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Post by Gary on Oct 30, 2017 12:47:07 GMT -6
So, this is of course speculation. We should always be watchful because of how close we are getting to you know what, but there are some specific dates drawing near that increasingly have my attention. Specifically 11/3 - Vayera and 11/13 - Jupiter-Venus conjunction. Vayera "He Appeared" is 40 days after the Great Sign and 11/13 is 50 days after the Great Sign. Christ ascended 40 days after the resurrection and sent the Holy Spirit 50 days after the resurrection. It looks like bookends to the Church Age to me. 11/13 is 777 days since the Tabernacles Super Blood Moon, 444 days since the last Jupiter-Venus conjunction, and 12 weeks exact since the Great American Eclipse. It is also Shemini Atzeret *if* the barley harvest was delayed. On top of that, it turns out that 11/13 is the actual 500th anniversary of the Reformation - reason being that the Reformation began on 10/31 in 1517, decades before the Gregorian calendar was introduced. It was still the Julian calendar. There is presently a 13 day difference between Julian and Gregorian calendars, such that 11/13 Gregorian is actually 10/31 Julian this year. There is some interesting discussion of this in the comments here: www.unsealed.org/2017/10/breaking-abbas-says-hamas-ministers.html |
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Post by kjs on Oct 30, 2017 13:11:41 GMT -6
On top of that, it turns out that 11/13 is the actual 500th anniversary of the Reformation - reason being that the Reformation began on 10/31 in 1517, decades before the Gregorian calendar was introduced. It was still the Julian calendar. There is presently a 13 day difference between Julian and Gregorian calendars, such that 11/13 Gregorian is actually 10/31 Julian this year. Now that is brand new news to me -- I had no notion that those calendars were that different and with a 13 day difference. Thanks for Sharing |
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Post by nana on Oct 30, 2017 14:06:07 GMT -6
I read somewhere or heard on a video that Tuesday is the day most/many Jews get married.
Didn't the wedding in Cana take place on the 3rd day which would be a Tuesday? And wasn't this the first miracle Jesus openly shown?
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Post by sesquipedalian on Oct 30, 2017 16:32:05 GMT -6
Gary, in your article you called the Jupiter-Venus conjunction "post-birth". I wonder if that's the wrong way to look at it. Going through some old threads I found a fascinating post by brad : Here is a chart of the 3 birthing signs we have been discussing. All 3 of the signs have 1 thing in common, A day count from the start of Jupiter’s retrograde until a Jupiter/Venus conjunction lasting within the plus or minus 2 weeks of the 280 day normal human gestation cycle. Read the entire quoted post, including the attachment. We all found the 3915 BC sign interesting; but the "birth", judging by the boundaries of the constellation, seemed to take place after too short a gestation. But using the start and end events that brad identifies, it falls perfectly in range. Using this as a clue, the Star of Bethlehem also fits. Maybe these point to the proper fulfillment of the 2017 signs! |
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Post by yardstick on Oct 30, 2017 19:43:43 GMT -6
Gary, in your article you called the Jupiter-Venus conjunction "post-birth". I wonder if that's the wrong way to look at it. Going through some old threads I found a fascinating post by brad : Here is a chart of the 3 birthing signs we have been discussing. All 3 of the signs have 1 thing in common, A day count from the start of Jupiter’s retrograde until a Jupiter/Venus conjunction lasting within the plus or minus 2 weeks of the 280 day normal human gestation cycle. Read the entire quoted post, including the attachment. We all found the 3915 BC sign interesting; but the "birth", judging by the boundaries of the constellation, seemed to take place after too short a gestation. But using the start and end events that brad identifies, it falls perfectly in range. Using this as a clue, the Star of Bethlehem also fits. Maybe these point to the proper fulfillment of the 2017 signs! Can you post the link please? Or elaborate? I find this interesting. |
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Post by linda on Oct 30, 2017 20:24:17 GMT -6
Gary, in your article you called the Jupiter-Venus conjunction "post-birth". I wonder if that's the wrong way to look at it. Going through some old threads I found a fascinating post by brad : Read the entire quoted post, including the attachment. We all found the 3915 BC sign interesting; but the "birth", judging by the boundaries of the constellation, seemed to take place after too short a gestation. But using the start and end events that brad identifies, it falls perfectly in range. Using this as a clue, the Star of Bethlehem also fits. Maybe these point to the proper fulfillment of the 2017 signs! Can you post the link please? Or elaborate? I find this interesting. Here it is, yardstick. I had to look it up, too. unsealed.boards.net/thread/785/rapture-spaghetti-model?page=3&scrollTo=10380 |
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Post by sesquipedalian on Oct 31, 2017 0:02:23 GMT -6
Can you post the link please? Or elaborate? I find this interesting. Oh, if you click on the date/time within the quote box, it will take you to the original post. |
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Post by jlr1701 on Oct 31, 2017 0:24:14 GMT -6
Can I be the voice of caution here, at least maybe a little?
