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Post by Joecool on Feb 7, 2018 11:27:24 GMT -6
There are accounts by those who have visited heaven that there are "videos" in heaven, and that you can watch the Life of Jesus and others. If true, we can watch much of history. The life of Jesus would be epic and awe-inspiring. I'm sure we would all be in tears during the crucifixion and then leaping for joy during the resurrection. I wonder what heaven's version of HDTV would be.
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Post by kjs on Feb 7, 2018 14:47:06 GMT -6
There are accounts by those who have visited heaven that there are "videos" in heaven, and that you can watch the Life of Jesus and others. If true, we can watch much of history. The life of Jesus would be epic and awe-inspiring. I'm sure we would all be in tears during the crucifixion and then leaping for joy during the resurrection. I wonder what heaven's version of HDTV would be. I would go more with "Live TV" (which would include all the sights, sounds, smells -- that would occur as the actual event took place) Of course we all know it would not really be the "Live event" -- since we are told in scripture that He did it once and it was complete and He rested.....
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Post by Joecool on Feb 8, 2018 5:36:49 GMT -6
The life of Jesus would be epic and awe-inspiring. I'm sure we would all be in tears during the crucifixion and then leaping for joy during the resurrection. I wonder what heaven's version of HDTV would be. I would go more with "Live TV" (which would include all the sights, sounds, smells -- that would occur as the actual event took place) Of course we all know it would not really be the "Live event" -- since we are told in scripture that He did it once and it was complete and He rested..... "Live TV" never thought of that. That would/will be awesome and since will we have all eternity we will be able to watch every Bible story there is with a side of heavenly candy and popcorn. Random Side note: I don't have a sense of smell, so the 1st thing I smell will be in heaven
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Post by grandpaskitzo on Feb 10, 2018 17:37:06 GMT -6
I would go more with "Live TV" (which would include all the sights, sounds, smells -- that would occur as the actual event took place) Of course we all know it would not really be the "Live event" -- since we are told in scripture that He did it once and it was complete and He rested..... "Live TV" never thought of that. That would/will be awesome and since will we have all eternity we will be able to watch every Bible story there is with a side of heavenly candy and popcorn. Random Side note: I don't have a sense of smell, so the 1st thing I smell will be in heaven Not only that, but the first thing you truly taste will be in heaven! Half of taste is from smell.
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Post by Joecool on Feb 12, 2018 5:25:44 GMT -6
"Live TV" never thought of that. That would/will be awesome and since will we have all eternity we will be able to watch every Bible story there is with a side of heavenly candy and popcorn. Random Side note: I don't have a sense of smell, so the 1st thing I smell will be in heaven Not only that, but the first thing you truly taste will be in heaven! Half of taste is from smell. Didn't think of that. Cool. Thanks. I have a feeling we will be spending all of eternity experiencing new tastes, smells, sounds, and sights that nothing on this earth can compare to. 1 Corinthians 2:9: “Eye has not seen, nor ear heard, Nor have entered into the heart of man . The things which God has prepared for those who love Him.”
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Post by neural on Mar 15, 2018 21:08:27 GMT -6
Time is what we use as a measurement of movement/process. Some argue that time itself if a construct that exists purely because there is something in the universe (life) to observe it. I have considered God and heaven to exist outside of time for many years, but my mind has started to question if time itself is simply an aspect of the very existence of God.
A poor analogy: We, as humans, each have a scent. (for the purpose of analogy, I'm going to exclude the unique sent we each have that allows certain types of dogs to track us down). When you're out and about working in the yard or doing other physical labor, you put off a given scent. It may not be pleasant, but it is what it is. However, you can also take a shower, put on perfume or deoderant, etc., and *change* that scent. You can manipulate that scent.
Now, imagine that time is simply an aspect of God. Because *HE* exists, time exists. The thing we see as "time" dominates our world not because of anything inherent to it. It dominates our world because of sin and death. We live on average 80 tiny itty bitty little years. Our lives are a flash, and gone. From *our* perspective, time is a limiter. Ticking away the days until our proverbial end.
From the perspective of God, for Whom time simply exists because He does, this "timeline" we exist in (from Adam & Eve through White Throne Judgement) is infinitely short (by nature, that which can be measured is infinitely short compared to the infinite).
That John saw an eagle flying in heaven crying "Woe!" in regards to the judgments of God, indicates that time exists in one form or another in heaven. It may not be what we see it as now, but it is my opinion that time will eventually be revealed to be a testament to the eternal nature of God. Time exists, because God exists.
