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Post by Gary on Oct 23, 2018 8:11:20 GMT -6
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Post by bernie on Oct 23, 2018 19:42:14 GMT -6
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Post by Jaq on Nov 4, 2018 23:57:14 GMT -6
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Post by sog on Apr 23, 2019 18:56:07 GMT -6
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Post by yardstick on Apr 23, 2019 19:12:23 GMT -6
The current 'high watch' time that many are pointing out does not end until at least June 9!
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Post by sog on Apr 23, 2019 19:29:29 GMT -6
jamie, Actually it was written 9 hrs ago. Kushner was speaking at the TIME 100 summit in New York today, April 23rd. 1 Thessalonians 5:3 English Standard Version (ESV) 3 While people are saying, “There is peace and security,” then sudden destruction will come upon them as labor pains come upon a pregnant woman, and they will not escape.
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Post by mike on Apr 23, 2019 20:40:56 GMT -6
Just like the rebuilding of the temple, this peace plan has been played up for years. The article was written 6 months ago. I will forever be amazed at all of the hype Christians place on this supposed peace plan. IF there was a peace plan coming there would be solid evidence for it elsewhere like in the Revelation or the gospels or any of the Epistles. There is none. All of this is based on what many of us believe is a dreamed up interpretation of Daniel 9:26-27.I am interpreting what I bolded as you indicating that your understanding of this section is the only and correct viewpoint while others all believing a lie. While it is possible you are correct, you are not very gracious in your means of communication. 1 Cor 13:1 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. 2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing. 3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.
1 Pet 4:8 And above all things have fervent charity among yourselves: for charity shall cover the multitude of sins. If I am ignorant to what is true, why condescend, rather bring me to the correct understanding. However one should also consider there understanding may also be incomplete or blurred.
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Post by galen on Apr 24, 2019 21:29:56 GMT -6
Why would Christians today believe the 70th Week of Daniel is something that will be fulfilled in the Endtime? I’ll tell you why: It was a doctrine planted into the Church by a Jesuit named Francisco Ribera to get the Protestants’ eyes off the Pope as being the Antichrist! Jeremiah 31:31, “Behold, the days are coming, says the LORD, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah.” Luke 22:20 And likewise the cup after they had eaten, saying, “This cup that is poured out for you is the new covenant in my blood. Hebrews 7:22 This makes Jesus the guarantor of a better covenant. Mathew 26:28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins. And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect. The 70th week must be fulfilled in the end time (more precisely the last seven years before Christ's return) from Daniel 9:24 where it spells out the purpose of the seventy weeks "to finish transgression, to put an end to wickedness, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy and to anoint the most holy." This is a summation of what must be accomplished before Christ returns, in particular sealing up vision and prophecy, because vision and prophecy are 100% fulfilled (or sealed up) at Christ's return. 69 weeks have come and gone, then there was a pause (the Church Age, the pause related to the Israel program), when the rapture happens the 70 weeks can be resumed. Also the Pope is not the anti-Christ though the Catholic Church is the whore of Babylon and I strongly believe Francis is THE False Prophet who will usher in AC (I don't speculate the identity of the latter).
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Post by sog on Jun 12, 2019 7:04:48 GMT -6
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Post by sog on Jun 12, 2019 12:25:00 GMT -6
I went back and re-read and re-listened to the 2nd video. Some tidbits from those: "The Jerusalem Covenant, which includes signatories from over 100 countries, declares that “Jerusalem belongs to the Jews through Biblical, historical and legal rights.” (The 2nd video states that there were over 23,000 signatures from all over the world) [Edit] The video said 23,000, but this link below says- "Rabbi Tuly Weisz of Israel365 presented Jerusalem Mayor Moshe Lion with a copy of The Jerusalem Covenant and 216,168 signatures in support of the eternal and undivided capital of the Jewish people." www.breakingisraelnews.com/130916/jerusalem-mayor-presented-with-covenant/ Rabbi Tuly Weisz with Mayor Moshe Lion (Photo by Breaking Israel news) Mayor LionThis was presented originally in 1992: Here is part of it from then - We have gathered together in Zion, national leaders and heads of our communities everywhere, to enter into a covenant with Jerusalem... Jerusalem - peace and tranquility shall reign in the city: 'Pray for the peace of Jerusalem; may those who love you be tranquil. May there be peace within your walls, and tranquility within your palaces.' Out of Jerusalem, a message of peace went forth and shall yet go forth again to all the inhabitants of the earth: 'And they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning-hooks; nation will not lift up sword against nation, nor shall they learn war anymore.' Our sages, peace be upon them, said. In the future, The Holy One, the Blessed, will comfort Jerusalem only with peace. ... So it seems a covenant was made (1992) and now a covenant was confirmed by many (6/3/2019)(reported by staff writer @ 2:31 PM). A covenant of peace. Peace mentioned 6 times. You date and number counters can get out your calculators to see if there is any significance in them. Only things I notice right away are these: 6/3/2019 Numbers 6 and 3 and 12 (2+1+9) Man/Holy Trinity/Israel (12 tribes) 2:31 PM Genesis 2:31 God saw all that he had made, and it was very good. And there was evening, and there was morning—the sixth day. 7th day rest coming?
