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Post by mike on Aug 17, 2018 9:04:47 GMT -6
I came across this Youtube video and thought i'd share here. Most of it makes a lot of sense and once again challenges us to think outside the box. I thought of you barbiosheepgirl when he discusses the Rapture, change, and the last Trump time frame in the first few minutes of the video Now I am not sold on the Rapture being coordinated with America (debateable)
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Post by venge on Aug 17, 2018 9:13:57 GMT -6
Haha Mike! This is why I like ya. You have your own opinion but your open to say, let’s look into it. You can still have your opinion and see if info adds to it.
One thing I’ll add. Many see the blood moon prophecy as literal. (Yes, here I go again) and it may be literal. But, I like to know as a watcher what to look for because we don’t know.
On one hand we look for a literal blood moon. On the other, there is scripture that says a blood moon and a eclipse is not literal but explains what they do. They block light. Since this is a time of darkness (wickedness) and no light gets thru (no love, no righteousness) the blood moon then can be describing a world with no virtue. Not a literal thing. Something we need to recognize when the love of many wax’s cold. Truely the light is blocked.
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Post by mike on Aug 17, 2018 9:26:53 GMT -6
Venge, I dont pretend to know too much. I have a lot to learn still. There are many views on many things, and a lot of the have plausibility so I dont disregard them. It is very hard to determine prophecy when it occurs let alone that which is yet to happen! I do believe that God put the stars and planets where they are and where they would be. I believe He gave them to us for seasons and signs. I believe in literal and spiritual earthquakes etc. I dont disregard your take or position on signs being spiritual and hope you dont discredit when they are physical and happening before us. We study these things and learn. I take into account the possibilities and dont form a doctrine on any of it as I believe this is how people get off course. They begin to follow their doctrines which are no essential to faith. This video helps us to summarize the signs in the heavens alone. I consider these and tie them to other signs in the spirit and physically and continue to realize that the great and terrible day of the Lord is fast approaching. One thing I am certain of, is that Christ came died for me you and everyone else past present and future and is coming again, soon (and very soon) Howd you watch a 24 minute video and comment on it 9 minutes after i posted it LOL
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Post by mike on Aug 17, 2018 9:27:34 GMT -6
Oh and venge - I do appreciate your challenge to things like this. It helps to continue to think outside the box even when I disagree with you
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Post by klb on Aug 17, 2018 10:38:07 GMT -6
That is a really interesting video - love that it makes you think about things a little differently.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2018 11:44:55 GMT -6
Want to second that. Really interesting, to say the least!
The timeline of this guy would make some prohesied but still to be fulfilled events better fit into the scenario. I'm thinking i.e. of Israels 7yr weapon burning after the Ez 38/39 war.
Of course we should take this video (like all manmade opinions) with a grain of salt, but it inherits many insights from other parts of the Body of Christ and is in conformity with lots of other teachings on endtimes. Nothing to build (new) doctrine upon, but surely worth some more research and to keep it in the back of one's head.
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Post by venge on Aug 17, 2018 12:15:27 GMT -6
Oh and venge - I do appreciate your challenge to things like this. It helps to continue to think outside the box even when I disagree with you You can watch a 24 min video by skipping the boring parts haha. You can disagree with me Mike, but I keep posting cause I hate to see you wrong 😬 Btw, I don’t believe all is non literal. Just some things. Example: when hail falls it can be non literal via scripture but when it falls and it says it’s weight is a lot, I’m thinking it’s literal
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Post by Natalie on Aug 17, 2018 20:45:15 GMT -6
I do agree with the fact that there are a lot of heavenly signs leading up to 2018 and then not much. It's got to mean something. I did look up solar eclipses and there is not really any major ones until the one that crosses the US. There are annual eclipses, but most occur above the ocean and small bits of land (or over the arctic); nothing like the one last year or in 6 years. I didn't look into lunar eclipses.
Only God could put together leaders Trump and Pence. We also have the French guy Emmanuel. Nothing is coincidence.
However...if you follow the 70 years, 80 by strength, then 2031 is too long. It's 83 years from 1948.
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Post by mike on Aug 17, 2018 21:16:38 GMT -6
The same guy posted another video today speculating more about the second eclipse as it comes shortly after the end of Trump's second term. He's also for an interview in it with someone who has connection to the elites. Interesting theories, but I've heard many now and with so many different and they all seem to fit somewhat I take it with a grain and keep watching & hoping it's soon and very soon.
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Post by barbiosheepgirl on Aug 17, 2018 21:39:41 GMT -6
mike -ie.. I promise to watch this video. after all, I am still consider myself a stellar junky! We had a long day because of idiots. Yet I will find the blessings in it somehow... can i still call people idiots and be walking in the Light??? OK, for now, addressing what venge said about blood moons/solar eclipses: I came across this in 1John5 yet didnt see it the same way before: 5Who is he that overcomes the world, but he that believes that Jesus is the Son of God?
6This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that bears witness, because the Spirit is truth.
7For there are three that bear witness in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit: and these three are one.
8And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.We see many things in scripture referring to blood. I believe there is something quite profound there. this is from a kjv, as I was reading from the NKJV, and the word earth is not in all the translations... I was noticing the heaven/earth comparisons, so it is interesting that some translations leave "earth" out. I am not suggesting anything here about the blood moon specifically being a "witness" or anything connected directly to these verses, but then again, I dont know. These verses also seem to suggest the elements of baptism. And too, when I read Revelation, there seems to be many references to water and blood. I am tending to think it is necessary to find the Spiritual meaning behind them, particularly the blood references. Sorry if I am not saying anything here profound. Just an observation and an unfinished assertion on my part.
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Post by barbiosheepgirl on Aug 17, 2018 21:42:09 GMT -6
natalie...just thinking outside the box here: Whatif this 70/80 is NOT the clock towards which we should be looking....
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Post by stormyknight on Aug 17, 2018 22:25:24 GMT -6
very interesting video, mike. Valid points to consider. The numbers! I used to purposely look past seeing numbers in triplet or repetition as bunky numerology, but it's happened in my own life, as well as those things that we are all seeing lately. They are definite attention grabbers!
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Post by Natalie on Aug 18, 2018 8:29:55 GMT -6
natalie...just thinking outside the box here: Whatif this 70/80 is NOT the clock towards which we should be looking.... I did say "if" Although personally I think 70 years is important, especially with all the signs within the last year.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2018 9:37:56 GMT -6
natalie...just thinking outside the box here: Whatif this 70/80 is NOT the clock towards which we should be looking.... I did say "if" Although personally I think 70 years is important, especially with all the signs within the last year. That's my impression, too. Although I pondered the possibility, the 70/80 years timeframe is related to the recapture of the templemount in 1967....! This would give us nearly 20 more years to go. The signs and convergences however are more pointing to "now". But we all surely know of lots of examples, when our ancestors and antecessors were failed by their own expectations..... Maybe we are the first generation who has it right....? Just saying....
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Post by nana on Aug 18, 2018 10:10:19 GMT -6
I came across this Youtube video and thought i'd share here. Most of it makes a lot of sense and once again challenges us to think outside the box. I thought of you barbiosheepgirl when he discusses the Rapture, change, and the last Trump time frame in the first few minutes of the video Now I am not sold on the Rapture being coordinated with America (debateable) His latest
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