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Post by mike on Oct 19, 2018 8:28:13 GMT -6
An unpopular topic but one that can into the timelines where we diligently seek to watch for the return of the King!
I came across this video which touches on the prophecies of Daniel, Matthew and Ezekiel among others creating a timeline from 536 BC to 1948. There is some interpretation as to years and days and so on but this is worth consideration as none of us fully understand future prophecy and many past prophecies cannot be certified 100% with history.
In any case we keep watching, and contemplating His soon return
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Post by kjs on Oct 19, 2018 13:53:52 GMT -6
After visiting the website here
I am thinking it be best to take this speaker / website owner -- with a huge grain of Salt.........
For example is contention is that the "holocaust" was "the tribulation" --- claiming that the 2/3 deaths -- represents the fulfilled prophecy of 2/3 people dying....
This website tries to explain it here
BUT NO the 2/3 deaths -- is NOT "the tribulation" --- and it was only 2/3 within Germany -- not the whole world.........
People (like this website owner) may have their own interpretation .... but that does not make them have a correct interpretation .......
and after review .... my opinion is it is wrong........
BUT HEY -- I am not expert ............
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Post by mike on Oct 19, 2018 14:14:21 GMT -6
KJ - that is the type of response I expected and kinda wanted. I didn't believe he was correct saying this was the tribulation, but it certainly was a tribulation for the Jews in Europe, around Germany.
I like to be fully informed and consider all aspects into equations especially like this. This is not talked about and think it does have some end time application, just not sure where.
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Post by davewatchman on Oct 19, 2018 18:18:49 GMT -6
An unpopular topic but one that can into the timelines where we diligently seek to watch for the return of the King! I came across this video which touches on the prophecies of Daniel, Matthew and Ezekiel among others creating a timeline from 536 BC to 1948. There is some interpretation as to years and days and so on but this is worth consideration as none of us fully understand future prophecy and many past prophecies cannot be certified 100% with history. In any case we keep watching, and contemplating His soon return I did watch the video. And another one from his site. He said TWO angels saved him from out of the sea. I wonder if he means the literal sea, or the many waters where the woman sits. Many peoples and nations and tongues. The troubled sea of humanity. The guy is either really really right or really really wrong. I don't know. For the past couple of weeks i've been looking at something similar to this. Because i wonder if we're really much deeper into the end time narrative than we think we are. And i think that we might be. And so i've looked at some things that are similar to the Holocaust numbers that might have an application to the fifth seal. There's a very good PDF note i see about the numbers from the Foxe book days that the Catholic church were responsible for. And they talk about 50 million, 75 million and even 100 or more million people killed. These are what i think are being called the souls beneath the alter in Revelation 6: "When he opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the witness they had borne. They cried out with a loud voice, “O Sovereign Lord, holy and true, how long before you will judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth?” Then they were each given a white robe and told to rest a little longer, until the number of their fellow servants and their brothers should be complete, who were to be killed as they themselves had been.Until the NUMBER of their fellow servants should be complete. I think there's a specific number that is expected to be reached. And i'm afraid that it might be more than 6 million. But, "Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations.""Though they were not yet born and had done nothing either good or bad—in order that God’s purpose of election might continue, not because of works but because of him who calls— she was told, “The older will serve the younger.” As it is written, “Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.”God knows His elect before they are born. There's been around 60 million abortions in the USA alone. I'm not counting around the world. I don't know how many of them God "knew" in the womb. When it said Adam "knew" his wife, it means Adam loved his wife, right. "Also it was allowed to make war on the saints and to conquer them.And when i read the pages on the various late term methods of abortion, i actually find the word decapitation being used in some cases. God said thou shalt not kill. But the composite beast has opened it's mouth and says that it's all legal. As long as they do the killing when the helpless child is still in the birth canal. If they get away with this in the USA, i can't imagine what goes on around the world. I still think fire is going to fall from heaven. And then the image of the beast will cause as many as will not worship it to be killed. But i think that the "number" of those is closer to being complete than we could know right now. Peaceful Sabbath.
