I also like your idea that the "white for harvest" may be about us. If you look at the other times that word "white" is used, it is the white stone, the white horse, white robes, etc. There may be something there!
That is an interesting note of there being 70 references to white!
I read the last verse about "white" in the link you provided and noticed the 120 number again. These guys had harps, which made me think of what witness1 and I were posting about yesterday with the 24 elders mentioned in Revelations. Finally, the verse after mentions the glory of God being a cloud, which reminds me of the rapture cloud references.
2 Chronicles 5:12-13 Also the Levites which were the singers, all of them of Asaph, of Heman, of Jeduthun, with their sons and their brethren, being arrayed in white linen, having cymbals and psalteries and harps, stood at the east end of the altar, and with them an hundred and twenty priests sounding with trumpets:)
It came even to pass, as the trumpeters and singers were as one, to make one sound to be heard in praising and thanking the LORD; and when they lifted up their voice with the trumpets and cymbals and instruments of musick, and praised the LORD, saying, For he is good; for his mercy endureth for ever: that then the house was filled with a cloud, even the house of the LORD;
1 Thessalonians 4:17 - Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
I thought the verses scheduled to be read may be quite fitting for those hearing them.
I googled it as soon as i heard about 1/21. I did it and i still do it to get a feel for how popular the idea is. Remember last year there were loads of youtube videos with people saying the rapture could be on Hanukkah or Christmas. I don't really see too much excitement this time, maybe that's a good thing?
I think about this thread all the time since it came out. I meant to tell kmboitae that i liked the video he posted. The people seemed humble, just everyday regular people. I liked what the woman said about we all might have a piece of the puzzle.
I think that the appointed time of the end started already, but not everything was what they told us it would be. The falling away, the man of sin taking his seat and the abomination of desolation were meant for the reader to understand. But when Jesus said: "for then there would be great tribulation", He probably was not talking about the whole of the 1260 day time span. Because it's the worst time ever, since the beginning of the world until now, nor ever shall be..
The flood in Noah's days was the only worst time that there's ever been until now. Estimates of the tribulation of those days can range from 364.5 to 378 days that Noah spent inside the ark. Genesis 7 seemed to be very particular of the timing of that event. Why is Genesis so careful to record the exact days and dates concerning the flood. In the six hundredth year of Noah’s life, on the seventeenth day of the second month—on that day all the springs of the great deep burst forth, and the floodgates of the heavens were opened.
This might seem like a peculiar thing to record. And it persists throughout the story - further dates are given in 8:4, 8:5, 8:13, and 8:14. No other dates are recorded like this in Genesis as best I can tell. So I doubt that our end time time of trouble could possibly be of any greater duration of days otherwise no flesh would be saved alive.
I still can count 365 days until January 21, and after that i will have to continue looking.
Good job on spotting the 11/13, which could also be 11/12. Either one works for me. Because the first people on the planet to see the "darkened" sun will be on a Saturday on around 11PM. The last people to see it conclude will be somewhere else on Earth on a Sunday at around 4AM. This gives me a little wiggle room and even if i'm right about the "darkened" sun and moon that will not give her light, i still can't know which day or hour
Luke 10:1-2 1 After these things the Lord appointed other seventy also, and sent them two and two before his face into every city and place, whither he himself would come. 2Therefore said he unto them, The harvest truly is great, but the labourers are few: pray ye therefore the Lord of the harvest, that he would send forth labourers into his harvest.
I think the 70 number goes well with this thread, as we have found there to be 70 Bible verses with the word white "leukos", which has been hopefully connected to 4 month's before the harvest festival of Pentacost, which may have been what Jesus was referencing, when he said the harvest would be ready 4 months before the harvest is said to be ready.
Don't forget our other finding that the symbolic finish of the "Rev. 12 Sign's story" with the Jupiter/Venus conjunction on 11/13/17, comes 70 days before 1/21/18.
I am excited! 153, 120, 70. God is awesome. I so hope to see him face to face this coming weekend. Granted my heart goes out to the lost, but I believe every single one of his sheep will hear his voice. Not a single one will slip out of his hand.
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I read an interesting idea from a post on watchman on the wall about 1/21/18. Consider the following verses.
Luke 13:5-9 5I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish. 6He spake also this parable; A certain man had a fig tree planted in his vineyard; and he came and sought fruit thereon, and found none. 7Then said he unto the dresser of his vineyard, Behold, these three years I come seeking fruit on this fig tree, and find none: cut it down; why cumbereth it the ground? 8And he answering said unto him, Lord, let it alone this year also, till I shall dig about it, and dung it: 9And if it bear fruit, well: and if not, then after that thou shalt cut it down.
I idea was that Trump's presidency may correlate to the "let it alone this year" while the fig tree is spared for 1 more year, before potentially being cut down. Trump was inaugurated on 1/20/2017, so 1/21/18 would be the 1st full day of his second year in office. Also, I have no qualms at all identifying the prior 3 years as bearing no fruit, with Obama at the helm.
