1John 5:6 This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth. 7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
Post by stormyknight on Oct 10, 2019 8:07:24 GMT -6
Gary , perhaps you should lock this thread so that it doesn't get out of hand and become a source of contention among brethren. I am in complete agreement with you and everyone of the same mind that the Godhead is three-in-one and right now, I believe the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit have their abode in the highest heaven. I believe that God made the angels/messengers to serve Him, but He made man to potentially and eventually be with Him and that by the power of the Holy Spirit, to bond with our human spirit and make us one with Him. In that sense, when we are changed, though we are one with God/Elohim, God/Elohim becomes many/millions/billions?
I wish the label had not been applied.
"Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life." John 5:24
Post by bondservant on Oct 10, 2019 8:48:48 GMT -6
I apologize if my comments brought contention or anyone to stumble or the concept of the Trinity. I believe that the reason it is such a complex subject is that it is impossible to comprehend the concept because it goes beyond a concept. We are trying to comprehend something infinite with a finite brain. There is no analogy that will suffice our comprehension. It must cross over into the level of faith and revelation.
Hebrews 11:6 And without faith it is impossible to please Him, for whoever would draw near to God must believe that He exists and that He rewards those who seek Him.
I love analogies because that is just how my mind works... but I have learned that there are a lot of people who do not think or comprehend on that level. This is the job of the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is the only one that can reveal these types of truth on a level that we see in the spirit since this is a spiritual principle. Spiritual principles are not something we can completely understand with our mind. It can only be completely understood in the spirit. We can only pray that God would allow the Holy Spirit to comfort & help us in the name of Jesus.
EnochWalked: Oops, I forgot what happens when I put an "s" inside square brackets. Anyway, add this to the list of: genocide in Xinjiang, breaking the Joint Declaration on Hong Kong, spying on the world with 5G/TikTok/Zoom, and creating Covid in their labs.
Jun 20, 2021 8:29:39 GMT -6
yardstick: @ew, re: covid app - it's part of google play store, as a change to that app's software, which means that if you want it off your phone, you also have to remove any way to use google play store. but wait! there's more!
Jun 20, 2021 11:28:04 GMT -6
yardstick: re: covid app, cont. The app is opt-in, so even though they snuck it onto your phone, it is not turned on unless you want it on; and you have to install a state provided app for it to work.
Jun 20, 2021 11:29:18 GMT -6
yardstick: re covid app, cont. 2: my concerns are: how long will it take for an app to get updated to not notify you that it is opt-out, and because it is a core-app like google play store, you are not allowed to remove it because your phone wont work if you do...
Jun 20, 2021 11:32:40 GMT -6
yardstick: re: covid app cont. 3: (like google play store). You did notice they didnt add a new app, right? they changed an app that is core to the phone by adding a feature to it.
Jun 20, 2021 11:33:46 GMT -6
yardstick: re: covid app cont. 4: the article tells you how to turn off the app, and if you search for it in your phone there is information about it and how it is used. I like the part where they basically say that even though they and other users cant track you...
Jun 20, 2021 11:36:32 GMT -6
yardstick: re covid app cont. 5: the govt can; by implication: (paraphrase) even though google, apple and other users cant track your location, as soon as you turn on bluetooth and it pings other users who are being tracked via their GPS...
Jun 20, 2021 11:39:39 GMT -6
yardstick: re: covid app cont. 6: Your location can be generalized by the range of the bluetooth devices that others are using, whose GPS is turned on on their phone...
Jun 20, 2021 11:40:24 GMT -6
yardstick: re: covid app cont. 7: so yes, by implication and with plausible deniability you can be tracked, even though "only public health authorit[y apps] can use this system"
Jun 20, 2021 11:42:07 GMT -6
yardstick: re: covid app cont. 8: and generally, since it is the authorities most people do not want tracking them, therein lies the problem.
Jun 20, 2021 11:52:03 GMT -6
EnochWalked: Excellent analysis and explanation, thank you yardstick!
Jun 20, 2021 13:18:09 GMT -6
EnochWalked: groups.io/g/mpml/topic/83645454 "This new object, 2014 UN271, is not just unusual, but radically exceptional among all known bodies in the Solar System". "its orbit takes it [as close as] just beyond the orbit of Saturn" (11x the Earth-Sun distance)
Jun 20, 2021 13:20:54 GMT -6
EnochWalked: "given how exceptionally red it looked in 2014 precovery images ... [it's] almost undoubtedly the largest Oort Cloud object ever discovered- almost in dwarf planet territory!" "could possibly reach magnitude 13 in early 2031"
Jun 20, 2021 13:22:38 GMT -6