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Post by r33ce99 on May 1, 2020 3:32:32 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2020 6:09:14 GMT -6
Thanks for posting this. Indeed a very interesting summary.
The 5G connection is sth I also suspected since months and have heard of. It's hard to grasp for technical uninterested or uneducated people, but if one knows about physical effects like resonance and the like, it makes much sense.
I also found out, that in Germany in the worst Corona affected area in the beginning there were also some pilot projects running with 5G and maybe in exactly the frequency range of around 60GHz. This was also true in Italy in one of the most affected regions.
5G operates in several freq ranges, starting from around 3GHz here in EU, thats where todays smartphones (I call them dumbphones btw) operate.
The higher frequencies are still subject to tests and no reliable studies about the influence of this type of electromagnetic radiation on human cells was really done.
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Post by venge on May 1, 2020 7:28:36 GMT -6
That site is....I don't even know what word describes it. I would not call it Christian Evidence but perhaps call it various Christian Evidence Opinions. One part, the site says: So they are date setting the rapture at 2021, next year. Guess we will wait and see. Then they add a theory of Babylon. The writer continues in his belief that a literal Babylon based off the ruins of ancient Babylon will be built: Well, if the rapture is in 2021, next year...and Babylon is not rebuilt yet nor are people living there really...I wonder how that plays out. Does this verse they provide even prove a literal Babylon.../sigh Then the site goes on to describe other ideas such as: Really? How did we get from God's perfect plan for human kind: our saving grace, blessed hope, loving God and savior to this ? No sir, its not strange that John compares evil spirits as frogs because frogs were ceremonial unclean. And a spirit described as a frog demonstrates that person wickedness and separation from God. A study of the OT, Leviticus and Numbers, would show that to you. This site is not Christian evidence. Its a site meant to draw Christians in so that it can confuse them. Study the Bible, a workman that needed not to be ashamed..rightly dividing the word of truth. |
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Post by mike on May 1, 2020 8:00:33 GMT -6
r33ce99 - I see this is your second post but you have been a member for a bit - in either case welcome As Venge is indicating, I'll insert my general opinion on the article. Since prophecy is yet to be fulfilled, we should exercise caution when convincing ourselves that we have the interpretation accruate. Things are ok to consider as possibilities, but we shouldnt insert our understanding of things as factual, rather allow scripture to interpret what we see. (not saying you specifically r33ce99 - rather the article seems to do this) EDIT - @reepicheep Do you have better understanding of this? I have a big goose-egg and would love to hear your take if you do
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2020 10:43:44 GMT -6
r33ce99 - I see this is your second post but you have been a member for a bit - in either case welcome As Venge is indicating, I'll insert my general opinion on the article. Since prophecy is yet to be fulfilled, we should exercise caution when convincing ourselves that we have the interpretation accruate. Things are ok to consider as possibilities, but we shouldnt insert our understanding of things as factual, rather allow scripture to interpret what we see. (not saying you specifically r33ce99 - rather the article seems to do this) EDIT - @reepicheep Do you have better understanding of this? I have a big goose-egg and would love to hear your take if you do
I'm surely not qualified to talk about medical implications, as I'm no doctor....
But I know very well that e.g. as also mentioned in their paper, the O2 molecule absorbs very much of the energy when exposed to millimeter radio waves with a frequency of 60GHz (you can find this information elsewhere on the internet). Microwave ovens use the same physical effect to heat food.
Other molecules as can be found in human cells like ribonucleic acids may react in similar ways at other frequencies.
There are no reliable long-term studies in re to this available, because this technology is only used in military areas (radar) but not in the broad public, especially when it comes to higher frequencies (> 30GHz).
A friend of mine who serves as a highly respected doctor at a university hospital and is doing much research in several areas, tens of years ago warned of the possibility of contracting diseases e.g. cancer due to the increased use of mobile phones...
I would at least keep it in the back of the head, that it might be possible to affect human cells (and maybe even viruses  ) with electromagnetic waves. The human body is way more complex than most people think. It's symptomatic for today, that man thinks he knows everything, can do everything and replacing God. Just my 0.01 bucks....
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Post by stormyknight on May 1, 2020 11:06:44 GMT -6
What @reepicheep, is referring to has been known for almost 100 years now, so the advances in that field are surely to levels of what we might call biblical proportion.
"And the second beast performed great signs to cause even fire from heaven to come down to earth in the presence of the people." Rev. 13:13
Here is a nice little rabbit hole to go down if anyone wants to take the time. The article is on Nikola Tesla's "Earthquake Machine".
