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Post by schooldad3 on Oct 23, 2019 17:31:35 GMT -6
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Post by mike on Oct 25, 2019 6:00:23 GMT -6
thanks for sharing your study and research information schooldad3. as I watch the news and the horrific discord and troublesome times around the world, I often think how it all fits prophetically. I understand that Turkey plays a role but did not realize the degree and what is literally happening before our eyes. Anathema Maranatha
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Post by schooldad3 on Oct 25, 2019 7:40:20 GMT -6
for some reason I struggle to even get the information out.
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Post by boraddict on Oct 25, 2019 10:10:31 GMT -6
Thank you schooldad3 for opening my eyes to Habakkuk.
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Post by raindrop on Oct 25, 2019 10:41:37 GMT -6
schooldad3, That was a very powerful presentation. Your wise advice for us to be circumspect has been heeded. However, I really don't believe this is a dummy run. This can only culminate in Ezekiel 38. Erdogan has made no bones about his desire to revive the Ottoman Empire. "The beast that was, and is not and will be again?" One asks? I also feel that Turkey will act quickly (swiftly) as the window of opportunity may close at any given point. Given the fickle nature of world politics and opinion. Europe is in political turmoil but they will FREAK out out the threat of Turkey opening the borders - the floodgates of refugees into Europe. Nightmare!! The end game is Israel. Erdogan has made this abundantly clear. He who conquers and eradicates Israel, will be the de facto leader of the revived Ottoman Empire. It's becoming really real now. Perhaps you could present your video in "side by side" presentations of Habakkuk with current events? If one doesn't know scripture, your presentation may seem confusing. I found it mesmerising.
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Post by mike on Oct 25, 2019 10:46:10 GMT -6
schooldad3 , That was a very powerful presentation. Your wise advice for us to be circumspect has been heeded. However, I really don't believe this is a dummy run. This can only culminate in Ezekiel 38. Erdogan has made no bones about his desire to revive the Ottoman Empire. "The beast that was, and is not and will be again?" One asks? I also feel that Turkey will act quickly (swiftly) as the window of opportunity may close at any given point. Given the fickle nature of world politics and opinion. Europe is in political turmoil but they will FREAK out out the threat of Turkey opening the borders - the floodgates of refugees into Europe. Nightmare!! The end game is Israel. Erdogan has made this abundantly clear. He who conquers and eradicates Israel, will be the de facto leader of the revived Ottoman Empire. It's becoming really real now. Perhaps you could present your video in "side by side" presentations of Habakkuk with current events? If one doesn't know scripture, your presentation may seem confusing. I found it mesmerising. I would agree that someone who isnt well versed or just beginning to learn could benefit. Were you mesmerized because of how real this is becoming or because you couldnt follow? I think the former
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Post by raindrop on Oct 25, 2019 10:54:37 GMT -6
mike, Thank you! You hit the nail on the head. It's all very scary if one knows scripture. Yet exciting at the same time. The reality of end times unfolding is far more violent than one can imagine when simply reading about it. But, I am so excited about the return of our LORD Jesus. It's an odd place to be -emotionally. Almost selfish. Thank you for the smile !!
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Post by raindrop on Oct 25, 2019 11:44:11 GMT -6
schooldad3, One little add to the mix comes from Ecclesiastes 1:9 - What has been will be again. What has been done will be done again. There is nothing new under the sun. This in view of the revived Ottoman Empire.
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Post by sog on Oct 25, 2019 13:12:08 GMT -6
schooldad3, Excellent, excellent video. Thanks so much for the research and time you put into this. I encourage everyone to take the time to watch the whole video. schooldad3, Ezekiel 38 was mentioned here in this thread and elsewhere. I totally agree and also possibly Isaiah 17 destruction of Damascus in Syria. Would love to hear your thoughts on the tie in of Habakkuk to those two passages. Especially Ezekiel where it talks about the same countries involved in an invasion coming like the wind, a cloud, a storm, with the horsemen, taking spoils, and how the Lord will show his Glory by coming against them, throwing the mountains (nations) down. I have faith in God's timeline and I wonder if we will be here to see this unfold in part or in whole.