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Post by boraddict on Oct 19, 2018 19:39:42 GMT -6
Dave said: "I did watch the video. And another one from his site. He said TWO angels saved him from out of the sea. I wonder if he means the literal sea, or the many waters where the woman sits. Many peoples and nations and tongues. The troubled sea of humanity. The guy is either really really right or really really wrong. I don't know."
Dave, I like how you referenced the sea as "the troubled sea of humanity," that is so true. I watched the video as well and liked it very much.
I wrote down some of the information that he referenced and cross checked that with other histories. It appears that he may be historically correct; however, he did not account for the 13th month in the Jewish year that was often necessary to set the barley harvest in the first month of the following year. This would invalidate his calculation in which he used a simple 360-day year, since every so often the year was a 390-day year. That error could move his calculated date by as much as 35 years.
I liked his overall approach and plan to watch this video again. Thank you Mike.
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Post by davewatchman on Oct 19, 2018 20:35:48 GMT -6
Dave said: "I did watch the video. And another one from his site. He said TWO angels saved him from out of the sea. I wonder if he means the literal sea, or the many waters where the woman sits. Many peoples and nations and tongues. The troubled sea of humanity. The guy is either really really right or really really wrong. I don't know." Dave, I like how you referenced the sea as "the troubled sea of humanity," that is so true. I watched the video as well and liked it very much. I wrote down some of the information that he referenced and cross checked that with other histories. It appears that he may be historically correct; however, he did not account for the 13th month in the Jewish year that was often necessary to set the barley harvest in the first month of the following year. This would invalidate his calculation in which he used a simple 360-day year, since every so often the year was a 390-day year. That error could move his calculated date by as much as 35 years. I liked his overall approach and plan to watch this video again. Thank you Mike. I also liked the overall approach. He makes a good video. The quality of the production is good. His voice reminds me of something that used to be on Sunday morning TV. The guy with the southern voice always talking about dispensations. It's like you first don't want to click on it because of the Holocaust, but then it's a well made video. And that hitler part was spooky. Imagine if he could have teamed up with the muslims what would have happened. And i like the title REVELATION NOW. That's what i think it is APOCALYPSE NOW. Like a tribulation of the matrix. A Twilight Zone Tribulation where the things are happening but are not as expected. And if he's made a slip up in his calendration, i'm sure you're just the one to catch him.
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Post by boraddict on Oct 20, 2018 23:30:23 GMT -6
Dave said: "I did watch the video. And another one from his site. He said TWO angels saved him from out of the sea. I wonder if he means the literal sea, or the many waters where the woman sits. Many peoples and nations and tongues. The troubled sea of humanity. The guy is either really really right or really really wrong. I don't know." Dave, I like how you referenced the sea as "the troubled sea of humanity," that is so true. I watched the video as well and liked it very much. I wrote down some of the information that he referenced and cross checked that with other histories. It appears that he may be historically correct; however, he did not account for the 13th month in the Jewish year that was often necessary to set the barley harvest in the first month of the following year. This would invalidate his calculation in which he used a simple 360-day year, since every so often the year was a 390-day year. That error could move his calculated date by as much as 35 years. I liked his overall approach and plan to watch this video again. Thank you Mike. Post Script: I watched the video again and made a note of the dates referenced by the author. For Daniel's sevens he computed 360 X 7 = 2520 OT years or 2480 NT years. The math shows that 2520 / 365.25 (NT days per year) = 6.899383984 of Daniels "7". Thus, his calculation is off by 0.100616016 or 36.75 NT years. So lets do it correctly. 365.25 X 7 = 2556.75 NT years and not 2520 - 36.75 = 2483.25 NT years. In other words, he was off by a total of 76.75 years (36.75 X 2 because he subtracted when he should have added, and an additional 3.25 years because he rounded down from 2483.25 to 2480). So if we use this calculation of NT years, the total number of years 2556.75 minus, 536 BC years (the year he gave in his calculation for the return from the Babylonian exile), this gives us 2020.75 AD years and not the 1948 AD as he has stated in his film. Not only that, but his midpoint is not 706 but 742 AD. So according to his calculations, and using the correct math, the great tribulation was not WWII but is in 2020.
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