Call me a quack or a conspiracy theorist if you want, I no longer care, but I'm convinced 9/11/2001 happened with this sort of technology, the planes were just a diversion or catalyst. If one views the video footage towards the end when the towers fall, you will see standing steel disintegrate into dust and it is steel that was no where near the fires. I would also include the fires in California, Canada, and more recently in Australia to this same technology. I'm thinking they are just getting it perfected for when the AC can call it down on anywhere he chooses, just like so many evil villains have done in so many sci-fi or spy movies for decades.
I always got a big kick out this line from the James Bond movie, "Diamonds are Forever", you only need watch the first 12 seconds to see why! hahaha
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Post by mike on May 1, 2020 12:46:54 GMT -6
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Post by disciple4life on May 2, 2020 6:08:00 GMT -6
Hey Mike, Stormy, mike you might also have a tinfoil hat. There are even rumors that a few people are making pristine replicas at home. [Not saying you specifically]. Stormy, we must have been separated at birth, my brother. The rally bizarre thing is that in any church, or business or gathering of 100 educated Christians, you will find at least 20-30 that believe A. That 9-11 was really just a well-planned attack by 13 Muslims with box-cutters, B. Friday crucifixion AND Palm Sunday myth, and C. That Palestinians are real. Despite mountains of research, history and hundreds of scientists, engineers, theologians and scholars from around the world. Mind-numbing. While venge is correct about frogs being unclean, as watchmen , we would be very foolish to ignore the systematic incrementalism and huge increase of UFO/ paranormal information deluge. We have seen at least 3 decades of alien movies and tv series exclusively dedicated to alien encounters, abductions, communication, and contact [this all in conjunction with pilots and astronauts "coming clean" years later confirming hidden, classified sightings] and the whole Area 51, Roswell secret research facility. The only explanation that even remotely begins to explain the instant disappearance of say 70,000,000 people around the world and babies, [besides the rapture] is massive a Alien abduction event. The curren virus hysteria Plandemic by comparison will look like a gnat hiccup. Disciple4Life |
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Post by venge on May 2, 2020 6:26:32 GMT -6
D4L, Humor me some. Just another possible example of us w/o aliens: What if the rapture takes place after a departure/falling away? Christians were killed, others won’t be changed because they departed truth and all that’s left and remain on the planet is not 70,000,000 but say 100,000. With so many killed and others that left the faith - in this scenario does the figure need to be high and noticed? I don’t think it does. The 2 witnesses are noticed....that’s an important clue, but the still alive and taken aren’t mentioned as being seen or missed. Remember the question asked? When Christ comes back, will he find faith on the earth? Btw, I recognize the alien theory would provide a detour/excuse from reality if many go missing. But I feel something would be mentioned if that were so. EDIT: Forgot to add, disciple4life, you are up EARLY today lol |
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Post by disciple4life on May 3, 2020 9:20:15 GMT -6
Yes, venge, the point about the explanation of the rapture being most surely an alien abduction is as you say - Of course it's a ruse. A red herring. A distraction, because everyone knows that no government leaders, will actually admit that it was the rapture, even though thousands of those in England, Scotland, Ireland, USA, Canada, and other places will know it was, because they heard about it - even if only as a child from their Crazy aunt Clara, or Grandma Maria. I didn't understand a few of your questions. points. You said "The 2 witnesses are noticed....that’s an important clue, but the still alive and taken aren’t mentioned as being seen or missed." If they are raptured, they wouldn't be 'seen' because they are not here. they are taken. It also doesn't explicitly mention that people would notice millions of graves of dead saints through the millennium being a "world-wide mass freak out event" either. Nor does scripture mention the tens of millions of aborted babies missing either. I do agree that the number of those raptured will be much lower than the number often given of Evangelicals worldwide, by Christian agencies like Operation World, etc. For one being the apostasy - falling away from the faith, but also, millions of those in America are socially/ cultural Christians, - in that they are religious and may have a membership at 3rd Apostate Episcopal or 1st Lutheran social club. I was also confused as what event you are referring to where so many Christians are killed? Do you mean after the rapture, and then these would be Tribulation saints, martyred for their faith/ and or those who don't accept the mark of the Beast. That's why I put 70,000,000 - not the number listed of worldwide evangelicals, which is closer to 100,000, but I think it could easily be more like 20 or 30 million worldwide. But it doesn't matter. Just think of the millions of babies all disappearing across the world, especially in Muslim and Hindu countries where