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Post by cwood85 on Jul 7, 2017 17:58:07 GMT -6
Hi everyone,
Recently I have come back to faith and following of the Lord Jesus Christ. I was saved as a teenager and fell away (but did not stop believing) due to a hard and troubled family life and traumatic events.
When I was a child my mother and grandma always had my sisters and I involved in church and we went every Sunday. The church I attended was baptist and preached the gospel and the rapture. I have always believed in a pre trib rapture and so did my mom. However after now over a decade of me not attending church, nor touching my bible I have forgotten many of the wonderful scriptures I used to know from the bible.
I was recently discussing some of the bible and the great sign with my mother and learned that she now believes in post trib and that the book of Revelation has happened many times over throughout history. Where does this come from?!?
She was pretty dismissive to what I was talking about in regards to the great sign and uninterested. So I asked then if she thinks there have been multiple anti christ? How can someone claim to understand the book of Revelation and belive this? Please give me some answers in regards to this. It threw me for a loop. I am certainly no bible scholar, but this belief comes from my aunt who can get into some really extreme information and snow balls off of it.
I have recently started attending church again with my mom which is a different church from my childhood and feel they are a church that is asleep. The general atmoshpere is pretty low key and very into community outreach programs. Which is fine, but it seems this is the case for many churches around me. Not knocking it, just looking for some answers towards this.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2017 18:18:30 GMT -6
Hey,cwood85! Welcome to the board! Is your mother open to receiving truth? If not, all the facts in the world will change her mind. Pray first. I don't know much about this, but you have to pray. I'm sure others will provide. Until then, I'll just be a person who will pray for you! Thank you for posting.
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Post by whatif on Jul 7, 2017 19:41:35 GMT -6
Welcome to the forum, cwood85! We're so glad you've joined us! Yes, that is a difficult one when your family has a different view of Bible prophecy than you do... I agree with Beloved that prayer is the key. People who are set in their ways and in their views can yet have changes of heart as the Lord answers our prayers and works to soften up their hearts toward truth. I agree that the idea that the book of Revelation has played out over and over again in history doesn't make a great amount of sense, though I do see in history that there have been many "types" of antichrist and "types" of tribulation periods (one such being Hitler and the Holocaust). But the many events and details of the book of Revelation have never yet been fully played out, only shadows of it in types that give us glimpses into the nature of the horrors of the period to come. Does your mom feel the entirety of the book of Revelation has occurred over and over again, or does she possibly just see the types that have risen throughout history? But over all, in the end, even should your mom continue to hold a different view of Bible prophecy, the most important matter is whether she knows the Lord. If she knows the Lord, she--like us--will all come to see where we've been correct and where we've been incorrect in our prophetic theories as the Lord's plan unfolds.
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Post by cwood85 on Jul 7, 2017 20:13:45 GMT -6
Thank you for the responses and prayers. I will continue to pray. I am not wanting to change my mothers opinion or viewpoint by anymeans. That is hers to decide what to do with. I was just surprised as she used to be so excited about the rapture!
I asked her before God opened my eyes and He demanded that I wake up and smell the coffee, if she felt that the world was changing and fast. If she noticed a rapid acceleration and excitement or something was coming or was just different? She said no. I was a little dissheartened. I do not worry about her meeting the Lord, she believes in him with all of her heart. However I honestly felt like I was going crazy. I knew I was not imagining this. God called me, literally snapped me back over night. I picked my bible up from the shelf and havent put it down since and pray daily. God has healed and helped me so much in the last couple of months. He has saved my life. So I took to the internet to see if others felt this way and WOW! I find amazing websites like this, you tube channels about the great sign and people relating in the same way. There is certainly something about to happen.
I will pray for my mother and family. I just want to share this joy and excitement with her and hope that she can feel it as well.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2017 20:35:00 GMT -6
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Post by watchmanjim on Jul 7, 2017 21:53:05 GMT -6
Welcome, Cwood85! I'm sorry your mom believes the way she does, but keep praying for her. Sometimes people get very weary in their Christian walk and start giving in to whatever voices are loudest, and they leave off searching for truth in the Bible and just accept what is easiest to accept at the time. It's sad, but, as you've seen in your own life, it is reversible! Although I may not have departed as much as you did, the Lord snapped me around more or less like He did with you, about 2 years ago. Ever since then, I have been a new man before the Lord. Praise Him for how He works in us! It is hard to be a voice crying in the wilderness, sister, but you are among friends here.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2017 14:40:41 GMT -6
Welcome cwood85! I'm dealing with something similar but different. Very difficult to deal with . m.youtube.com/watch?v=This is part 4 of a serires. Maybe you could watch them with her.
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Post by Gary on Jul 8, 2017 20:19:47 GMT -6
Welcome to the board, cwood85. I love testimonies like yours. I think kjs has spoken about Belivers in your shoes before. The LORD always draws His children back when we wander. I've wandered many times. Regarding post-trib beliefs, you might start your mom off with this: www.unsealed.org/2017/06/in-moment-10-reasons-i-believe-in-pre.html
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Post by paul on Jul 9, 2017 2:41:55 GMT -6
Welcome cwood85! The primary reason that many believers in this kind of lethargic state is that they have been robbed of the Blessed Hope. Many simply don't know how good the Lord is so they expect the worse from Him and think that He will judge them during the tribulation period. There is no need to go through the times of trials for those who believe in Jesus as their Savior. Jesus already received all the punishment of the Law on our behalf. Sometimes we can just remind believers how good, awesome and gracious our Lord is and the Blessed Hope will come back to their life. It is written that "the goodness of God leads you to repentance". (Rom 2:4) Repentance in Greek is metanoia, which means changing of mind/heart. Anyway, even if the believer confused about the rapture and end of days he will be raptured with every other believer. Apostle Paul said: "God did not appoint us to wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ. Who died for us, that whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with Him." I pray that the Lord enlightens the eyes of your Mom's heart to His goodness "that she may know what is the hope of His calling, what are the riches of the glory of His inheritance in the saints and what is the exceeding greatness of His power toward us who believe..."
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