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Post by mike on Dec 3, 2018 12:15:25 GMT -6
sorta disagree with this, mike. I can believe that God would cause a global warming. But it is NOT warming up out there. They say it is a consensus of scientists, but it is not. It a way to redistribute wealth and power and is a beast-kingdom deception on mankind. and a haughty position of man to think he can change the climate of the earth, when it is GOD that has the final say... so we agree with the Sovereignty part for sure. Writing in Real Clear Markets, Aaron Brown looked at the official NASA global temperature data and noticed something surprising. From February 2016 to February 2018, "global average temperatures dropped by 0.56 degrees Celsius." That, he notes, is the biggest two-year drop in the past century. "The 2016-2018 Big Chill," he writes, "was composed of two Little Chills, the biggest five month drop ever (February to June 2016) and the fourth biggest (February to June 2017). A similar event from February to June 2018 would bring global average temperatures below the 1980s average." article hereHmmm. I really meant that "God is sovereign" and in control over this. Hope that helps what I meant a little more. |
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Post by kjs on Dec 3, 2018 12:54:01 GMT -6
This is just more along the line of Wow - Isn't that interesting..........
Here is one STORY floating around (many others including videos)........
Sounds like there are MANY, Many people in France who really do not like Mr. Macron right now ...
so much so that Mr. Macron is having the PM act as PR Front man to try to get things settled down............
JUST thought I would post it since it is current news .........
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Post by Joel on Dec 6, 2018 2:56:23 GMT -6
Hey guys, I have written an article on the characteristics of the Antichrist and how Macron seems to fit the bill perfectly. Link to it is - www.christianevidence.net/2018/11/could-emmanuel-macron-be-anti-christ.htmlJust thought you might be interested in reading it. I know there is some good evidence for other candidates being the AC, but the evidence is nowhere near as convincing as it is for this man. Hope you like it! Very well written! Is that your website? Thanks, bondservant! And yes, that is my website. |
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Post by Natalie on Apr 15, 2019 11:05:28 GMT -6
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Post by bobthewebguy on Jun 25, 2019 14:30:41 GMT -6
Hi guys, Yes, that was a great article. I even posted it on my website. macronistheantichrist.info
But, I would like to talk about Emmanuel Macron. Not sure if I can mention a name as the AC. Some sites won't let me do that. I was minding my own business one day when a pic of Emmanuel Macron came on the TV screen. It was as if the Lord was saying to me, "That's him, that's the AC" The very next pic on the screen was that slide with the overall vote percentage of 66.06% that he received. Well, as you can guess, the Lord had my attention. I started a website, macronistheantichrist.info that day (or around that day) and have been following him since. There is something that needs to be discussed. And that is the problem with, We will only know who the AC is until he signs the 7 yr. peace agreement; so why bother now. I thought the same thing for the last 38 years until recently. IMO, THE WHOLE WORLD WILL KNOW AT THAT TIME, HE WILL BE REVEALED AT THAT TIME, BUT, WE CAN KNOW NOW ALSO. Unfortunately, we don't even discuss Macron because of this misunderstanding of scripture. I am 100% positive that he is the AC and every single fact about him proves it. What do you think?
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Post by venge on Jun 28, 2019 8:53:02 GMT -6
Well, I’ll just lay my cards out.
Macron the AC? I don’t see it
Does it matter who the AC is? Nope
Can we stop the AC? It’s ordained by God to happen, you cannot stand in God’s path.
Does Macron’s traits resemble Cyrus, Nebuchadnezzar, pharaoh, Caesar? I don’t see it.
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Post by bobthewebguy on Jun 28, 2019 11:05:28 GMT -6
Are you looking?
He fits the bible description in EVERY WAY.
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Post by kjs on Jun 28, 2019 13:31:24 GMT -6
I really do recommend caution in any proclamations about a actual individual person known as the Antichrist.
You see all of John's writings only point to a person exhibiting the spirit of Antichrist (and rarely even indicates that is could refer to an individual -- mainly only groups)
In 2 Thes -- it only talks of the Lawless One ....
Here is a quote from an PBS article .... "It often comes as a great surprise to people to discover that "the Antichrist" does not appear in the Book of Revelation at all. In fact, it's nowhere else in the Bible or in other apocalyptic literature except in a few passages in two of the Johannine Epistles." {https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/apocalypse/antichrist/white.html}
As I already pointed out the majority of John's writings indicate a spirit of --- not an actual person of ....
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Now as everyone knows I am a firm believer of the future fulfillment of Daniel's 70th week (which we will not discuss here) .......
So I do tend to favor the eventual rise of the Lawless One -- which may or may not have the spirit of antichrist .....
