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Post by uscgvet on Apr 25, 2021 19:07:40 GMT -6
Going by Luke 2
2 And it came to pass in those days, that there went out a decree from Caesar Augustus that all the world should be taxed.
2 (And this taxing was first made when Cyrenius was governor of Syria.)
3 And all went to be taxed, every one into his own city.
4 And Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, into Judaea, unto the city of David, which is called Bethlehem; (because he was of the house and lineage of David:)
5 To be taxed with Mary his espoused wife, being great with child.
6 And so it was, that, while they were there, the days were accomplished that she should be delivered.
7 And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger; because there was no room for them in the inn.
Daniel 11
20 Then shall stand up in his estate a raiser of taxes in the glory of the kingdom: but within few days he shall be destroyed, neither in anger, nor in battle.
21 And in his estate shall stand up a vile person, to whom they shall not give the honour of the kingdom: but he shall come in peaceably, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries.
So this raiser of taxes in Daniel won't have a long reign. And Caesar Augustus taxed the whole world.
Prophecy is pattern. And the next guy (a vile person) doesn't seem to have acquired the rulership legitimately. Fake election process?
We should see a global tax within the next 9-13 years or so.. if the 6000 year timeline of man's rule is to hold water.
Christ ascends into heaven around 30-34 AD... so around 2030-2034 AD for the 2nd time around.
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Post by Gary on Apr 26, 2021 13:36:45 GMT -6
Definitely wouldn't surprise me judging by how these patterns keep playing out. Then the Head, now the body. There's already a pretty significant push in that direction in terms of a global carbon tax. I think the IMF has called for a similar tax, as well.
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Post by uscgvet on Apr 26, 2021 20:13:57 GMT -6
You know... Isaiah 10 starts out with a government that creates new laws that were specifically designed to oppress the poor and needy. Then God uses the Assyrian to spoil this land, take prisoners, ABOLISH NATIONAL BOARDERS, etc. Then God himself destroys the Assyrian. Then the return of the remnant. Then Heaven all in Isaiah 10. Then Isaiah 11 goes into the 1000 year reign of Christ.
Paul, or whomever the writer of Hebrews makes an interesting note.
Hebrews 10:32-37
Prisoners, possessions spoiled, patience, wait for a better heavenly reward, expect the Lord's return soon.
These patterns in the OT meant for physical Israel also seem to align with the physical churches housed in Babylon.
I'm just sayin'... I think the entire OT is a complete prophecy of both the end times for Israel and at the same time, at a world level, the apostate church in Babylon...
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Post by uscgvet on Jun 9, 2021 6:36:33 GMT -6
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Post by inaweofhim on Jun 9, 2021 6:45:50 GMT -6
On the World Economic Forum site, they are discussing a global tax (weforum.org): titled "The Global Tax Agenda" After decades of a ‘race to the bottom’, major economies are now backing a global minimum tax estimated to bring in $100 billion in new revenue annually. How can international tax reform contribute to a more equitable economic recovery? |
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Post by uscgvet on Jun 9, 2021 6:53:28 GMT -6
On the World Economic Forum site, they are discussing a global tax (weforum.org): titled "The Global Tax Agenda" After decades of a ‘race to the bottom’, major economies are now backing a global minimum tax estimated to bring in $100 billion in new revenue annually. How can international tax reform contribute to a more equitable economic recovery? Found this URL on their site: Dated June 1, 2021 www.weforum.org/events/the-jobs-reset-summit-2021/sessions/a-new-global-tax-agendaAt the 3:45 minute mark, the speaker talks about a new "Global minimum Corporate Tax Rate". |
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Post by rondonmonson on Jun 9, 2021 11:32:07 GMT -6