"I am the alpha and the Omega, the beginning, and the end." God has always been, always is, and always will be. In saying He is the beginning and the end, is either to say that He existed before His creation, and will exist after it, or to say that there has never been a beginning, and will not be an end. God's existence is absolute. I believe that there is a very very deep wisdom held within the very simple words of our God: "I Am".
I personally have my own view on what heaven may be like for us, and I'm confident that we're all going to be surprised by what it's really like, but for the benefit of friends I've created some scenarios that try to open the mind to the idea of eternity.
Example: If for some reason heaven is not all that different from our current life, but lacking sin, evil, etc., where Jesus reigns from the New City of Jerusalem, etc., the following is a way to consider what it means to live in a heaven where time is not something we have a limited amount of. Please note: this is speculation for the sake of example.
Let's say that in heaven, you don't just kneel at the throne and worship forever and ever. Let's say for a moment that glorifying God is not just praise, but using the talents God has given you to glorify Him through what you choose to do for Him. And we'll say that you have chosen to glorify God by building him a full size replica of Noah's Ark. Being eternal means that if you choose to do so, you can find a field, plant a single seed, and then wait 500 years for the tree to grow. Then you cut it down, and make it into a single beautiful plank. You put the plank into a storage area, and then go into the field and plant another seed. Seed by seed, tree by tree, you could rebuild the ark. It would take tens of thousands of years, if not more, but *you have time*.
(rabbit trail: If heaven isn't solely worship, and if there is socializing, and humor, I suspect there may very well be some epic staring contests)
Other things, again using a sinless version of what we know as life right now, that change when time is no longer binding us: -with some exceptions perhaps, we won't need planes, cars, boats, or even bicycles. With no night time to fear, no sin to cause trouble, and no timelines to meet, you could simply choose to walk the circumference of the earth. -impatience will be a non-factor. If you choose to move a mountain from one side of a valley to another using only a teaspoon, you have time to do that. -with no aging, no death, no disease, and so on, the "rush rush rush" we are so bound to here in this world will no longer hold us back.
Again, no guarantee of what things will be like for sure. I have my ideas, but they are likely folly compared to the truth.
If you really look into eternity, you start to realize why God seems to be so fond of teaching us patience in our lives here. It's because eternity is a loooooong time.
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Post by Joecool on Mar 16, 2018 7:56:40 GMT -6
I figure there will be time in heaven because of the verse in Revelation that talks about silence in heaven for half an hour. I do like the idea of not being bound by time. Hallelujah for no more rushing. We have all of eternity to spend time with loved ones and meeting new people or we could spend time chiseling a mountain into a sculpture for God's glory. Think of all the skills we will have time to learn. As far as cars go remember when God teleport/transported Philip in Acts. Hopefully we will be able to do something like that. That way no matter where we are in the universe we can get back for the feast days. If eternity does have time, do yall think our glorified bodies will remember something that would happens a million years apart?
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Post by grandpaskitzo on Mar 16, 2018 9:38:58 GMT -6
"I am the alpha and the Omega, the beginning, and the end." God has always been, always is, and always will be. In saying He is the beginning and the end, is either to say that He existed before His creation, and will exist after it, or to say that there has never been a beginning, and will not be an end. God's existence is absolute. I believe that there is a very very deep wisdom held within the very simple words of our God: "I Am". I Am Those two words, I Am, are the most profound words. Think about it another way; when God says I Am, He’s saying much more than just stating His existence and much to do about time. He’s also stating about His character. When we say something to somebody, telling them who we are, we say things like ‘I’m a truth teller, I don’t lie’, or ‘I’m a hardworking person’, or ‘I’m a kind and loving person’; what we’re really saying is that we strive to be that. None of us are perfect. So inherently we lie when we say those things, not because we willfully lie, but because we aren’t the epitome of those attributes. God is! When He says I Am, He’s stating that His word is true and absolute, it’s unchanging, He’s unchanging, and His word is always truthful on every level. He isn’t striving to be what He says and He doesn’t try to do what He says, He is The I Am! When we say those things and truly strive to be what we say, we’re actually striving to be like God. And only He can make those words we speak true because it’s through His imputed righteousness that we can obtain those attributes. Truly the most marvelous and profound words to ever be heard. That’s just one direction in which those words describe Him.
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