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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2017 6:06:43 GMT -6
Kjs,
I agree, any precautionary discerned thought must be brought to the table. Even if 99% turns out false, 1 % Can cause clarity or can present a very valid argument that we may encounter in our ministry that we might need to learn to overcome in combat or he ready to encounter...
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Post by Gary on May 31, 2017 8:46:58 GMT -6
It's good to be cautious, but also good to step out in faith. It can be a hard balance to achieve. Are we now to the point that we can say the rapture is happening this year? Perhaps the signs have converged to such a point. Will the rapture happen on 9/21 - 9/23? I wouldn't put money on it, but it seems possible. There is certainly no shortage of signs and I've never seen anything like the convergence of signs, events, and numbers this year. Y2K, 2012, 2014, and 2015 pale in comparison. Rapture Ready is even starting to catch on: www.raptureready.com/2017/05/21/numbers-that-are-getting-my-attention/ |
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2017 9:43:13 GMT -6
I've seen a Hebrew roots movement Christian move from no rapture to a mid rapture position. I personally have gone through every Rapture and no rapture possibility and I have never seen so much evidence for the very thing that I fall so hard against, All because it just seems so good to be true.
I think if we would list all the things that we have discovered just since the sign was in the heavens, along with the historical evidence beginning with the unmistakable nation being born in a day in 1948. Add to that how 2017 is the end of so many cycles either biblical cycle or judgment cycles. If Jesus was here what do you think he would be telling us? "I told you these things"!?
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Post by kjs on May 31, 2017 15:52:34 GMT -6
In Sister Act 2 -- there is a scene where one of the girls is begging her mother to be allowed to the competition....
Her mom basically replies there are hundreds on the street singing their shoulda, woulda, coulda s but not bringing a dime home
That is kind of how I am feeling.....
There is So Much coming to light in the past several months that seem to POINT the way, saying this is it....
However, there is still part of me that is playing the "yeah-But" game ....
Yes, the sign does appear to be coming into alignment on sept 23. ... And I go. Yeah-but where is the dragon he is also a Sky Sign and he is not showing up.....
This is fifty years since Israel took Jeruselum and it is possibly this is a Jubilee year .... And I go... Yeah-But Jubilees have not been celebrated in the past .... Where is the proof it is such a year?
The Birth happens on the 9th, while the sign happens on the 23rd ... And I go ... Yeah-but obviously to dates are off cause not on same day!
Not sure why I am doing this,.... Maybe cause I keep thinking. 88 reasons and what a failure there......
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Post by watchmanjim on May 31, 2017 17:51:08 GMT -6
Well let me point out that nobody here is selling a book to make money. Nobody I am aware of is being proud of this knowledge and trying to look smart. We are just trying to truly learn the Word of God, the will of God, the ways of God, and then help others understand it too.
I was skeptical at first and leary of being burned. Nobody likes to look like a fool. Nobody wants to be a fool. So that is why I believe all, or most, of us who are studying and collaborating around this concept, are humbly admitting there are things we don't know, and are constantly gut-checking ourselves to see if maybe we missed something. Like, if maybe we missed something, and this whole thing is baloney. But the more I study it, the more I am convinced. If I'm wrong, I'm prepared to be wrong.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2017 20:26:11 GMT -6
You hit my sentiments on the mark, Jim. Ditto! I'm not afraid of looking like a fool for Christ, I just don't want to be A poor witness for Christ!
Maybe we should all pray that God would send us all confirmation(?)
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Post by watchmanjim on May 31, 2017 20:54:49 GMT -6
I've been praying earnestly that if we're wrong, we'll be sure to see why, and be willing to accept it ahead of time. But then everybody keeps finding more evidence!
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2017 21:20:13 GMT -6
I've been praying earnestly that if we're wrong, we'll be sure to see why, and be willing to accept it ahead of time. But then everybody keeps finding more evidence! That's what gets me about this. Many people see and agree about the evidence in a way that has never happened before. For those of you that have been watching prophecy for more than a few years you know what I'm talking about. Plus, the icing on the cake for me is that the "Christians" who I would expect to miss the real thing are doing exactly that. The snake oil salesmen type preachers and television personalities... And the Ivory Tower types, too. The loud and proud suit wearing television "prophecy experts" are those I would most expect not to "get it." |
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Post by watchmanjim on May 31, 2017 21:43:11 GMT -6
Amos 7:14 Then answered Amos, and said to Amaziah, I was no prophet, neither was I a prophet's son; but I was an herdman, and a gatherer of sycomore fruit:
Amos 7:15 And the LORD took me as I followed the flock, and the LORD said unto me, Go, prophesy unto my people Israel.
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Post by kjs on Jun 2, 2017 8:33:28 GMT -6
Plus, the icing on the cake for me is that the "Christians" who I would expect to miss the real thing are doing exactly that. The snake oil salesmen type preachers and television personalities... And the Ivory Tower types, too. The loud and proud suit wearing television "prophecy experts" are those I would most expect not to "get it." Now that you mentioned it.... There are several very vocal "pastors" who have yet utter a word about this sign...... It does make one wonder........... |
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Post by Gary on Jun 2, 2017 10:43:26 GMT -6
I've been praying earnestly that if we're wrong, we'll be sure to see why, and be willing to accept it ahead of time. But then everybody keeps finding more evidence! That's what gets me about this. Many people see and agree about the evidence in a way that has never happened before. For those of you that have been watching prophecy for more than a few years you know what I'm talking about. Plus, the icing on the cake for me is that the "Christians" who I would expect to miss the real thing are doing exactly that. The snake oil salesmen type preachers and television personalities... And the Ivory Tower types, too. The loud and proud suit wearing television "prophecy experts" are those I would most expect not to "get it." Really well said and really good point! |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2017 7:50:19 GMT -6
Isaiah 34:4Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
4 And all the host of heaven shall be dissolved,
and the heavens shall be rolled together as a scroll:
and all their host shall fall down,
as the leaf falleth off from the vine,
and as a falling fig from the fig tree.
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