Post by yardstick on Apr 5, 2020 22:21:30 GMT -6
yardstick , I have read and studied a fair bit on the reformation, but don't know anything about the counter-reformation?
Could you elaborate a bit more. ?
I know that there are indeed some parallels - some things that we share with Catholics, and I know that there is a growing "Catholic Renewal Movement- in Poland and other countries. [Believe in Salvation by grace through faith in Christ, and don't pray to Mary or other saints, and believe in the person and work of the Holy Spirit. But this is a very very small minority.
From all my experience, there are indeed Catholics who read the Bible and are very moral people, who try to follow Christ, but who are deluded.
In many countries like Mexico, or Ireland, or Italy or Poland, it's all they have known for 15 generations - It's the default setting. Many Poles have never met a single Evangelical, there are hundreds of small towns and villages where there is not a single Evangelical church.
In other cities - the only other option besides Catholic is Jehovah's witness.
I would be very interested to hear/ learn more, yardstick about the counter-reformation. As to the long history of hatred of Jews, this literally goes back thousands of years, because they blamed the Jews for Christ's death.
Ironic, really - when the Catholic church is the False Prophet, and it's so sad and mind-numbing to think about how many Protestant pastors have had formal training and years of seminary and yet still continue to accept and teach Catholic myths and man's tradition over scripture.
I must say, we stand on the shoulders of great men and women of faith who came before us and they didn't have a monopoly on truth, nor did they have all the answers or all the pieces on end times - I really like what Pastor Steve Chiccolanti said, - "We should glean all we can from them, and don't demonize them because they didn't get every part right. We learn from each other, and then pass that on to others.
Just because the person doesn't have everything correct, it doesn't make them a false prophet."
We need to be like the Bereans and study the scriptures to see that these things are true.
Chuck Missler may have simply misspoke - need to give him the benefit of the doubt. He said "that six days before Passover - Jesus went from Bethany to Jericho."
This is very strange and there's nothing in this passage anywhere that says Jesus or the disciples were in Jericho. They were in Bethany and Jerusalem and just after Jesus raised Lazarus, he and the disciples went to Ephriam, a small town in the dessert, about 14 miles from Jerusalem, and Jericho was about 25 Kilometers, or about 15 Miles.
The point being, that whether we are talking about Bethany, or Ephraim, or Jericho, the distance between these places was much too far to be allowed on a Sabbath, and even if you use Jewish inclusive counting, it makes the triumphal entry on a Monday.
As Occam's razor states - the simplest answer is usually the correct one. Friday crucifixion was impossible. This myth all came about because of the deep hatred of the Jewish people, and the deliberate attempt to separate the Resurrection from Passover.
Best quote of the week for me was today, in a streamed sermon - and it reminded me of the Catholic church and how they didn't recognize that their own sins - all mankind's sins nailed Jesus to the Tree.
"Before we can look at the Cross as something done for us - we need to look at the Cross as something done by us"
There are still a lot of theological points made in protestant denominations today that are fundamentally the same as catholic doctrine.