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Post by Gary on May 31, 2017 8:58:00 GMT -6
9/22 does seem like a good time. Immediately before the sign on 9/23. The sign portrays labor pains (Revelation 12:1-2), but the corporate male child born in Isaiah 66 is born before labor pains. 9/21 would be a good time, too.
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Post by whatif on May 31, 2017 9:42:53 GMT -6
Tell us more, brad! This is amazing!
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2017 9:59:20 GMT -6
I could so see this!!!! Wonderful Brad! Thank you for being obedient that he would share it with you and thank you for sharing it with us! I am so grateful you were led here!!!!!
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Post by 888 on Jun 1, 2017 6:31:10 GMT -6
Brilliant stuff on Jupiter and asteroid Vesta Brad!
You said:
Many of us (myself included) are looking for an exact date fulfillment of the fall feasts:
Feast of Trumpets…. Rapture
Feast of Atonement… Second Coming
Feast of Tabernacles… Beginning of the Millennium Reign
We know that Jesus has already fulfilled the Jewish Spring Festivals exactly on the dates at his 1st coming:
1. Pesach (Passover) - Crucifixion;
2. Feast of Unleavened Bread - Death;
3. Feast of the First Fruits - Resurrection;
4. Pentecost - Outpouring of the Holy Spirit.
The next ones, the Fall Feasts (will most likely) be fulfilled at his 2nd coming:
5. Feast of Trumpets;
6. Feast of Atonement;
7. Feast of Tabernacles.
This is where it get's interesting...
The Feast of Trumpets ie Rosh Hashanah (The Jewish New Year) will fall this year on Sep 21-22 2017, so the holiday begins at sundown on Sep 20 (and with the first sighting of the new moon), and ends at nightfall on Sep 22 .
Rosh Hashanah (Hebrew: רֹאשׁ הַשָּׁנָה, literally meaning the "beginning (also head) [of] the year") is the Jewish New Year. The biblical name for this holiday is Yom Teruah (יוֹם תְּרוּעָה), literally "day [of] shouting/blasting", sometimes translated as the Feast of Trumpets.
This will be the end of Jewish year 5777 and the start of 5778. The number 7 denotes completion / fulfilment and the number 8 denotes a new beginning / resurrection according to Hebrew Gematria.
These two days of the Feast of Trumpets, are also Holy / Sabbath Days.
Lev 23:23-25
FEAST OF TRUMPETS
23. Then the Lord spoke to Moses, saying,
24. "Speak to the children of Israel, saying: 'In the seventh month, on the first day of the month, you shall have a sabbath-rest, a memorial of blowing of trumpets, a holy convocation.
25 You shall do no customary work on it; and you shall offer an offering made by fire to the Lord.'
Corinthians 15:51-52 and 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17:
Behold! I tell you a mystery. We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we shall be changed.
For this we declare to you by a word from the Lord, that we who are alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will not precede those who have fallen asleep. For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord.
Now...
the 23rd September when the Great Sign appears, will also be a Holy / Sabbath day - Shabbat Shuva - Sabbath of Returning.
Shabbat Shuvah ("Sabbath [of] Return" שבת שובה) refers to the Shabbat that occurs during the Ten Days of Repentance between Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur. Only one Shabbat can occur between these dates. This Shabbat is named after the first word of the Haftarah (Hosea 14:2-10) and literally means "Return!" It is perhaps a play on, but not to be confused with, the word Teshuvah (the word for repentance).
Shabbat Shuva begins at sundown on Fri, 22 September 2017
So there we have it folks, the Trumpet will sound on the 1st day of a New Year (denoted as a new beginning / resurrection), after which 3 Sabbaths will follow continuously, with the Great Sign appearing on the last evening, on the day of returning.
Rapture?
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Post by Gary on Jun 1, 2017 8:13:35 GMT -6
Welcome to the board, 888.
Are you thinking the rapture might happen on Shabbat Shuva and not on Trumpets?
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Post by watchmanjim on Jun 1, 2017 8:39:55 GMT -6
Well it's part of Trumpets, isn't it, Gary? He said Sept.22 at sundown. Biblically, it is part of the same day as the daylight hours of Sept. 23.
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Post by 888 on Jun 1, 2017 8:48:42 GMT -6
Hi Gary and thank you for the welcome! I'm thinking the Rapture will be on Trumpets (1 Tishri) for the Church, those who have been watching and yearning - the wise maidens who have kept their lamps full with oil, so to speak  Could it be at midnight that there'll be a shout that the Bridegroom is coming? I think Shabbat Shuva will be the start of the return of Judah and Israel through the time of Jacob's trouble, where the hearts will return to God and seek Him anew. But the above is based on my own understanding and learnings, should not be taken a gospel  |
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Post by whatif on Jun 1, 2017 8:56:23 GMT -6
Welcome to the forum, 888! It's a pleasure to meet you!
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Post by Gary on Jun 1, 2017 8:56:50 GMT -6
This is all very interesting. I've seen some very strong arguments for a rapture on 9/23 from Jaco Prinsloo and Scott Clarke. I've also seen some very strong arguments for a 9/21 or 9/22 rapture from Daniel Matson and Steve Sewell.
Perhaps we won't know the exact day or hour, but part of me gets giddy when I think we may have narrowed it down to one of three days.
