means that our Lord is near. Even standing at the very door. We lift up our heads. Yes, agreed. I do not want war, but it appears it's coming no matter what. I suspect this is the proverbial calm before the storm. I also suspect both sides (U.S./Israel and Hamas/Hezbollah/Iran) have backed themselves into a corner; they don't want full-scale war but can't slow the train down fast enough to prevent it cascading over the cliff. Despite all the threats and subsequent cooling off of both sides, I don't see how the genie is put back in the bottle. Israel has called home upwards of 400,000 Jews. Israelis have been evacuated from the south near Gaza and the north near Lebanon and Syria. Two US aircraft carriers, dozens of ships, dozens of planes. An actual declared war for the first time in 50 years. We're witnessing shaping operations. I suspect this war will run until the spring, and Bibi wasn't being facetious when he said it will change the face of the Middle East.
I agree that it's got to go to spring. But look how fast it flared up again. Spring feels like a long ways away. They can't keep a lid on it. Whatever Blinken was promising them, it's not working anymore. That hospital got hit in Gaza. 500 people killed. Many people had just been there to hide, they thought it would be safe. It wasn't the IDF that did it. It was Hamas's rocket that blew up and fell on the hospital.
And the protests are flaring up all over the world again, especially the middle east.
I think this is the beginning of something huge.
I think what we were looking at before with all that 1535 business was true. It's just that the last heptad that we're in now isn't like what we were expecting it to be.
I'm afraid we might be closer than most are realizing.
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Post by davewatchman on Oct 17, 2023 17:24:01 GMT -6
They don't believe it was a Hamas rocket that hit the hospital in Gaza.
They don't think Hamas has anything powerful enough to do that kind of damage.
There's protests all over the world again, too many to list.
But it's the embassy's that are the most violent ones. I would not want to be at an Israeli or an American Embassy over there.
Look at all the people headed for the U.S. Embassy in Lebanon.
And in Istanbul they are shooting fireworks at the Israeli Embassy.
Look at all the people there.
Some days it doesn't feel like we're gonna make it to the weekend.
On the news forums, some are saying Biden shouldn't fly into Israel at this time. But there's a picture of him climbing up in to air force one.
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Post by Dave on Oct 18, 2023 1:49:23 GMT -6
Showtime: t.me/moshegroup/50660Moshe, [10/17/2023 11:23 PM] If the Muslims are going to attack Israel today they will quiet until his planes land they the rockets will fly. Moshe, [10/17/2023 11:30 PM] Some years ago I did a study and came up with iron dome only able to knock down 25a5 of missiles. I think they improved it a bunch maybe got to a much higher level of effectiveness but it is not a perfect system. It would be real hard believe after recent events with so many missile falls. We also have to take into account the swarm attacks, lots of missiles arriving at same time,overwhelms the iron dome system as well, so I think both these factors are bearing down on our defenses at same time. In any case many missiles are getting through. I do not think any anti missile missile system anywhere in the world would out perform ours but these system just not perfect Moshe, [10/17/2023 11:40 PM] The Biden visit to Israel today could be big. The Muslims are furious. The blaming of the Hamas failed missile hitting a hospital in Gaza and blaming it on us is causing riots, protests,storming of Israel embassies. According to Muslim sharia law they have to believe the word of a Muslim over the word of an infidelity’s (non Muslim). So hamas testimony is going to be truth to them. If a Muslim majority country leader takes the word of Israel or America over hamas version of what happened he would be breaking Muslim law. The technical analysis of videos etc to prove it was hamas will be declared to be fake videos. So this day today can thrust the region into war.
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Post by bondservant on Oct 18, 2023 9:41:06 GMT -6
Embassy of Islamic Republic of Iran in Syria "time is up" Attachments:
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Post by davewatchman on Oct 20, 2023 12:02:50 GMT -6
Embassy of Islamic Republic of Iran in Syria "time is up"
I read somewhere they were doing 3 days of mourning.
But when this does let loose, it's going to be epic.
Check out this Egyptian woman arguing on the plight of the Palestinians:
Second part:
Look at her eyes, listen to the sound of the crowd. I can hear the ocean's roar.
It's interesting scrolling down that Arabic twitter channel. Getting a feel for some of the rage. If they are this mad now, when the IDF goes into Gaza it's going to be insane.