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Post by mike on Oct 25, 2019 17:28:40 GMT -6
Lots here for you school dad. I recall you have some issues typing, so if you can respond on video please post it back here.
I also have a question for you as I remember you study and had knowledge of the "Bible in the stars". Have you been able to investigate what is happening now or upcoming in the heavens and how it might correlate to Turkey/Syria, etc.?
EDIT (10/26 10:31AM) - to clarify my question. Is there any type of significance in the stars that can be identified as aligned with the 'storm' in Syria. For example the Bethlehem star was present around the time of the birth of the Lord. Or we have the 9/23/17 - Rev 12 sign (still trying to understand what that meant or represented). Is there anything in the stars that would point to ISIS forming, or Turkey attack on Kurds. Just wondering if you had looked into that aspect
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Post by mike on Oct 27, 2019 18:29:47 GMT -6
schooldad3 - How do you see the death of Baghati in terms of a fulfillment or 'necessary step' in the process of fulfillment
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Post by schooldad3 on Oct 27, 2019 22:44:50 GMT -6
schooldad3 - How do you see the death of Baghati in terms of a fulfillment or 'necessary step' in the process of fulfillment
Baghdadi was a figure head. He has not been running the organization for a couple of years due to injuries. That task went to his 2nd in command a former Iraqi military commander trained under Hussein .
www.newsweek.com/isis-new-leader-baghdadi-running-things-1468025?fbclid=IwAR3ByMsDeQh1ZDMZaoz52qS-PJQAZEqgpZ577FdT897f1Q484frHBAelbf4 .
He is the operations chief. Once coalition forces began to move against ISIS they fragmented into different groups looking like a variety of freedom fighter organizations with different names. Most of these fled to Turkey were they were outfitted to continue the mission of over throwing Assad. They are known as the FSA free Syrian army and are now the point of the spear in Turkeys current offensive.
Here is a well documented research article detailing Turkeys side be side involvement with ISIS and its spin offs.
worldbeyondwar.org/turkey-supports-isis/?fbclid=IwAR3QSbAEzxzyb8DIhrg3gNxY7b9Ervsf-npVsZkKpzuLubv2VIIvjGqD6iM. stop ISIS was the brainchild of Hussein. But with his death Turkey birthed it and took it in.
The only to stop ISIS is to destroy Turkey and the only way to stop Hezbollah or Hamas is to destroy Iran. Turkey is on the verge of becoming a super power. If it gets there it will shake that part of the world in way not seen since the rise of the ottoman empire.
I wish I could get a lot more visibility for things like this. Even sites like this simply do not seem to see the power of what Habakkuk has to say about the current condition of the middle east and what in may mean for us. This has been going on since 2011 and will continue for a while yet right under our noses . I wanted to write and produce videos on it about years ago but it was hard to be as conclusive as we can be today so I delayed.
