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Post by whatif on Sept 5, 2017 10:05:08 GMT -6
The really awesome thing about science and miracles is that God, who is so marvelous and all-knowing, created this world by means of science so far beyond our current ability to understand that to us it is a miracle! And I think that all the miracles He performed in Bible accounts--as well as miracles He still performs today--are truly scientific in nature in this way: He knows how to control every part of His creation and how to use the laws of the universe He set in motion, so He is using science that is beyond our comprehension to bring about His will, to walk on water, to bring the dead back to life, to part the Red Sea, and all that is recorded in His Word. To us, they are miracles because they seem to break all known scientific laws--but He knows the laws beyond what we do and how to use as yet unknown laws to accomplish amazing things!
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Post by mike on Sept 5, 2017 10:55:58 GMT -6
The really awesome thing about science and miracles is that God, who is so marvelous and all-knowing, created this world by means of science so far beyond our current ability to understand that to us it is a miracle! And I think that all the miracles He performed in Bible accounts--as well as miracles He still performs today--are truly scientific in nature in this way: He knows how to control every part of His creation and how to use the laws of the universe He set in motion, so He is using science that is beyond our comprehension to bring about His will, to walk on water, to bring the dead back to life, to part the Red Sea, and all that is recorded in His Word. To us, they are miracles because they seem to break all known scientific laws--but He knows the laws beyond what we do and how to use as yet unknown laws to accomplish amazing things! Agreed to some degree Whatif...my pea size understanding is that God operates in many many dimensions, perhaps 12, likely unlimited. I tried following Yardstick in the Math Class but got lost. We operate in only 4 dimensions, so anything outside that is considered a miracle. So while i would concur with you, some of what we consider a miracle is something we dont understand. But if we can understand it, it not longer becomes a miracle, although still amazing. For example while I believe God will deliver on His promise of a new heaven and new earth one day it may not be that He says "poof" heres the new earth! He has a plan and its possible He does "poof" it here for us, but its also possible its on its way to the solar system today like earth once was  (Again I agree there are many miracle such as creation of man from dust.) PS - post real quick cuz your count shows 1,666 |
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Post by whatif on Sept 5, 2017 14:56:57 GMT -6
The really awesome thing about science and miracles is that God, who is so marvelous and all-knowing, created this world by means of science so far beyond our current ability to understand that to us it is a miracle! And I think that all the miracles He performed in Bible accounts--as well as miracles He still performs today--are truly scientific in nature in this way: He knows how to control every part of His creation and how to use the laws of the universe He set in motion, so He is using science that is beyond our comprehension to bring about His will, to walk on water, to bring the dead back to life, to part the Red Sea, and all that is recorded in His Word. To us, they are miracles because they seem to break all known scientific laws--but He knows the laws beyond what we do and how to use as yet unknown laws to accomplish amazing things! Agreed to some degree Whatif...my pea size understanding is that God operates in many many dimensions, perhaps 12, likely unlimited. I tried following Yardstick in the Math Class but got lost. We operate in only 4 dimensions, so anything outside that is considered a miracle. So while i would concur with you, some of what we consider a miracle is something we dont understand. But if we can understand it, it not longer becomes a miracle, although still amazing. For example while I believe God will deliver on His promise of a new heaven and new earth one day it may not be that He says "poof" heres the new earth! He has a plan and its possible He does "poof" it here for us, but its also possible its on its way to the solar system today like earth once was (Again I agree there are many miracle such as creation of man from dust.) PS - post real quick cuz your count shows 1,666 Yikes! 1666! I hadn't even noticed, so I'm glad my count has gotten away from that suspicious number... And you are absolutely right about the many dimensions! It's a difficult thing to even try to comprehend--quite mind-boggling. I'm glad the Lord knows it all and holds everything together, because if it was left to me to try to figure out, I'm not ashamed to admit things would have spiraled out of control long, long ago! |
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Post by yardstick on Sept 14, 2017 20:08:58 GMT -6