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Post by davewatchman on Oct 22, 2023 9:06:44 GMT -6
Here is a third part, the conclusion of that Egyptian woman yelling at the border crossing at a different angle:
And this is a Moshe audio from today. What he thinks the US aircraft carriers might do with Iran. He says the people of Iran were happier during the time of the Shaw in 1979. They sat outside in cafes drinking wine and coffee. They watched European and American movies while the women went to the beach with two piece swim suits. Lol.
He said God's moving the chess pieces around but we know how it's gonna end.
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Post by davewatchman on Oct 22, 2023 9:23:59 GMT -6
Iranian media, Tasmin: U.S. Army bases will be destroyed when Israel's ground operation against Gaza begins. For several days in a row, US bases in the Near East have been attacked by kamikaze drones.
China in the Mediterranean?
Huh?
Some say it has to start soon or they'll lose the window of opportunity. Various stories of loading up on lots of equipment. 3 x Boeing KC-135R Stratotankers coming from the US, to England, fuel up and on their way again. Aircraft carriers serving steak and lobster.
Statement From Secretary of Defense Lloyd J. Austin III on Steps to Increase Force Posture
Oct. 21, 2023
Following detailed discussions with President Biden on recent escalations by Iran and its proxy forces across the Middle East Region, today I directed a series of additional steps to further strengthen the Department of Defense posture in the region. These steps will bolster regional deterrence efforts, increase force protection for U.S. forces in the region, and assist in the defense of Israel.
First, I redirected the movement of the USS Dwight D. Eisenhower Carrier Strike Group to the Central Command area of responsibility. This carrier strike group is in addition to the USS Gerald R. Ford Carrier Strike Group, which is currently operating in the Eastern Mediterranean Sea. It will further increase our force posture and strengthen our capabilities and ability to respond to a range of contingencies.
I have also activated the deployment of a Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) battery as well as additional Patriot battalions to locations throughout the region to increase force protection for U.S. forces.
Finally, I have placed an additional number of forces on prepare to deploy orders as part of prudent contingency planning, to increase their readiness and ability to quickly respond as required.
I will continue to assess our force posture requirements in the region and consider deploying additional capabilities as necessary.
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Post by bondservant on Oct 23, 2023 8:55:23 GMT -6
Iranian media, Tasmin: U.S. Army bases will be destroyed when Israel's ground operation against Gaza begins. For several days in a row, US bases in the Near East have been attacked by kamikaze drones.
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Post by davewatchman on Oct 23, 2023 11:18:52 GMT -6
Iranian media, Tasmin: U.S. Army bases will be destroyed when Israel's ground operation against Gaza begins. For several days in a row, US bases in the Near East have been attacked by kamikaze drones.
I bet he's right to find it interesting.
There's a lot of interesting things happening. I took the week off to chop up some trees but can't get any work done.
The Russians are letting the Iranians use their base in Syria, that sounds interesting:
From Moshe's Telegram:
Above Possible reasons for delay
1) waiting for Eisenhower air craft carrier group to arrive
2) several nations flying special forces into Cyprus to get involved. Uk, `Germany, `Italy and others. Flight time from `Cyprus to Tel Avis is about one hour. This is probably for international hostage rescue effort, not negotiations.
3) giving America time to attempt hostage rescue in Gaza
4) Letting America try to negotiate hostage release if they are still barking up that tree which I doubt.
5) more time to soften up hamas with bombings and much needed special forces boots on the ground sneaky reconnaissance inside Gaza.
6) more time for Israel to crash course train returning Israelis from abroad who have not reported for reserve duty for many years.
7) more time to receive more military equipment from America and others.
8) more time for israel to round up terrorists inside israel.
"Nations flying special forces into Cyprus to get involved. Uk, `Germany, `Italy and others.
And that story of the Chinese sending six warships.
Are you kidding me?
What do the Chinese want with this?
And the people are putting Canada's Trudeau under pressure to support Palestine.
All of the King's of the earth can't avoid being drawn into this at this time.
They are being gathered against their will by forces stronger than themselves.
The great battle of God Almighty.
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Post by davewatchman on Oct 23, 2023 17:48:58 GMT -6
Too much war news. Like if I didn't think this had to do with the Biblical end times and the return of Jesus, I would be really worried. Stories of Iran attacking US military bases. Then Tucker interview, Looks like we're actually going to war with Iran. And unconfirmed reports of a US Navy Ship being hit in the Red Sea. Feels like a full moon, like people are going nuts.
Someone on the news forum said it might be a good idea to keep your gas tank full. Lol. Like that's the least of my worries. I'll just call in sick, or take stress leave.
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