But very leery of saying XXX is the Antichrist --- as the villain like in the "Left Behind Series"
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Post by yardstick on Jun 28, 2019 13:38:23 GMT -6
Are you looking? He fits the bible description in EVERY WAY. It would be helpful if you posted what Bible descriptions you find fit Mr. Macron, in a tabular way. It may be that some will agree with some of your bullets, and disagree with others, et c. |
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Post by barbiosheepgirl on Jun 28, 2019 19:16:32 GMT -6
Well shiver me timbers and call me Woody, or spank me cross-eyed, but Amen and Hallelujah!
one should err on the side of caution that the man of lawlessness is WITHIN. It is not a singular person, but the mortal desire of man's heart that promotes the lawlessness within, the spirit of Antichrist, man thinking he, himself is in control over x, y, z when it is really God all along.. If one keeps seeking a specific person, I would guard my heart very carefully and reread much of Hebrews and 1 John.
(grammar note: I do not bother using the feminine pronoun when it is implied by the English language when using the word "man" or "he" as subjunctive pronoun.)
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Post by stormyknight on Jun 28, 2019 22:19:48 GMT -6
I get what you all mean about the spirit of antichrist. Who could miss such a lawless attitude in today's world. Don't answer that... But the thing is scripture needs to be applied to today's world. All those kingdoms and mountains and midst of the seas and beasts and such are Germany and France and the US and Russia. And don't forget China. None of these existed when scripture was written. We know that ten kings/kingdoms will give their power to the beast for one hour. Wouldn't that mean ten countries that we know today will give their power to this "beast". We have seen already that Macron is trying to form a military from ten European countries. That would make Macron one of the ten if France is giving of it's own military might to this new military. But then if Macron gets elected to the leadership of the EU, then what? He would be the head of what could be described as a military power that got it's power from ten countries/kingdoms. I'm not saying Macron is the antichrist, but someone has to lead this power. We know from history that it will happen. Hitler, Napoleon, Ghengis Khan. There is always a head. Macron just seems to fit the bill, at the moment.
Does anyone remember the inundation of videos prior to 2015 that touted that Hollywood was secretly putting numbers in movies like some kind of code? I remember eating it up. What was this 239 or 23/24 or all the variations of it? Then along comes the pope to address the Congress of the United States and boldly states that he comes "in his own name"... on September 23-24 of 2015! That must be it! He is the antichrist! I know I was convinced. Then the news came out about the Rev. 12 sign that would happen on Sept. 23, 2017, Hmmm It had to be a diversion, then. All those movies with the numbers. Hollywood is controlled by evil factions, right? They wouldn't want us to know about the Rev. 12 sign. I don't remember any YT commentator, at the time, putting forth that maybe, just maybe, it was God putting those numbers in those movies. Someone finally applied the numbers to the stars and BINGO!
My long winded point is that the truth is right in front of us, but we may not understand it until the last minute when the pieces finally fit together. We know from Rev. 20:10 that the beast and the false prophet are thrown into the lake of fire. So is the beast a man or a whole bunch of men? Or is it just a metaphor for a system of government? Why would that get thrown into the lake of fire with the individual who is the false prophet? In my mind, the beast in this verse is the individual that represents the whole. The leader. When you think of Nazis, whose name comes to mind? Hitler of course. He was the head of a whole system that was very anti-Christ. And no, it doesn't matter who this future person is to us as we will be snatched out of his grasp. I'm just saying that it is a system and it is a person and we can possibly know who just before leaving so that maybe we can point him/it out to those who are unfortunate to be left behind. We can leave it here on these very boards "this is the one that was written about in scripture. DO NOT take his mark or his name!!" Maybe we will make flyers like we did for the Rev. 12 sign. Who knows? What I do know, or rather believe wholeheartedly, is that we are on the very edge of the precipice. The world is just about to change very dramatically. And we as God's Children, the Ecclesia, those whom the Creator knew our names before anything was made, need to come together. We need to pray as one. I would ask you all to fervently pray for Jesus to draw us together to be of one mind and heart. Ask Jesus our Lord to vouch for us before the Throne of Heaven and ask the Almighty God and Father of us all to fill us with His love and wisdom at this final moment in time. Just like those gathered at Pentecost so many ages ago, that they all went forth with one Spirit and one mind and began spreading the good news of Jesus Christ. Ask Jesus to give us the power to close this age the way it was opened. We have a mighty task before us. We are to be Kings and Priests, no? Are you ready for that? We must be ready and only Jesus can prepare us.
ok,I'm done. That was...I don't know what that was.