Going by Luke 2 2 And it came to pass in those days, that there went out a decree from Caesar Augustus that all the world should be taxed.2 (And this taxing was first made when Cyrenius was governor of Syria.) 3 And all went to be taxed, every one into his own city. 4 And Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, into Judaea, unto the city of David, which is called Bethlehem; (because he was of the house and lineage of David:) 5 To be taxed with Mary his espoused wife, being great with child. 6 And so it was, that, while they were there, the days were accomplished that she should be delivered. 7 And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger; because there was no room for them in the inn. Daniel 11 20 Then shall stand up in his estate a raiser of taxes in the glory of the kingdom: but within few days he shall be destroyed, neither in anger, nor in battle. 21 And in his estate shall stand up a vile person, to whom they shall not give the honour of the kingdom: but he shall come in peaceably, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries. So this raiser of taxes in Daniel won't have a long reign. And Caesar Augustus taxed the whole world. Prophecy is pattern. And the next guy ( a vile person) doesn't seem to have acquired the rulership legitimately. Fake election process? We should see a global tax within the next 9-13 years or so.. if the 6000 year timeline of man's rule is to hold water. Christ ascends into heaven around 30-34 AD... so around 2030-2034 AD for the 2nd time around. I saw this a few days ago.................... news.yahoo.com/amazon-covered-global-tax-deal-180502996.html"Global policy makers are crafting their international tax plan to make sure Amazon.com Inc. is included, even though the U.S. company’s profit margin is below the 10% proposed threshold that would give other countries rights to collect revenue. Group of Seven finance ministers on Saturday voiced support for proposed rules reallocating a portion of profits above a 10% margin to be taxed in other countries, but Amazon has estimated a global operating margin of 7.1% this year. Two people familiar with the negotiations said Amazon will be included, with the particulars of how to design the policy to capture the company still being discussed." The first thing that hit me was, save his before they delete it. I don't think its worldwide, just as in those words above, it was called worldwide when Rome was the Beast, but they never ruled India nor China, Greece was said to have conquered all the earth, as was Nebuchadnezzar, but it really means all the land/earth spoken about, so its a little misleading. I think the land being spoken of in each case is of course Israel and the Mediterranean Sea Region. Don't get me wrong, I think that's their goal, but circumstances always gets in the way, Rome would have loved to conquer India and China as would have Alexander the Great, but it was not feasible. I think in the very end 1/3 of the world is destroyed by an asteroid impact, and that Satan understands this, and crafts a plan of attack around this, he knows God/Jesus is going to rule from Jerusalem, so this asteroid is going to hit on the other side of the world, naturally. So, I don't think Satan is going to try very hard to globalize that which he understands is not going to be there as an entity per se. 1/3 of the world is going to be devastated by a mountain cast into a sea. Rev. 8 says so. But these globalists don't know that, so it is in their plans, as shown above, a world tax, LOL, they don't even hide it any more. |
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Post by boraddict on Jun 9, 2021 19:46:48 GMT -6
uscgvet , In response to your 1st posting I propose that your timeline is to far out and that the following should be considered. 1) 23 Sept. 2017 (the great sign) to 23 Sept 2024 is seven years of plenty 2) "X" marks the spot with the 2024 eclipse over Little Egypt is a reference to the "type" of Joseph of Egypt and then it follows that the "shadow" of the seven years of plenty is followed by the seven years of tribulation 3) the 2024 presidential elections where Trump will be against Harris and that the Shadow Government will not allow Trump to take office. 4) the Edras Eagle Prophecy (not scripture ?) shows that Harris is the last president and that the Shadow Government is in charge from that point onward. The above four items lead me to believe that 2024 is our magic number; wherein the tribulation begins.
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Post by uscgvet on Jun 9, 2021 20:08:52 GMT -6
boraddict, Yea, I was just being conservative. One thing that keeps lingering in the back of my mind is the prayer that King Hezekiah wrote which resulted in God granting him an additional 15 year "stay of execution" so to speak. I added that timeframe past AD 30 + 2000 years and shaved off some years for the 7 year Trib. It's all approximations anyway. We don't really know if our calendar is correct, and how far off we are. But, as you rightfully pointed out, the 2017 Rev 12 sign is a pretty good indicator to use with the solar eclipse "X" over little Egypt. 7 year feast & 7 year famine. Also, I've seen some interesting YT videos point out that Christ may have risen in 28 AD. If we subtract the 7 year Trib from 2028 AD, that places it in 2021. My goal is to keep searching for indicators in the OT that are more specific, like the Daniel 11:20 "raiser of taxes" to help us gauge where or how close we really are to the end. A world tax is pretty specific. It's not like earthquakes and wars and rumors of wars.
