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Post by nana on Jul 17, 2020 14:15:11 GMT -6
been keeping an eye on this topic in bold a little bit... however, how does this line up with what BrazenLaver , has posted recently here on page three with his top 10 tweet list, etc, and the info of the star of David? Who is the guy in the picture with the two boufonts? You may want to google or search the star of remphan lots of pictures on line. |
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Post by barbiosheepgirl on Jul 17, 2020 16:45:22 GMT -6
nana, I googled it. DOes not answer my question though. It seems like a really bad thing, this star. What is a Christian supposed to do with this information?
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Post by mike on Jul 17, 2020 17:41:59 GMT -6
nana , I googled it. DOes not answer my question though. It seems like a really bad thing, this star. What is a Christian supposed to do with this information? Read from Acts 6:8 through 7:60. Stephen is recounting history from Abraham to Jesus building to a Holy Ghost rebuke of their idolatry. He specifically names Rephan 43 You took up the tent of Moloch
and the star of your god Rephan,
the images that you made to worship;
and I will send you into exile beyond Babylon.’ This Star of David is that star |
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Post by barbiosheepgirl on Jul 17, 2020 18:51:58 GMT -6
mike, yes, but what does a Christian do with that information today?
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Post by mike on Jul 17, 2020 19:58:25 GMT -6
There are many Christians enamoured with Israel. The land is the Lords and He chose the people of Israel to be the stewards. Ps 105:44 And gave them the lands of the heathen: and they inherited the labour of the people; 45 That they might observe his statutes, and keep his laws. Praise ye the LORD
Why did He give them the land?
8 He hath remembered his covenant for ever, the word which he commanded to a thousand generations. 9 Which covenant he made with Abraham, and his oath unto Isaac;
10 And confirmed the same unto Jacob for a law, and to Israel for an everlasting covenant:
11 Saying, Unto thee will I give the land of Canaan, the lot of your inheritance:For how long? Deut 29Read that chapter! Moses reaffirms the covenant my emphasis on this: 22 So that the generation to come of your children that shall rise up after you, and the stranger that shall come from a far land, shall say, when they see the plagues of that land, and the sicknesses which the LORD hath laid upon it;Christians today support the land covenant and at times may go a little too far in their support of the Israeli govt (flag) and their ways. Their flag is a tribute to Rephan. Make no mistake the people living in Israel are as abominable as we are in the US.
Deut 4:40 Therefore you shall keep his statutes and his commandments, which I command you today, that it may go well with you and with your children after you, and that you may prolong your days in the land that the LORD your God is giving you for all time.”Stephen condemns them in Acts 6-7 of worshipping idols. What they did in the land back then has continued. The alters to Baal & Ashteroh continue today. This evil is unseen is the point of this thread but is coming into light. Rhetorical question - do you think the prolonging of the people in the land of Israel is due for shaking? Are they keeping his statutes and commands? |
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Post by nana on Jul 18, 2020 7:24:53 GMT -6
nana , I googled it. DOes not answer my question though. It seems like a really bad thing, this star. What is a Christian supposed to do with this information? Mike explained a lot, thank you Mike. Want to add there are those who claim to be Jews but are not as Rev 2:9 and Rev 3:9 who are in the higher levels of government, businesses and hold a lot of control in both Israel and America. Many of those fake Jews use anti-semetics for control and to advance their agenda. |
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Post by venge on Jul 18, 2020 10:24:44 GMT -6
nana , I googled it. DOes not answer my question though. It seems like a really bad thing, this star. What is a Christian supposed to do with this information? Mike explained a lot, thank you Mike. Want to add there are those who claim to be Jews but are not as Rev 2:9 and Rev 3:9 who are in the higher levels of government, businesses and hold a lot of control in both Israel and America. Many of those fake Jews use anti-semetics for control and to advance their agenda. Does the verses that describe you who claim you are a Jew and are not....is that describing a literal Jew (by blood or one that practices Judaism) and is really not or is it referring to the matter of the heart? One who is a Jew inwardly but really is a ravaging wolf and claims they are a Jew/Christian? makes me think of Matthew 7 and that its an inward thing of the heart IMO. Obviously, these men who claimed to be believers, Jew's of the heart, were not and lied and were false. |
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Post by mike on Jul 18, 2020 10:42:25 GMT -6
Hey venge, just my $0.02 - I think both are something to consider. Its extremely difficult to determine bloodline Jew even though people may claim they are. So much mingling of DNA over the 2000 yrs, especially during their exile I doubt we can be sure. But that doesnt mean those claiming to be Jews, living in the are not or may not be Jews. We just dont know.
If they are in fact Jews, then many are not living as such.