Another interesting verse in Luke that may be relevant is the following:
18And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.
The same way there’s an English word for robot. I’m not saying there was a word for robot at the time the Bible was written, but Greek is still around today and I’m sure they have a word just like we do.
Yeah, I have no idea how gematria works. I always thought it was dumb, but I admit I am seeing some things spelled out even though I am firmly against using to affect any sort of theology or hope. Just throwing out an idea for people who are into this and understand how it works since this verse seems to say we are to somehow calculate the number of the beast.
I am not into gematria either and Bible codes based on a HNS (hebrew numeric skip) value, fall into the same catagory for me. My mind is simply not able to grasp them fully, so I tend to glaze over them, even though what I have seen and read makes me feel that they are not coincidence.
Nevertheless, consider the following verses.
John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
Colossians 1:18-19 18And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence. 19For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;
In my opinion, "the Word was made flesh" implies that the Bible is every bit as much Jesus, as the "flesh and blood that he became for us was Jesus. Therefore, knowing that Jesus is God, and that God is omniscient, I don't think it takes much faith to believe that the Word contains just as much acknowledge as God himself.
That means the Word (notice the capital letter) has to contain everything! How could such knowledge be possible? Well, my speculation is that an infinite number of functions/algorithms/name your fancy math permutation here, can be applied to God's Word, to yield all knowledge.
The bottom line for me is that we see through a darkened glass and don't get the whole picture right now. Nevertheless, we can still get a glimpse of the Word's limitless truth, through mathematically observed outcomes such as gematria and bible codes, but interpreting such information correctly is a whole other story. It'll all work out for us in the end.
1 Corinthians 13:12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.
Servant: EnochWalked: Not a problem, Netanyahu and Trump are probably the 'last' stand before the political chaos to be unleashed upon the world. Maybe? And the China virus, warrant an attention on it for any further mutation.
Jan 21, 2020 20:20:07 GMT -6
Servant: leewiggins63: Please provide the link, thanks.
Jan 21, 2020 20:21:44 GMT -6
EnochWalked: Thanks Servant, and thanks Lee for the link. I've traced that "10 Supernations" map/idea back to this article from 2009: www.cuttingedge.org/news/n2363.cfm It seems to have been related to just NAFTA originally, so nothing specific to the USMCA.
Jan 21, 2020 21:13:51 GMT -6
leewiggins63: Thanks EW, first article that I've seen concerning the 10 horns.
Jan 21, 2020 21:30:12 GMT -6
Servant: All the world leaders attending in Israel sure makes it perfect target for some kind of attack to wipe them all out. Or Rapture. Either way, chaos would reign the day.
Jan 21, 2020 23:07:40 GMT -6
Servant: While people are saying, “Peace and security,” destruction will come upon them suddenly, 1 Thessalonians 5:3. Could the peace plan in Israel be it? I could be wrong and it means something else. Either way, . . .
Jan 21, 2020 23:09:57 GMT -6
Natalie: Servant - I have been wondering that too.
Jan 22, 2020 8:47:23 GMT -6
Natalie: Or the dwelling safely of Ez 38
Jan 22, 2020 8:48:58 GMT -6
Natalie: I am also wondering if it will provide a way for the Temple.
Jan 22, 2020 8:54:02 GMT -6
Servant: Natalie: Yes, I thought about it. But I debate posting it as I don't want to raise the hopes too high. Still, to think the possibilities. . .
Jan 22, 2020 9:48:35 GMT -6
disciple4life: Hello Leewiggings63, others, What is USMCA?? Anyone else read any credible reports about the so-called "Trump peace plan imminent?" There is an article on the main page, but no sources. Lots of speculation and conjecture that it divides Israel.
Jan 22, 2020 16:04:20 GMT -6
disciple4life: We've been reading about the "imminent reveal" since March of last Year. If the speculation and gossip were true and it gave land to the Leprechauns, this doesn't start the tribulation. Why are so many people up in arms about this.??
Jan 22, 2020 16:16:31 GMT -6
disciple4life: If we see construction or surveying begin on the 3rd temple, then I think people have reason to get excited. but this - Meh.
Jan 22, 2020 16:17:05 GMT -6
disciple4life: Natalie, I'm curious re your thoughts about the connection betw the deal and the temple. I've read some theories that it could include land for the Jordanian Arabs aka Leprechauns in exchange for the Jews getting space on/near temp mt to build 3rd temple.?
Jan 22, 2020 18:50:42 GMT -6
Natalie: D4L It's just speculation. Trying to guess the future. I know that some see Trump as a type of Cyrus, as maybe someone who could get an agreement for the building of the Temple. I have no idea if that's in the deal but it would be interesting if it was
Jan 22, 2020 19:49:14 GMT -6
EnochWalked: www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/274937 "senior officials said Netanyahu did not announce Likud's election campaign Tuesday night because he is waiting until next week to bring the issue of [Jordan Valley] sovereignty for a Knesset vote."
Jan 22, 2020 20:19:10 GMT -6