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Post by venge on Jun 29, 2019 9:26:48 GMT -6
Are you looking? He fits the bible description in EVERY WAY. Yes, I am looking. But I am not looking actively for a specific person because it doesn't matter. The Bible said a falling away first, then the man of sin is revealed. He will be revealed in his time not because we look for it...but because it will become obvious to all - not to a select few but to all that follow Christ. People say Trump fits it in every way. People say Kushner does too. Then there was almost every single President of the USA, their VPs, Business man and other world leaders. Some even say it was in the past at 70 AD. Macron, in my humble opinion, doesn't fit it. He is not a prophet. You are looking for a man of sin and a prophet. I only need to look for 1. Honestly, it seems to me that you look at Macron because he resembles Nicoli Carpathia from Kirk Cameron's Left Behind movie -- which also in my opinion is poorly based on Revelation and rather based upon novels by Tim LaHaye whose idea of the rapture and events surrounding it are fanciful and imaginative, but not necessarily realistic. The fact that Gordon Curry (the AC in Left Behind) looks like President Macron and therefore is the Anti-Christ has nothing else in common. The AC rises up after 10 nations that form the beast empire exists. THEN the AC rises up. Well, Macro is already President. So the 10 nation beast kingdom had existed, by that logic, many years ago placing us way AFTER 7 years if you go by that for a pre tribulation doctrine time period. Thus, making it incorrect to assume Macron is the AC because we are passed the time period warranted by the pre trib assumption. That is just 1 reason it is not him over MANY that can be brought up. Macron is not loved by all people. As a matter of fact, he's VERY unpopular in France. Hmm, we have a problem there don't we as the AC is loved by many in his kingdom and other nations. Conspiracy Theories may be fun, but they really have no place in a Christians life. Christ said we will know the enemy by their fruit. That is what we look for on all mankind, but first ourselves. What point is it to look for the AC when we have fruit we need to bear and make ripe and grow and once plucked to grow more. It is hard enough to fight our own lusts/temptations then for me to guess on who may be the AC. |
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Post by kjs on Jul 1, 2019 12:05:49 GMT -6
ok,I'm done. That was...I don't know what that was.
That was definitely long winded .... 
Here is the deal (again in my opinion) there are many, many things in NT scripture (and specifically in Revelation) --
that simply do not mesh with our limited understanding...
For example ...
Revelation 20:14 Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire.
HUH?!?
Death is a concept, a punishment, something used to indicate NOT ALIVE? Whatever, you choose to call it death ceases to be because it becomes the the second death.....
Next Hades -- depending on whichever side you take in the scholar debates -- ie. is simply a place for the dead, or is a place of ever lasting torment for the dead.... either way it is a PLACE And the PLACE gets moved into another place called the "lake of fire" --- which at least implies this "lake of file" is the final place for some-things (like Satan, Death, Hades, False Prophet, Beast....)
Really feel; much of this stuff we are not going to really understand -- until it happens --- at which point we go --- "of Course -- that makes sense now" ....
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Post by stormyknight on Jul 1, 2019 17:13:37 GMT -6
kjs , I've thought about that one too, and like you said, we're really not going to know until it happens. But this is how I see that verse. We, being flesh or organic beings, will die a physical death(except those who are changed at the rapture). Hades, or the grave, is where our bodies go upon the first death. When all is said and done, there will no longer be any use for either of those because everyone who exists at that time will have been changed into imperishable. The first death and the grave are now unnecessary. Those 'concepts' are out the window! Hallelujah!!
Now, I'm wondering, does it say anywhere in scripture that the angels, including satan and his minions, are imperishable now? They exist in the divine plane, but if God throws satan into the lake of fire ( Rev. 20:10 ), is he consumed? Destroyed? Or will he be there for eternity? My thought is that as long as God wills, His messengers, which includes those who have fallen, continue to exist until He deems otherwise and then they become as though they never existed(the second death). This seems to me to be the most loving and kind thing to do. But I don't know, I could very well be wrong.
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Post by stormyknight on Jul 1, 2019 20:19:21 GMT -6
Jul 1, 2019 17:40:57 GMT -6 bobthewebguy said: I'll meet you all on the Macron or other threads.
Bob, I can't keep up! You are all over the place. I read your letter at dbws.biz/evil/ . Very interesting POV. Could I suggest you try BibleHub.com? And when you find a verse you are looking for in the KJV, hit the 'interlinear' link and it will show you the ORIGINAL, or as close as possible, Hebrew/Aramaic or Greek. Easy Peasy. Thanks again, mike.
I think if you study the Greek for that verse about the love of money and apply it to the surrounding context, you will find that it is just plain covetousness that is the root of anyone's evil machinations. And by their longing for that which they covet, their mind/heart/soul/mental capacity, is pierced by many arrows. Their very being is wounded, sometimes to their death or someone elses. Take drunk driving for example. A person who covets the feeling they get from alcohol begins to stay in that state by drinking all the time, becoming an alcoholic. Some believe they are ok to drive and in so doing put others' lives at risk. They and others are pierced by many arrows. All because of their covetousness, not of alcohol itself, but of the imagined euphoria it brings them.
Yes, Satan coveted what God has. Lusting after that power did him in.
And I might argue with you on who is being talked about in each of the verses you supplied. Isaiah 14 begins talking about the king of Tyre and then the one who's name, Lucifer, is a Latin translation of helel ben-šā·ḥar: "a shining one, Son of the Morning", Hmmmm Jesus is The Bright and Morning Star, and John 1:3 tells us, "All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made." Makes sense, 'Morning Star...Son of the Morning'. BUT the being in Ezekiel being talked about is initially Nebuchadnezzar, correct? Then, "You were an anointed guardian cherub. I placed you; you were on the holy mountain of God;" I may be wrong, but I've always understood that when you see a depiction of the Ark of the Covenant, this person is one of those two cherubs covering the mercy seat with their wings, hence guardian cherub, or 5526 [e] has·sō·w·ḵêḵ; "one who covers". Maybe everyone has more than one job in Heaven, but this guy doesn't seem to have anything to do with the dawn.
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