This really ties to the spirit aspect IMO. Those who may be Jews still reject the Savior, which as you indicate would tie with Matt 7
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Post by BrazenLaver on Jul 18, 2020 11:43:29 GMT -6
 2 Thessalonians 2:10-12 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.  Genesis 37:18-20 And when they saw him afar off, even before he came near unto them, they conspired against him to slay him. 19 And they said one to another, Behold, this dreamer cometh. 20 Come now therefore, and let us slay him, and cast him into some pit, and we will say, Some evil beast hath devoured him: and we shall see what will become of his dreams.      Luke 12:3 Therefore whatsoever ye have spoken in darkness shall be heard in the light; and that which ye have spoken in the ear in closets shall be proclaimed upon the housetops.  |
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Post by nana on Jul 18, 2020 15:05:31 GMT -6
Mike explained a lot, thank you Mike. Want to add there are those who claim to be Jews but are not as Rev 2:9 and Rev 3:9 who are in the higher levels of government, businesses and hold a lot of control in both Israel and America. Many of those fake Jews use anti-semetics for control and to advance their agenda. Does the verses that describe you who claim you are a Jew and are not....is that describing a literal Jew (by blood or one that practices Judaism) and is really not or is it referring to the matter of the heart? One who is a Jew inwardly but really is a ravaging wolf and claims they are a Jew/Christian? makes me think of Matthew 7 and that its an inward thing of the heart IMO. Obviously, these men who claimed to be believers, Jew's of the heart, were not and lied and were false. There are some who hide behind the auspice of being jewish who are not whether by blood or religion. They use this to advance their agenda... That is the only way I know how to say it. |
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Post by BrazenLaver on Jul 18, 2020 18:09:15 GMT -6
Leviticus 20:4-6 And if the people of the land do any ways hide their eyes from the man, when he giveth of his seed unto Molech, and kill him not: 5 Then I will set my face against that man, and against his family, and will cut him off, and all that go a whoring after him, to commit whoredom with Molech, from among their people. 6 And the soul that turneth after such as have familiar spirits, and after wizards, to go a whoring after them, I will even set my face against that soul, and will cut him off from among his people.     Deuteronomy 14:7 Nevertheless these ye shall not eat of them that chew the cud, or of them that divide the cloven hoof; as the camel, and the hare, and the coney: for they chew the cud, but divide not the hoof; therefore they are unclean unto you.  Revelation 2:20-23 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols. 21 And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not. 22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds. 23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works. ![]() Warning sick and graphic language.  Revelation 17:5 And upon her forehead was a name written, Mystery, Babylon The Great, The Mother Of Harlots And Abominations Of The Earth. Revelation 17:16 ...these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.  |
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Post by mike on Jul 18, 2020 18:35:14 GMT -6
Jer 7:31 And they have built the high places of Tophet, which is in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire; which I commanded them not, neither came it into my heart.
Jer 19:2 And go forth unto the valley of the son of Hinnom, which is by the entry of the east gate, and proclaim there the words that I shall tell thee, 3 And say, Hear ye the word of the LORD, O kings of Judah, and inhabitants of Jerusalem; Thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel; Behold, I will bring evil upon this place, the which whosoever heareth, his ears shall tingle. 4 Because they have forsaken me, and have estranged this place, and have burned incense in it unto other gods, whom neither they nor their fathers have known, nor the kings of Judah, and have filled this place with the blood of innocents; they have built also the high places of Baal, to burn their sons with fire for burnt offerings unto Baal, which I commanded not, nor spake it, neither came it into my mind:
Jer 32:35 And they built the high places of Baal, which are in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to cause their sons and their daughters to pass through the fire unto Molech; which I commanded them not, neither came it into my mind, that they should do this abomination, to cause Judah to sin.
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Post by mike on Jul 18, 2020 18:49:05 GMT -6
Josh 18:16 And the border came down to the end of the mountain that lieth before the valley of the son of Hinnom, and which is in the valley of the giants on the north, and descended to the valley of Hinnom, to the side of Jebusi on the south, and descended to Enrogel,This version gave me a chuckleJer 2:23 You deny your sins and say, "We aren't unclean. We haven't worshiped Baal." But think about what you do in Hinnom Valley. You run back and forth like young camels, as you rush to worship one idol after another.20 Long ago you left me and broke all ties between us, refusing to be my servant. Now you worship other gods by having sex on hilltops or in the shade of large trees. 21 You were a choice grapevine, but you have become a wild, useless vine. 22The LORD said: people of Israel, you are stained with guilt, and no soap or bleach can wash it away.
Hinnom Valley
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Post by mc on Jul 18, 2020 20:12:01 GMT -6
I watched this Chuck Missler teaching this morning which goes a long way towards explaining the idea of the true Jew/false Jew.
As usual, it's an excellent teaching.
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Post by Gary on Jul 18, 2020 21:04:49 GMT -6
whatif, Mike beat me to the punch, but I was going to suggest the same: Jaco from God's Roadmap to the End. He's done a whole series on I Pet Goat 2.
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