I agree with everyone that the rapture appears to be very close indeed, but I personally have grown tired of the date setting and the justifications for the various dates that have come and... passed uneventfully. September 23rd, which I agree was the Revelation 12 sign, but it wasn't the rapture, obviously. And then it was going to be September 30th... nope again. And then I think there were some early and mid-October dates and I heard something about a barley harvest that changed the timing of a feast. I can't remember which one. I'm too tired given that it's 1:10 am here in Texas right now. Now I understand that the rapture could have been today and it might be tomorrow. If not, then November 3rd. And if that doesn't pan out... then what?
I'm frustrated more than upset, and the last thing I want to do is upset or offend anybody here. I lurk a lot and don't post much usually. But my concern is with how silly we look to the unbelieving world when we set date after date after date, with all sorts of neat number coincidences and other justifications for each date, and the Big Event fails to materialize.
This is how I choose to approach the rapture watch that is so justifiably going on right now. We all know the signs of the times in which we are living. We KNOW that we are in the season of Christ's return! We feel like the Lord just can't wait too much longer to crack the sky and take us Home! But I just can't get too excited about yet another date. I would LOVE for the rapture to occur on November 3rd. But regardless, I am going to live for the Lord Jesus Christ and shine the Light of His glorious Gospel everywhere I can and to everyone that I can. My Facebook Wall has become a 24/7 Gospel channel, lol... I anxiously await the return of my great God and Savior Jesus Christ, but until that glorious time comes, I will live for Him on this earth and pray that He will be glorified in my life.
I hope y'all understand where I'm coming from. The date setting was fun for a while and I got really excited along with everyone else, but now I have grown tired of it, and I don't want to get my hopes up for yet another rapture date, only to be disappointed one more time...