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Post by boraddict on Jun 9, 2021 22:48:26 GMT -6
uscgvet , we are right on top of this thing. To the Savior another 15 years is no big deal but to us it is forever. I do tend to agree with venge that the saints will enter into the 7 years and be subject to the beast; although, JD is a pre-triber and supports otherwise. But if you think about it, the pre-trib doctrine has been accepted for so long that moving away from it is akin to blasphemy; the doctrine is almost bedrock. What is for sure is that the saints are taken somewhere but not necessarily off the planet, and not pre-trib, IMO. After all, Rev. 7:14 and Rev. 14:4 tells us that the saints are taken from the great tribulation and redeemed from among men. And Chapter 19 shows a period of time that the saints are gathered just prior to the marriage. So it seems that after the onset of the tribulation but prior to the marriage the saints are taken to a place here upon the earth. Not enraptured mind you, but gathered together and then later taken off the planet in the rapture just prior to the final destruction as referenced at Rev. 16:21. The tax that you have referenced is a true marker that seems to be taking place now or setting the foundation for. It must be in place prior to the 2024 elections because Trump will not allow it, and his interference will be blocked IMO. Post Script: I forgot to mention that Hezekiah was a Davidic King making a payment in pain and suffering via the Davidic Covenant. So the 15 year extension he received pertained to the life he was giving for his people under the terms of that covenant. Since Christ is our Eternal King from which the terms of the Davidic King is typified, then the life extension to him under the terms of the covenant is eternal with one small caveat; that a Davidic King life extension is temporal. They must still die a permanent physical death; until the resurrection. That is, like Christ who died a permanent physical death until he took up his body again after three days, Hezekiah died a permanent physical death and must await the resurrection wherein Christ will restore life to Hezekiah's body. Afterwards, Hezekiah will forever be dependent upon Christ for salvation and without Lord Jesus there is no salvation. This is a doctrine that reveals the fallacy of the LDS having children after this lifetime. They believe that after they are resurrected then those married individuals can have children like gods. However, since we are forever dependent upon Christ and can never exist for one moment in a resurrected state without him then we are never independent to create life. That is, all life comes from Christ and no one can ever independently create life. Therefore, there will never be a time that anyone can create life on their own as is believed by the LDS. All life comes from Jesus. Back to the Davidic King and the covenant surrounding that concept. Such a king can make a payment for their people via pain and suffering and then receive an extension to their temporal life but then must die the physical death like Hezekiah's example. Such a king can be found in my opinion at John 21:23. If I am correct then the pain and suffering had to be at Patmos (Rev. 1:9) or before. So what is that to us; that his people are protected under his payment per the terms of the Davidic Covenant. If the application is to our time then who are his people but those described in The Book of Revelation.