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Post by sog on Jun 13, 2019 14:26:43 GMT -6
I've done a bit more digging on this Jerusalem Covenant. This is what I've found so far. May need to put the breaks on. www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/213348This was written on 6/6/2019 Originally the Jerusalem Covenant was written in 1992 by Deputy Chief Justice Rabbi Menachem Elon, commemorating the 25th anniversary of the capital's liberation. It was intended as a renewal of the Biblical covenant between God and the people of Israel. Israel365 sought to reaffirm the Jerusalem Covenant in 2013, and in the first year it got 10,000 signatures. That number grew to 23,000 in 2014 and over 50,000 signatures in 2015. This year the figure topped 93,000, with signatories from over 100 countries, from Albania to Zimbabwe. Every year Israel365 has presented a printed collection of the signatures bound in a book to a different MK - last year it was Knesset Speaker Yuli Edelstein, and this year Glick was chosen for his activism in reconnecting Jews to Jerusalem and the Temple Mount, the holiest site in Judaism. www.breakingisraelnews.com/88715/152000-jews-christians-sign-covenant-affirming-jerusalem-eternal-capital/This was written May 26th, 2017 On Thursday, the Jerusalem Covenant, a document affirming the eternal unity of Jerusalem as the chosen heart of Israel and the Jewish people, was presented to Deputy Minister Michael Oren at a multifaith gathering celebrating Jerusalem’s Jubilee. The document was signed by over 152,000 Israel supporters from around the world. Oren received the Jerusalem Covenant from Israel365 in front of a crowd of 300 Christians and Jews who came together to honor the 50th anniversary of the city’s miraculous reunification after the Six-Day War in 1967. The gala event, held in Jerusalem overlooking the walls of the Old City, was co-sponsored by Israel365 and leading Christian Zionist organizations HaYovel and Bridges for Peace. Soooo, this Covenant has been gathering signatures since 2013. And will probably continue each year. Is this THE Covenant with many? Very well could be. But, questions are... Has it really been confirmed? 2013 when it first started gathering signatures, or a later year? Does there have to be a certain number of signatures, or just the important one? When will it be confirmed by the False Messiah? Is his name there already or future?
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Post by sog on Jun 13, 2019 14:36:12 GMT -6
Also found this commentary on the Jerusalem Covenant. Seems to fit the bill as a false peace covenant with a One World Order / One religion UN agenda. This is the Covenant Doc: jerusalemofpeace.com/PAGE3.aspThis is commentary on it: www.apocalypsesoon.org/xfile-25.htmlWhy might the False Messiah be willing to sign the Jerusalem Covenant? Because it is worded is such a way to promote the internationalization of Jerusalem and make it a city for "all faiths". Let me highlight a part of the Jerusalem covenant for you. "Today, as old, we hold fast to the truth of the words of the Prophets of Israel, that all the inhabitants of the world shall enter within the gates of Jerusalem; "And it shall come to pass at the end of days, the mountain of the House of the Lord will be well established at the peak of the mountains and will tower above the hills, and all the nations shall stream towards it. ***** "Each and every nation will live in it by its own faith:" *******Isaiah 2:2-4 does NOT say this. Isaiah 2:2 is quoted in the Jerusalem Covenant: "And it shall come to pass at the end of days, the mountain of the House of the Lord will be well established at the peak of the mountains and will tower above the hills, and all the nations shall stream towards it" but this next verse in Isaiah 2:3 does NOT say (*** Each and every nation will live will live in it by its own faith***) but is says that the TORAH will go forth from Jerusalem. The Jerusalem covenant continues: "For all the nations will go forward, each with its own Divine Name; we shall go in the name of the Lord our God forever and ever, " Isaiah 2:3 does NOT say that "all the nations will go forward, each with its own Divine Name" but the TORAH will go forth from Jerusalem. In Zechariah 14:16-17, ALL NATIONS will be REQUIRED to keep the Feast of Tabernacles not "each in its own Divine name" The Jerusalem covenant is written with phrases to be tolerant of all religions. During the days of Isaiah 2:2-4, it is the TORAH which will go forth from Jerusalem (Isaiah 2:3) and the Messiah will rule them "with a rod of iron" (Revelation 19:15) and HE will JUDGE among the nations (according to the Torah) (Isaiah 2:4). In Deuteronomy 4:2 it is written: "You shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall you diminish from it, that you may keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you" They have "added" the "universality of Jerusalem being a religion of all faiths" to the Jerusalem covenant.With the covenant of Jerusalem having this "universality" phrase to it, it fits the agenda of the United Nations plan and goal for Jerusalem in conjunction with the New World Order to have it be an international city of "all faiths". This phrase in the Jerusalem covenant discussed above is consistent with the goal of the Israel/PLO peace process. The Israel/PLO peace is based upon U.N Resolutions 242 and 338. Implied in U.N. Resolution 242 is for Jerusalem to be divided according to the original U.N. plan for the state of Israel in 1947 and become an international city. So, the false Messiah may be willing to sign the Jerusalem covenant. So is this THE covenant? If so, are we just waiting for confirmation? Or has that already happened? Thoughts?
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Post by david on Jun 13, 2019 15:27:12 GMT -6
Do you see any kind of reference to seven years? This is something that seems to be missing from all the proposed covenants, unless I missed something.
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Post by sog on Jun 13, 2019 17:23:42 GMT -6
Daniel 9:27 "And he will make a firm covenant with the many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put a stop to sacrifice and grain offering; and on the wing of abominations will come one who makes desolate, even until a complete destruction, one that is decreed, is poured out on the one who makes desolate."
I think it’s the “he” that confirms the covenant for the ‘seven’ or week, not that the covenant itself says anything about the ‘seven’ or one week.
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Post by mike on Jun 13, 2019 18:59:32 GMT -6
A lot of good information in this. I really like that he says we need to remain open to different ideas about end times since some may not fit out current thinking/understanding (not quoting verbatim)
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