The really awesome thing about science and miracles is that God, who is so marvelous and all-knowing, created this world by means of science so far beyond our current ability to understand that to us it is a miracle! And I think that all the miracles He performed in Bible accounts--as well as miracles He still performs today--are truly scientific in nature in this way: He knows how to control every part of His creation and how to use the laws of the universe He set in motion, so He is using science that is beyond our comprehension to bring about His will, to walk on water, to bring the dead back to life, to part the Red Sea, and all that is recorded in His Word. To us, they are miracles because they seem to break all known scientific laws--but He knows the laws beyond what we do and how to use as yet unknown laws to accomplish amazing things! Agreed to some degree Whatif...my pea size understanding is that God operates in many many dimensions, perhaps 12, likely unlimited. I tried following Yardstick in the Math Class but got lost. We operate in only 4 dimensions, so anything outside that is considered a miracle. So while i would concur with you, some of what we consider a miracle is something we dont understand. But if we can understand it, it not longer becomes a miracle, although still amazing. For example while I believe God will deliver on His promise of a new heaven and new earth one day it may not be that He says "poof" heres the new earth! He has a plan and its possible He does "poof" it here for us, but its also possible its on its way to the solar system today like earth once was (Again I agree there are many miracle such as creation of man from dust.) PS - post real quick cuz your count shows 1,666 Technically, only 3. Time is a property of gravity. We just use it as a parametric representation of a 4th dimension, so we can do that level of math. And I agree that anything coming into our three dimensions from greater than three would most definitely appear to be a miracle... to us. And thank you for the hat tip reference to the math class. I am going to try to wrap it up before we are 'outta here'. |
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Post by mike on Sept 14, 2017 20:10:52 GMT -6
I don't mean to sound judgemental of this guy, but having watched many of his videos I am not of the impression he is a Christian. Watching this video tells me even those who may not be are seeing what we see. Tune in around 9 minutes. He says don't worry about the dates, look at what happening. This is good info for the signs on the Earth thread too. brad you may find this interesting watchmanjim there's even 3333 in here around 10 mins when he shows the great sign (spoiler alert) |
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Post by mike on Sept 27, 2017 19:42:35 GMT -6
Ok maybe this guy is turning? Although he is a Nibiru proponent he actually defends the Sept 23 sign!
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Post by mike on Oct 14, 2017 5:53:13 GMT -6
Wanted to revive this with some new info.
Copied wrong link, not sure how to remove but this is good, regarding the aliens invasion
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Post by mike on Oct 14, 2017 5:57:51 GMT -6
Here's what I really wanted to post. Not much going on in the video but "major announcement Monday". Could it planet X?
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Post by sawdy on Oct 14, 2017 8:18:33 GMT -6
Here's what I really wanted to post. Not much going on in the video but "major announcement Monday". Could it planet X? Something needs to appear on the scene to help to "explain away" the rapture. As much as I wanted the rapture yesterday (My spirit felt like it was ready to come right out of my body when I was praying), there was nothing to explain away where we all would have gone. For this reason, God will send them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie, -2 Thessalonians 2:11 I don't know for certain that the strong delusion will be directly connected to the rapture, but it will factor into the time period of tribulation. A strong delusion needs to have no doubt that there is any other way of looking at the situation, so to me, that means it needs to start small and work its way into being powerful, compounding deception upon deception so that those under it cannot see the truth. |
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Post by sawdy on Oct 14, 2017 8:25:16 GMT -6
What interests me about this announcement is that it is "hush-hush" until Monday. No here is a press statement, run with it, but a "you can't share your press package preinformation" before the big announcement. It seems to me like this is a pretty big deal. It just doesn't feel like it is just another comet or something observed on the edges of the galaxy. So questions is what do you think the possibilities of the announcement are? 1. Planet x 2. or what else? Feel free to comment on any of my "announcement" possibilities with your input mike and others. |
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Post by gkp on Oct 14, 2017 9:38:19 GMT -6
Hi mike and sawdy, Thank you for watching these developments. I have not been able to view the videos but am very interested in this. Especially appreciate the 2 Thess reference. I shared an idea yesterday on a thread called Crossing the Thin Blue Line and it sort of parallels your conversation. Might it be that in addition to covering up the rapture it might precipitate it?