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Post by mike on Jun 10, 2021 7:17:20 GMT -6
uscgvet , In response to your 1st posting I propose that your timeline is to far out and that the following should be considered. 1) 23 Sept. 2017 (the great sign) to 23 Sept 2024 is seven years of plenty 2) "X" marks the spot with the 2024 eclipse over Little Egypt is a reference to the "type" of Joseph of Egypt and then it follows that the "shadow" of the seven years of plenty is followed by the seven years of tribulation 3) the 2024 presidential elections where Trump will be against Harris and that the Shadow Government will not allow Trump to take office. 4) the Edras Eagle Prophecy (not scripture ?) shows that Harris is the last president and that the Shadow Government is in charge from that point onward. The above four items lead me to believe that 2024 is our magic number; wherein the tribulation begins. Third times a charm...Ive been trying to post this and this is the third round...If it doesnt take now then... I did not want to post here as to further take this thread off topic, however I would like to point out that the dates you've inserted are simply arbitrary. Biblically we should be applying 360 day calendar years to any calculation we endeavor to search. For example the precision of the prophecy of the 70 years in exile in Babylon was fulfilled to the day. The fulfillment of the Triumphal Entry was also to the day. Both examples of precision in dates as God spoke it, He completed it TO THE DAY. Not to mention those other fulfillments that occurred on the very feast days the shadow/type pointed to. Sept 23, 2017 plus 7 biblical years would land you on Aug 17, 2024. Inserting that April 8, 2024 is 7 years from anything is not precise as God would show us historically. Is there a possibility of 9/23/17 and/or 4/8/24 meaning something? Possible but we havent been able to observe this yet. Point being here is the precision...I have been blessed by a series from Dr Chuck Missler on Leviticus. I wont post the whole video but start it at about 47 minutes. The first minute is just a reminder on how we ought to live. I enjoy reminders like this as they cause me to pause, reflect and consider my steps. But the point I want to show you (and others of course) is the precision to which God operates. Please take roughly 5 minutes to listen to the calculations in the video. They are tied to the Jews and the Sabbaths whereby they defiled the land/did not give it the rest they were instructed to. |
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Post by uscgvet on Jun 10, 2021 9:14:20 GMT -6
mike, Interesting stuff! I hadn't seen that Chuck vid. He still approximates those begin dates for his later year findings but I like it. And I agree: "Biblically we should be applying 360 day calendar years to any calculation we endeavor to search."
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Post by mike on Jun 10, 2021 10:54:34 GMT -6
mike , Interesting stuff! I hadn't seen that Chuck vid. He still approximates those begin dates for his later year findings but I like it. And I agree: "Biblically we should be applying 360 day calendar years to any calculation we endeavor to search." VET - The whole series is excellent IMO...As is his on Jude, James, etc. Highly recommend and there's very little bones  |
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Post by uscgvet on Jun 13, 2021 16:26:47 GMT -6
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Post by rondonmonson on Jun 14, 2021 8:37:09 GMT -6
The reason I find these things is I venture into their territory, they don't even understand what's going on, so they are open about it. If we only look at discussion among Christian brothers, we miss these things. (What's the old saying "Keep your enemies closer" Satan is our enemy, so I venture into his media territory) For instance, the E.U. currently has 7 year agreements with Israel and every nation in the Mediterranean Sea Region under the guise European Neighborhood Policy, its on Wikipedia. It shows the deals ran from 2007-2013 and from 2014-2020. The E.U. spent 15 billion Euros over that time, making sure these nations are attached unto them via what I like to call "tentacles of conditions" where they slowly reel you in to their conditioning strategies via monies. Then we look at who the Anti-Christ conquers in Dan. 11:40-43 and its the same players they have agreements with now (covenant in Hebrew simply means Agreement). And the Covenant or Agreement in Dan. 9:27 is with MANY, and he destroys MANY by Peace (Dan. 8:25) and in Dan. 11:40-43 is says he conquers MANY COUNTRIES, not just Israel. And also in Dan. 9:27 it says he CONFIRMS a covenant, the word used there actually means he insolently makes them agree to his terms if one looks up the root word, "GABAR" to prevail, to be strong, or to act insolently. This is no way to bring forth an Agreement of nations, thus I think the ties that bind are already in the coffers so to speak, and this man simply says. you have to do this, this and this if you want to continue being a partner of the E.U.in trade, getting this seed money, getting our protective covering etc. etc. and I think giving up their nukes is one of these demands. Ever heard of this? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Neighbourhood_PolicyI keep an eye out on all these things. Its kinda what I do. (LOL) P.S. Notice when you put the orange and blue together, then google Roman Empire Map, they look almost identical !! |
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