Christians are persecuted and hard to track. That's why I said that the panic and hysteria and sheer terror of this - 30,000,000 people all disappearing around the world at one instant, will cause a tidal wave of hysteria and terror, that will make the chaos of this current virus look like a gnat hiccup in comparison. I also think that with the thousands of journalists and preachers left behind, - it will take a maximum of a few days to make the connection that it was the Christians who are missing. No Buddhists missing, no Mormons instantly disappeared. No Hindus, only the babies. No atheists suddenly missing. There are professional profilers and psychologists and analysts all across the world, who instantly start brainstorming when there is a mass shooting, or terror bombing. The thing about this- the rapture vs plague/ Plandemic is that disease doesn't make anyone instantly disappear, nor does it target people based on religion. Disciple4life |
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Post by venge on May 3, 2020 12:58:02 GMT -6
Yes, venge , the point about the explanation of the rapture being most surely an alien abduction is as you say - Of course it's a ruse. A red herring. A distraction, because everyone knows that no government leaders, will actually admit that it was the rapture, even though thousands of those in England, Scotland, Ireland, USA, Canada, and other places will know it was, because they heard about it - even if only as a child from their Crazy aunt Clara, or Grandma Maria. I didn't understand a few of your questions. points. You said "The 2 witnesses are noticed....that’s an important clue, but the still alive and taken aren’t mentioned as being seen or missed." If they are raptured, they wouldn't be 'seen' because they are not here. they are taken. It also doesn't explicitly mention that people would notice millions of graves of dead saints through the millennium being a "world-wide mass freak out event" either. Nor does scripture mention the tens of millions of aborted babies missing either. I do agree that the number of those raptured will be much lower than the number often given of Evangelicals worldwide, by Christian agencies like Operation World, etc. For one being the apostasy - falling away from the faith, but also, millions of those in America are socially/ cultural Christians, - in that they are religious and may have a membership at 3rd Apostate Episcopal or 1st Lutheran social club. I was also confused as what event you are referring to where so many Christians are killed? Do you mean after the rapture, and then these would be Tribulation saints, martyred for their faith/ and or those who don't accept the mark of the Beast. That's why I put 70,000,000 - not the number listed of worldwide evangelicals, which is closer to 100,000, but I think it could easily be more like 20 or 30 million worldwide. But it doesn't matter. Just think of the millions of babies all disappearing across the world, especially in Muslim and Hindu countries where Christians are persecuted and hard to track. That's why I said that the panic and hysteria and sheer terror of this - 30,000,000 people all disappearing around the world at one instant, will cause a tidal wave of hysteria and terror, that will make the chaos of this current virus look like a gnat hiccup in comparison. I also think that with the thousands of journalists and preachers left behind, - it will take a maximum of a few days to make the connection that it was the Christians who are missing. No Buddhists missing, no Mormons instantly disappeared. No Hindus, only the babies. No atheists suddenly missing. There are professional profilers and psychologists and analysts all across the world, who instantly start brainstorming when there is a mass shooting, or terror bombing. The thing about this- the rapture vs plague/ Plandemic is that disease doesn't make anyone instantly disappear, nor does it target people based on religion. Disciple4life In reply, I had mentioned the alive and those that remain as not being seen or missed at that time period of the 2 witnesses. I was saying it hadnt happened yet or it would have been mentioned earlier. I meant before the rapture, Christians would be killed. |
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Post by andrew on May 3, 2020 17:15:09 GMT -6
Lot's of people seem to be thinking along those lines this weekend.
I was wondering while watching this if the reason the Thessalonians began to believe they had missed the rapture was from confusing the ascension. Di some who witnessed the event mistakenly believe it was the rapture? Did the dead who rose from the grave with Jesus return with Him that day?
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Post by mike on May 4, 2020 10:54:00 GMT -6
disciple4life, Is there biblical evidence that at the rapture graves would open? Without knowing that graves open, we cannot assume that anyone would or could notice if we arent certain. Just wondering if I am missing something.
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Post by Natalie on May 4, 2020 11:01:16 GMT -6
mike, check out Is 26:19 in different translations. Maybe that's where the idea comes from.
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Post by mike on May 4, 2020 11:58:30 GMT -6
mike , check out Is 26:19 in different translations. Maybe that's where the idea comes from. Right! Daniel 12:2 has similar text |
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