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Post by bondservant on Oct 31, 2019 6:55:25 GMT -6
schooldad3 - How do you see the death of Baghati in terms of a fulfillment or 'necessary step' in the process of fulfillment I just finished finally watching the video and was coming here to ask this same question since he was mentioned in the video. I wanted more opinions on the “austere religious scholar” named Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi. Attachments:
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Post by neural on Oct 31, 2019 22:49:17 GMT -6
Really enjoyed the video. Very informative and eye opening as well. From what I read, and thinking about the actors in the scripture, I believe that Habakkuk may actually be a secondary account of the Ezekiel 38 war. Bits and pieces of why I think this is: Everyone has been saying that the Ezekiel 38 players would be coming into Israel and the Golan Heights through Syria, but scripture states they come from the north, and it is Lebanon, not Syria, that is directly north of Israel. As pointed out in the video, Lebanon is in a state of unrest, and frankly is quite vulnerable to hostile invasion as well. The violence against Lebanon mentioned in Habakkuk may in fact be reference to Turkey or one of the other players invading Lebanon, which would then put them directly on the northern border of Israel and the Mountains there-in. (side note: Israels border with Lebanon is a very east-west looking line, while it's border with Syria is more of a north-south, which would, by some reckonings, place Syria to the *east* of Israel, even though the bulk of the country is to the north-east.) The individual that is referred to in Habakkuk could very well be the anti-Christ, considering how it describes both his actions and his end. And the description that God would work something that would be a great wonder, but people won't believe it even if they are told. This aligns with God saving Israel in Ezekiel 38, in my opinion. I believe personally that the Ezekiel 38 war will result in God saving Israel so that the nations will know that He is God, but that doesn't necessarily mean they will just make excuses and go on in their disbelief. Again, I come from the perspective that in order to maintain the integrity of Free Will, God will not *force* people to believe in Him. Just because He says "that they will know that I am the Lord", doesn't mean they will be forced to accept it or not given free will to say "yeah right" and just continue believing it was coincidence or luck. schooldad3, my only critique of the video: You appeared to be going somewhere with how this particular prophecy might affect those of us in the United States directly, but ..never seemed to complete the thought. Also, if you happen to do a follow up, it would be helpful to do a quick bit on the background of who the Chaledeans are. I'm going to look up the history myself on this, but right now I get the feeling that you are eluding to ISIS and or Islam in general being the Chaldeans? Thanks for posting the video though. Really good info!
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Post by schooldad3 on Nov 1, 2019 22:43:01 GMT -6
Really enjoyed the video. Very informative and eye opening as well. From what I read, and thinking about the actors in the scripture, I believe that Habakkuk may actually be a secondary account of the Ezekiel 38 war. Bits and pieces of why I think this is: Everyone has been saying that the Ezekiel 38 players would be coming into Israel and the Golan Heights through Syria, but scripture states they come from the north, and it is Lebanon, not Syria, that is directly north of Israel. As pointed out in the video, Lebanon is in a state of unrest, and frankly is quite vulnerable to hostile invasion as well. The violence against Lebanon mentioned in Habakkuk may in fact be reference to Turkey or one of the other players invading Lebanon, which would then put them directly on the northern border of Israel and the Mountains there-in. (side note: Israels border with Lebanon is a very east-west looking line, while it's border with Syria is more of a north-south, which would, by some reckonings, place Syria to the *east* of Israel, even though the bulk of the country is to the north-east.) The individual that is referred to in Habakkuk could very well be the anti-Christ, considering how it describes both his actions and his end. And the description that God would work something that would be a great wonder, but people won't believe it even if they are told. This aligns with God saving Israel in Ezekiel 38, in my opinion. I believe personally that the Ezekiel 38 war will result in God saving Israel so that the nations will know that He is God, but that doesn't necessarily mean they will just make excuses and go on in their disbelief. Again, I come from the perspective that in order to maintain the integrity of Free Will, God will not *force* people to believe in Him. Just because He says "that they will know that I am the Lord", doesn't mean they will be forced to accept it or not given free will to say "yeah right" and just continue believing it was coincidence or luck. schooldad3 , my only critique of the video: You appeared to be going somewhere with how this particular prophecy might affect those of us in the United States directly, but ..never seemed to complete the thought. Also, if you happen to do a follow up, it would be helpful to do a quick bit on the background of who the Chaledeans are. I'm going to look up the history myself on this, but right now I get the feeling that you are eluding to ISIS and or Islam in general being the Chaldeans? Thanks for posting the video though. Really good info! I do not know how things will develop with those of us in the united states but neither could people see the collapse of the soviet union back in 1989-90. The Chaldeans in particular would be those who hail from the land of southern Iraq/Babylon. Arabs have their origins from Mesopotamia These would be the essentially the Arabs of Mesopotamia. Their horsemen come from around the world to join in Jihad. Yes the driving force is Islam. Which originated in Mesopotamia. See my series on the doctrine of antichrist.
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