Shuva would be the day after Trumpets if the moon is sighted on the evening of 9/20. However, if you recall, in 2015 a FREAK SANDSTORM struck the Middle East and Israel right before Trumpets. If God wants to delay the sighting of the new moon by a day, He could definitely do it (:
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Post by watchmanjim on Jun 1, 2017 9:12:02 GMT -6
Good point, Gary, and remember that Jesus will come in the clouds--so clouds could delay the sighting of the moon!
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Post by 888 on Jun 1, 2017 23:25:12 GMT -6
Welcome to the forum, 888! It's a pleasure to meet you! Thanks whatif and likewise! |
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Post by brad on Jun 1, 2017 23:47:04 GMT -6
Hi Gary and thank you for the welcome! I'm thinking the Rapture will be on Trumpets (1 Tishri) for the Church, those who have been watching and yearning - the wise maidens who have kept their lamps full with oil, so to speak Could it be at midnight that there'll be a shout that the Bridegroom is coming? I think Shabbat Shuva will be the start of the return of Judah and Israel through the time of Jacob's trouble, where the hearts will return to God and seek Him anew. But the above is based on my own understanding and learnings, should not be taken a gospel Hello 888! and another big welcome! I have been thinking the exact same thing... Shabbat Shuva (the day of the sign) seems to speak directly to Israel....The 2 days prior speak to the possible 5th feast being fulfilled.... Welcome Home! You are not alone! |
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Post by brad on Jun 1, 2017 23:52:18 GMT -6
Also, Just posted some new findings, and a couple spreadsheets on a thread Gary created Just for the Jupiter Jubilee....
I believe it's not just Jupiter.... it's the entire universe... all placed and timed to tell God's plan of redemption.
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Post by whatif on Jun 2, 2017 8:06:40 GMT -6
That is exciting news, brad! I'm heading over to Gary's thread now!
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Post by brad on Jun 5, 2017 2:29:52 GMT -6
Ok guys, here we go…
There has been confusion on the Jupiter Jubilee on 2 fronts… 1- Which set of orbital data should we be looking at… Sidereal or Tropical. 2- Accuracy… the 50 year Jupiter Jubilee Cycle seems to disappear when applying NASA data which is extremely accurate. The easy question first, Sidereal data or Tropical….
I am convinced that both are valid… I believe that any part of creation when closely examined has the signature of God written all over it! Sidereal orbit data however is what Stellarium uses because it takes into account the fact that everything… yes EVERYTHING in the universe is moving, and the Sidereal Orbit Data is calculating not only our solar system, but the stars movement as well. The Tropical data is more accurate of a vantage point inside our own solar system. I’m convinced that anywhere we look we will find the signature of God. Now for the tough one… I am not an astronomer… I stumbled on to the Jupiter Jubilee pattern by accident. Attempting to find the probability of how often the September 23 Alignment could happen if at all, I plugged Jupiter’s Sidereal Data from Stellarium into a spreadsheet and Bingo! The 50 year Jupiter Cycle appeared. Stellarium gives the Sidereal period of Jupiter (time it takes for 1 complete orbit) at 11.860 earth years. This gave us exactly 500 orbits of Jupiter from the 3915BC near alignment, Until the September 23, 2017 alignment. Further, it appeared to exactly “sinc” every 593 years with the earths orbital patterns. May I suggest that as scripture sometimes has multiple fulfillments, So too does Jupiter. Let’s say for a minute that we were looking at Jupiter with a magnifying glass… 11.860 years for Jupiter’s orbit was really close… but not exact. Beloved pointed out that the NASA data was even more accurate… I have to admit, when I first plugged the more exact (microscopic) NASA data it was a let down… the Jubilee seemed to vanish in thin air! Wanting to be as exact as possible, I calculated the Sidereal orbit of Jupiter down to the second. Here is what I came up with using Jupiter’s Sidereal orbit of 4,332.5890 days and Earths Sidereal orbit of 355.256 days … Every time Jupiter Orbits, It takes 11 Years, 314 days 18 Hours 33 Minutes And 5.6448 seconds….. Beloved pointed out that when looking at this level of accuracy, Jupiter “sinced” with earth every 123 years….. Beloved is right…. Something else going on here though. As if by magic… (divine intervention) every 7 times Jupiter orbits, the minute and second hands set to ZERO…. Exactly 7 orbits of Jupiter takes: 83 years 11 days 21 hours 0 minutes 0 seconds Further, if you take 7 sets of these 7 orbits, you come up with 49 orbits and this takes exactly: 581 years 83 days 3 hours 0 minutes 0 seconds And this is the point where things get confusing…. (I’ve included my spreadsheet at the bottom).
My first thought was that examining the data at this microscopic level, Jupiter was now mimicking the Daniel 9 prophecy by going 10 sets of 7 x 7 orbits for a total of 490 “laps” around the sun… This may well be…BUT! When multiplying the 49 perfect years (having the minute hand and the second hand reset to zero) by 10 to reach 490 years, the numbers got off course… SO, could this be that the cycle goes 49 years and then requires a “year off” to reset to zero? I need a little help here, I've been looking at spreadsheet numbers too long! Beloved, I hand this off to you!
Spreadsheet Calculations:Microscopic look at Jupiter.xlsx (11.39 KB)
PS: Beloved's finding of a 123 lap "sinc" is also amazing.... 123 is a very...VERY special number! More later... got to sleep!
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Could it be at midnight that there'll be a shout that the Bridegroom is coming?