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Post by mike on Oct 14, 2017 9:53:45 GMT -6
sawdy what really got my wheels spinning was this article on my google news feed. I've read a very similar article about 5-7 times over the last year. You know the old "we found another planet" How odd that they continue to promote the "David Meade end of the world" story then show this a day or two later. Now couple this article "hey world we found another planet, it's really far away and won't cause any harm but wow it's cool" with a secret announcement Monday and the Face Like the Sun post about aliens and things could be adding up futurism.com/nasa-press-release-says-our-solar-system-has-a-9th-planet/
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Post by sawdy on Oct 14, 2017 10:58:41 GMT -6
sawdy what really got my wheels spinning was this article on my google news feed. I've read a very similar article about 5-7 times over the last year. You know the old "we found another planet" How odd that they continue to promote the "David Meade end of the world" story then show this a day or two later. Now couple this article "hey world we found another planet, it's really far away and won't cause any harm but wow it's cool" with a secret announcement Monday and the Face Like the Sun post about aliens and things could be adding up futurism.com/nasa-press-release-says-our-solar-system-has-a-9th-planet/ Two things come to mind: 1. Calling it planet 9. Yes, technically Pluto isn't a planet, but planet X and planet 9 are the same thing. Right? I get confused with all the planet x/nibru as a planet or another star with planets that is part of the solar system. Lots of crazy information out there to make the normal look like cooks until Nasa actually "admits" the normal aren't cooks. But they won't actually admit that. 2. The movie Plan 9 from Outer Space. The planet reminded me of a "planet nine from outer space" which is a play on the movie title. I have never seen it, but the name came to mind. I guess the premise of the movie is that the resurrected dead try to get the humans to stop making a solar weapon of mass destruction. Whereas for us, Planet 9 comes and the ressurected dead are caught up in a rapture with the other believers. 3. It could be our tugboat (or it is the cargo)! As per www.creationism.org/patten/PattenRecOrgSolSys/PattenRootssCh00aTitle.html. Planet 9 could be either the tugboat or the cargo that is being brought into the central solar system. I am looking forward to the Monday announcement. Lots of excitement building and it gives me something to think about as I spend the day cleaning and decluttering my main floor of my house. |
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Post by mike on Oct 14, 2017 11:57:19 GMT -6
sawdy yeah planet 9 or X are apparently the same thing. Nemesis (I think) is the brown dwarf with seven planets around it. Nibiru is the one that is alleged to intersect worth our solar system. At least that's one theory I've heard. I love the "Little Brother/UPS" delivery concept from creationism. Actually I'd say it's more than a theory and may actually be accurate as it completely makes sense. Monday's announcement is likely a gravitational wave they've discovered..but I have no idea what then even means
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Post by spacethinker on Oct 14, 2017 13:27:20 GMT -6
Mike's post (video) mentioned the Tom Delonge announcement of his disclosure-type project, I found this extremely interesting. The full 40-minute presentation is here:
As usual, some folks are saying "psyop/deep state/distraction/fundraising scam" etc... but it does make sense. If there were to finally be some disclosure, to release it slowly and mixed with "storytelling" makes sense. They're not gonna come out and say "here's the warp drive we've been withholding from the public for 70 years." They will slowly "re-discover" the tech, like how law enforcement uses parallel construction to launder evidence that was collected illegally.
During the commercial at the end, it did start to sound a little new-agey "universal humanity" and such. So...
1. It could be a legit disclosure of the tech so that humanity can finally benefit
2. It could be a legit disclosure for the purpose of acclimating humanity to our soon-to-be "benevolent" overlords
3. It could be misdirection for some unknown purpose.
I personally think the ET's are demons, or demon-infested synthetic life forms or some such. But the tech may be real. So if we get some energy/space tech out if it, that will be cool, until stuff goes to crap.
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