andrew
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Post by andrew on Aug 21, 2020 18:47:50 GMT -6
Good stuff Nat! Gunna be busy watching videos I see. I just saw this the other day! I wish I'd found it before I made this...
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Post by Natalie on Aug 22, 2020 14:09:37 GMT -6
Video 9 is a little different but is interesting. He walks through the book of Matthew looking at the word "fulfilled". It helps to show how there can be one-to-one direct fulfillment of prophecy and how there are types and just a variety of things that goes on. I'm just going to put two examples I thought were interesting. Matthew is very smart in how he uses the OT, and sometimes we might not get it right away. So, these two were passages that might need just a little more thought or explanation (especially the second one). First is Psalm 78. It's a long Psalm and recounts many things that God did. Some lines very much reflect Christ - like 32 "In spite of all this, they still sinned; despite His wonders, they did not believe," and 38 "Yet He, being compassionate, atoned for their iniquity". But back to how Matthew uses it. (Matthew 13:35) It was pointed out that sometimes Matthew quotes from the Septuagint and sometimes from the Hebrew and sometimes he changes them a bit and improves their translation. Psalm 78:2 says "I will open my mouth in a parable; I will utter dark sayings from old." Matthew translates it to say, "I will open my mouth in parables; I will utter what has been hidden since the foundation of the world." There might be a bit more then just - Jesus taught by parable. Yes, that's true, but considering the whole psalm, and Matthew's translation, it shows that there is hidden truth in the Law and miracles that God had done throughout Israel's history, and even throughout mankind's history. Jesus is continuing this by hiding truth in the things He is saying and doing, but it also shows that the OT is a mystery that reveals Jesus.
Second one is Matthew 27:3-10. This is the passage of Judas taking the 30 pieces of silver to the priests and elders who buy the potter's field as a burial place for strangers. Matthew states that this was to fulfill what Jeremiah says, but then Matthew quotes from Zech 11:13 but adds the word "field" after potter. So, why did Matthew get the source wrong? Well, it's a common Jewish teaching tool - quote two prophets but only mention one. In this case, Matthew quotes the more obscure link before quoting the obvious one.
To start with the more obvious one - the story in Zechariah is that he had become a shepherd to the people who were doomed for slaughter. The people reject him, so he quits. He then asks them for his wages, and they give him 30 pieces of silver. Verse 13 is written in an interesting way and seems like God is saying they priced Him at 30 pieces of silver - "Then the LORD said to me, 'Throw it to the potter' - the lordly price at which I was priced by them." (but it wasn't a lordly price at all!)
But how is Matthew connecting all this to Jeremiah? It's by the word "potter." It points to chapters 18 and 19. God sends Jeremiah to the potter's house. He sees the potter make a vessel, some how it gets spoiled but since it is still soft, he reworks it. God is the potter, and Israel the soft clay pot. He has declared that disaster is coming, but if they return to Him and change their ways, then He will rebuild them. Israel refuses. God tells Jeremiah then to take some of the leaders and go buy a finished vessel (flask). He's to tell them disaster is coming and because Israel did not return to God He will break them like one breaks a potter's vessel.
In Jesus, God is giving them another chance to return, to be the soft clay. But, they refuse and have become a hardened vessel. So again destruction is coming (70 AD). And just like the potter's field became known as the Field of Blood the area Jeremiah took the leaders to (Valley of the Son of Hinnom, aka Topheth) would be known as the Valley of Slaughter. Both places also became a place of burial.
So, Matthew seems to be pointing them back to something in their history that would make everything have a deeper meaning. We don't see it until we dig deeper.
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Post by Natalie on Aug 25, 2020 11:22:19 GMT -6
video 10 is on Moses...I might come back to it later video 11 is taking a look at Hebrews 11. Something to consider - Could each of these be pointing to something about Jesus? Abel -- see Matthew 23:25 His sacrifice was accepted by God. He was one of the righteous who was murdered. Enoch -- pleased God and was taken into heaven Abraham - that's probably a whole post on it's own. Sarah -- had a promised child with a miraculous birth Jericho -- by faith the walls came down --> Jesus does the work / Rahab a Gentile was rescued because of faith I may come back with some more thoughts later (gotta go help kids with school work), but I thought it was an interesting thought to consider.
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Post by venge on Aug 26, 2020 7:06:54 GMT -6
Good stuff Nat! Gunna be busy watching videos I see. Here's one I just found/watched. 7000 year timeline theory. I thought it was compelling. Just watched the video. Very interesting on ancient script. I did take note towards the end of it that he says the Great Tribulation will happen at 2023. Guess we will wait and see =P Gonna save his video till 2024!
