1John 5:6 This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth. 7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
Post by stormyknight on Oct 10, 2019 8:07:24 GMT -6
Gary , perhaps you should lock this thread so that it doesn't get out of hand and become a source of contention among brethren. I am in complete agreement with you and everyone of the same mind that the Godhead is three-in-one and right now, I believe the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit have their abode in the highest heaven. I believe that God made the angels/messengers to serve Him, but He made man to potentially and eventually be with Him and that by the power of the Holy Spirit, to bond with our human spirit and make us one with Him. In that sense, when we are changed, though we are one with God/Elohim, God/Elohim becomes many/millions/billions?
I wish the label had not been applied.
"This is my commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you." John 15:12
Post by bondservant on Oct 10, 2019 8:48:48 GMT -6
I apologize if my comments brought contention or anyone to stumble or the concept of the Trinity. I believe that the reason it is such a complex subject is that it is impossible to comprehend the concept because it goes beyond a concept. We are trying to comprehend something infinite with a finite brain. There is no analogy that will suffice our comprehension. It must cross over into the level of faith and revelation.
Hebrews 11:6 And without faith it is impossible to please Him, for whoever would draw near to God must believe that He exists and that He rewards those who seek Him.
I love analogies because that is just how my mind works... but I have learned that there are a lot of people who do not think or comprehend on that level. This is the job of the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is the only one that can reveal these types of truth on a level that we see in the spirit since this is a spiritual principle. Spiritual principles are not something we can completely understand with our mind. It can only be completely understood in the spirit. We can only pray that God would allow the Holy Spirit to comfort & help us in the name of Jesus.
John 13:35 By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.
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EnochWalked: www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-53770859 'Israel will also "suspend declaring sovereignty over areas outlined" in President Trump's Vision for Peace between Israel and the Palestinians'.
Aug 13, 2020 13:34:07 GMT -6
EnochWalked: 'The UAE, he said, sees this as "a stoppage of the annexation, not a suspension".' Does that mean Israel are giving up not just on the areas reserved for the Palestinians, but also the areas that Trump offered Israel? Is this the real covenant with many?
Aug 13, 2020 13:38:00 GMT -6
EnochWalked: Let's see if "Emmanuel"'s 10 nation army will start attacking the forces of the would-be Sultan of the new Ottoman Empire, whose eyes are on Jerusalem. At the rate things are intensifying, this year could really go out with a bang.
Aug 13, 2020 13:50:58 GMT -6
EnochWalked: when asked how long Israel had agreed to suspend its West Bank annexation plans as part of a normalization deal with the United Arab Emirates." Presumably the ink won't try until after November, or January then.
Aug 13, 2020 16:24:39 GMT -6
EnochWalked: "and in the midst of the week he causeth sacrifice and present to cease" (Young's Literal Translation). Does "sacrifice and present" sound like the give and take of a trade or deal? Could 2020 be the middle of a set of 7 years, starting in 2017?
Aug 13, 2020 16:53:34 GMT -6
EnochWalked: "and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate." (KJV) Could the desolation be lockdown and is "that determined" a vaccine "poured upon the desolate"?
Aug 13, 2020 16:55:54 GMT -6
JamesVa: Interesting that they call it the Abraham Accord. There is only one Accord with Abraham that god recognized, and the land belongs to Israel. Makes you wonder about the choice of name...
Aug 13, 2020 18:33:51 GMT -6
Boymaker2: EW, Brenda Weltner also thinks sweets in the Trib from Detroit 2017.
Aug 13, 2020 19:11:06 GMT -6
Boymaker2: Wow. Fat fingers type word salad.
Aug 13, 2020 19:11:57 GMT -6
Boymaker2: Brenda has the end already on schedule from the Rev 12 sign
Aug 13, 2020 19:12:41 GMT -6
disciple4life: Boymaker, Brenda Weltner already missed several things and she tripled down on her timeline and predictions, which some have already not panned out. She missed the Tu B Av, and another key event that had to happen in July. Her entire theory uses one source
Aug 13, 2020 20:14:09 GMT -6
disciple4life: that incorrectly put Rev 12 sign on Feast of trumpets, in 2017, but a dozen Jewish and Non-Jewish sources all agree that it wasn't.
Aug 13, 2020 20:15:35 GMT -6
boymaker: I don't understand how the Trib could have started without the agreement being confirmed.
Aug 14, 2020 0:18:53 GMT -6