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Post by mike on Oct 31, 2017 6:19:36 GMT -6
Can I be the voice of caution here, at least maybe a little? I agree with everyone that the rapture appears to be very close indeed, but I personally have grown tired of the date setting and the justifications for the various dates that have come and... passed uneventfully. September 23rd, which I agree was the Revelation 12 sign, but it wasn't the rapture, obviously. And then it was going to be September 30th... nope again. And then I think there were some early and mid-October dates and I heard something about a barley harvest that changed the timing of a feast. I can't remember which one. I'm too tired given that it's 1:10 am here in Texas right now. Now I understand that the rapture could have been today and it might be tomorrow. If not, then November 3rd. And if that doesn't pan out... then what? I'm frustrated more than upset, and the last thing I want to do is upset or offend anybody here. I lurk a lot and don't post much usually. But my concern is with how silly we look to the unbelieving world when we set date after date after date, with all sorts of neat number coincidences and other justifications for each date, and the Big Event fails to materialize. This is how I choose to approach the rapture watch that is so justifiably going on right now. We all know the signs of the times in which we are living. We KNOW that we are in the season of Christ's return! We feel like the Lord just can't wait too much longer to crack the sky and take us Home! But I just can't get too excited about yet another date. I would LOVE for the rapture to occur on November 3rd. But regardless, I am going to live for the Lord Jesus Christ and shine the Light of His glorious Gospel everywhere I can and to everyone that I can. My Facebook Wall has become a 24/7 Gospel channel, lol... I anxiously await the return of my great God and Savior Jesus Christ, but until that glorious time comes, I will live for Him on this earth and pray that He will be glorified in my life. I hope y'all understand where I'm coming from. The date setting was fun for a while and I got really excited along with everyone else, but now I have grown tired of it, and I don't want to get my hopes up for yet another rapture date, only to be disappointed one more time... +1 EDIT - still excited and still looking/watching, but if tomorrow comes and goes I will continue to look & watch. Not resting my hopes in a date or timeframe, but there is much to keep an eye on |
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Post by MikeTaft on Oct 31, 2017 7:03:33 GMT -6
I was disappointed after Sept. 23rd because I wasn't really looking beyond that day for a rapture. However, No matter what dates are presented I am expectant every day. While I'm expectant I am doing my best to occupy and be after the Lord's will. Ever minute of every day is a chance to live for God and share the good news with whomever will listen while we still have time.
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Post by hopeful on Oct 31, 2017 10:07:02 GMT -6
It was hard to see important dates (9/23 especially) come and go, but if we truly believe we're nearing the end of this age I think it would be strange to avoid looking at certain dates closely. I know a number of people, including some Christians, who would think we're crazy that we believe Jesus is coming soon in the first place. Or that we're naive and backward enough to be Christians at all. Scoffers have always scoffed, but pretty soon the lies of this age will be over. Maybe on the 3rd! And if not, we'll keep plugging along. Hope you all have a good day  |
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Post by mike on Oct 31, 2017 10:42:07 GMT -6
It was hard to see important dates (9/23 especially) come and go, but if we truly believe we're nearing the end of this age I think it would be strange to avoid looking at certain dates closely. I know a number of people, including some Christians, who would think we're crazy that we believe Jesus is coming soon in the first place. Or that we're naive and backward enough to be Christians at all. Scoffers have always scoffed, but pretty soon the lies of this age will be over. Maybe on the 3rd! And if not, we'll keep plugging along. Hope you all have a good day I'm sure this has been someplace many times but worth repeating (IMO) - the sign was a fulfillment of the Word of GOD! the stars aligned just as John wrote in Revelation 2000 years ago. Isnt that something to be excited about |
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Post by hopeful on Oct 31, 2017 10:51:24 GMT -6
Amen, Mike!!
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Post by claire on Oct 31, 2017 11:06:52 GMT -6
After Sep 23, I basically lost track of things. : ( All the date and number counting flew right over my head. First of all, Sep 23 Rev 12 Sign was supposed to be significant because it was 1 in 6000 years and then it was a higher watch time because it happened to be around a feast day, right? When nothing happened, all kinds of theories started popping out. Delayed Feast Day, barley harvest, wrong calendar, error in calendar....each one kicking the possible day down from Sep to Oct to Nov. I am totally confused. If there is something wrong with the calendar, or a wrong calendar has been used, or a wrong way of determining the feast day caused the error, then won't it render everything else wrong. Rev 12 sign lost some of its significance because it just got disconnected from a feast day association.
I wanted to ask if someone could explain to me but on second thought, I think I will not do that because I am quite sure the explanations will be over my head again.
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Post by Natalie on Oct 31, 2017 11:16:17 GMT -6
Claire - I think that all you need to know is that Sept 23 matched what John saw in Revelation 12, the Bible is true, and God is in control. Jesus is coming soon. Just focus on those things and walk with Him. I am watching every day because I know it has got to be soon. |
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