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Post by uscgvet on Aug 26, 2020 8:41:28 GMT -6
Good stuff Nat! Gunna be busy watching videos I see. Here's one I just found/watched. 7000 year timeline theory. I thought it was compelling. Just watched the video. Very interesting on ancient script. I did take note towards the end of it that he says the Great Tribulation will happen at 2023. Guess we will wait and see =P Gonna save his video till 2024! Take the meat, spit out the bones. I feel there is good intel in this video. All of this we look at are convergences. Confirmations. We have got to be getting close to the end. His approach is still anchored at some focal date. So is Brenda Weltner. Those anchors that they use are best guesses. I think it would be a mistake to be overly dogmatic on them.
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Post by venge on Aug 26, 2020 19:17:10 GMT -6
Just watched the video. Very interesting on ancient script. I did take note towards the end of it that he says the Great Tribulation will happen at 2023. Guess we will wait and see =P Gonna save his video till 2024! Take the meat, spit out the bones. I feel there is good intel in this video. All of this we look at are convergences. Confirmations. We have got to be getting close to the end. His approach is still anchored at some focal date. So is Brenda Weltner. Those anchors that they use are best guesses. I think it would be a mistake to be overly dogmatic on them. Im still waiting for the man of sin to be revealed. Till then, I keep on keeping on with Christ. BTW, it had a lot of bones...😛
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Post by Natalie on Aug 26, 2020 19:47:07 GMT -6
ok, lets keep this on topic. both Weltner and the man of sin are being discussed in other threads. We can start a thread on that video if there is enough interest to discuss it further.
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Post by Natalie on Aug 26, 2020 20:03:20 GMT -6
How David is a type... (I didn't re-watch or re-listen to this one, so just going off some of my notes.)
From the OT we know that the Messiah will come from Jesse and from Bethlehem. 1 Samuel 16 introduces Jesse the Bethlehemite, and God is going to provided for Himself "a king among His sons" vs 1
David is a shepherd. From various Scriptures, it is part of his identity. Jesus is the Good Shepherd (Micah 5:2 a ruler will come that will shepherd the people)
1 Samuel 16:13 Samuel anoints David "and the Spirit of the LORD rushed upon David from that day forward." The Spirit descended on Jesus at His baptism.
I thought this comparison was interesting - the fight with Goliath: 1st he bruises Goliath's head (Gen 3:15) and then he comes with a sword (Rev 19:15)
There is a comparison using David's time with the Philistines in chapter 27. David had went to those Gentiles and were accepted by them, but he was also still helping the Jews. David wasn't altogether honest with the Gentiles (Philistines) but we know that Jesus is always better than the types that point to Him.
At the end of 2 Samuel, David intercedes for the people with a sacrifice. This threshing floor is at Mr. Moriah where Solomon will build the Temple. It's also where Abraham offered Isaac.
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Post by Natalie on Sept 1, 2020 19:48:17 GMT -6
video 14 is about the tabernacle. I found this one to be really interesting. Here are some notes I made:
Inside the ark – 10 commandments → Jesus moral perfection manna → John 6:32-33 Jesus is true bread, John 6:49-51 Aaron's rod that budded → Num 18:1 God chose Aaron and his job was to bear iniquity; Acts 17:31 God chose Jesus and raised Him from the dead
top of the ark – There is an empty space because nothing could represent God (Jesus shows us the Father) Blood is placed on the mercy seat on the DOA Heb 9:6-14
Table of the show bread – 12 loaves = 12 tribes wine with frankincense reminds us of communion
Lampstand – almond – it blooms before any of the other trees, starting in winter – bring life when all looks dead the only light John 8:12 Jesus is the light of the world hammered work – Jesus was beaten Is 53:4-8 the olive oil was also beaten - Gethsemane “The Olive Press” - Ex 27:20 Jesus was crushed “pressed” so that the Holy Spirit may come, be given to us, and we become lights
Alter of Incense – prayer - Ps 141:2, Rev 8:4 we pray through Jesus, it's how we come to God, how He hears and answers
the veil – separated you from the presence of God only the High Priests go behind the veil, and only once a year Mark 15:37-38 the curtain of temple was torn from top to bottom Heb 10:19-20
coverings – (not as clear symbolization but possible; and not as clear in some translations) 1st layer – linen, white but dyed purple, blue, and red (royalty, heaven?, blood Ps 22) 2nd layer – goat skin, may have symbolized sin (sin comes before us and God) 3rd layer – ram skin dyed red, sacrificial animal (blood covering sin) 4th layer – possibly seal skin, used for sandals, tough, used for work (Jesus came to serve)
from the outside it looks very plain, but the inside is the glory of God Is 53:2 and the layers seem to tell a story (God's servant, Jesus, the sacrifice who covers our sin and makes a way to God)
Bronze altar – outside the tent public offering Jesus's crucifixion was public the coal which would have blood from the sacrifice would then be used to bring the incense before God
Bronze laver – for washing Eph 5:26
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