So in verse 20, would you say that all of what is mentioned - things polluted by idols, sexual immorality, "what has been strangled", and blood - that these are meant to reflect the law of the Old Testament completely? Or are those things the only things that we ought to "abstain" from?
Those are really good questions. It has been awhile since I really studied things like Leviticus. It explains what sexual immorality is, why to avoid idols, and that the life of a creature is in it's blood. My understanding is that the Law:
1)was to show that we need a Savior and cannot follow the Law on our own. 2)It was also to allow Israel access to God who is perfectly holy. 3)It kept them holy and separated them from the people around them.
God created boundaries for them with what they could eat and wear, He gave them purification laws so they could still come before Him (whereas we have been purified in Christ and no longer need to do things such as bring a sacrifice after childbirth), laws on disease to protect them (which we now have modern medicines help).
I just had a thought...I would also include that we should follow the two greatest commandments of loving God and loving others. The Law helps us to see ways to love our neighbors. For example, Lev 19 speaks of not stealing, dealing fairly with employees, being honest in court, respecting elders. (also the first 4 commandments are on loving God and the last 6 on loving others, taking in to account the heart behind those as Jesus expressed in Matt 5)
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Is 26:3 You keep him in perfect peace whose mind is stayed on You, because he trusts in You.
Do you believe that because we are under grace, instead of looking at the words of God in the Old Testament and the New Testament, we ought to just simply engage in relationship with Him?
Are we not under some sort of Law still? Or would you say it's the "law of grace", so to speak?
The day the law was handed down 3,000 souls were lost, the day the Holy Spirit came 3,000 souls were saved. This tells me the law kills but grace saves. Also when Jesus rose so did 500 others, a picture of things to come, a wave sheaf so to speak. Also the curtain in the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom which was somewhere around 30 feet tall signifying man could not have done that and we no longer had to go through a priest, we have Jesus to go through.
Hey brothers and sisters, I hope everyone is holding up well in late November. ... Maybe I'm off here, but I can't shake the feeling that, though literally God absolutely meant for Moses to address the actual, literal people of Israel at the time, there's a good possibility He is also meaning a simultaneous metaphorical Israel (which actually means strives with God), such as "any who are God's people" per se, the sojourners, so to speak, not native to the actual blood-relation of Abraham, but related in spirit and in truth. 5) What are your thoughts here? Am I totally off? 6) Are we to celebrate the feasts as Christians? Why don't we? They seem a lot more God-glorifying than what most Christians celebrate nowadays - Easter, Halloween, Christmas (certainly well-meaning holidays in some regard, but also definite Pagan origins). Looking forward to hearing what you think!
pillarofsaultgoodman OK you are Saul T. Goodman. Great display title.
Ok I feel the same way but here is how I can deal with this idea in peace. It is obvious that the Church was not to do those things physically or even literally. I think when Paul and Barnabas came back to report to the Christians at Antioch what the committee in Jerusalem said regarding, OK here is what is required to be a Christian in someplace Gentilish...
Acts 15:28 For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things; 29 That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well."
FARE YE WELL?!?!?! Really! No requirements about passover, unleavened bread, first fruits, pentecost, yom kippur, tabernacles?!?!?!? Apparently not. However the Church has not taught the wisdom from these divine appointments and I am sure that a church today which has good teaching will be teaching about the Feasts. How many churches teach about the Feasts? Not many. Ohh but they love to teach the milk of the word. God blesses us! Oh yes those churches will focus on that and get a 10th. Yes, they will focus on that.
When I taught a Sunday School class for 20 years I taught about the feasts constantly. I never went to Jerusalem to present myself at a harvest feast, but that is the point, the Temple is not there. It is currently impossible to "obey the Feasts".
And by the way, when we are all in Heaven and raptured and talking and rejoicing we will have a vote and I predict that this first Church committee meeting will be voted THE BEST CHURCH COMMITTEE MEETING OF ALL TIME. After this, Church Committee meetings all went DOWNHILL! IMHO
Blessings Saints. Soon we rise and shine like the firmament reflecting Jesus. (edited 11/27/2017)
EnochWalked: www.justice.gov/file/1286331/download "in order to enjoy the broad immunity of Section 230, an internet platform must respect public safety by ensuring its ability to identify unlawful content or activity occurring on its services." Encryption ban?
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EnochWalked: secretnyc.co/nyc-climate-clock-union-square/ "We have approximately seven years before the consequences of climate change reaches a deadline, according to the newly programmed countdown clock in Union Square." Some of those words are correct.
Sept 23, 2020 20:05:48 GMT -6
Natalie: some people also use Hosea 4:3 Therefore the land mourns, and all who dwell in it languish, and also the beasts of the field and the birds of the heavens, and even the fish of the sea are taken away.
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EnochWalked: I'm really enjoying Gary's latest post, which is, as usual, a great spiritual blessing. It encouraged me to study the Greek of Mark 13:32, and I found a wording I don't think I've ever seen before: biblehub.com/interlinear/mark/13-32.htm
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EnochWalked: "Concerning now the day that or the hour no one knows not even the angels in heaven nor the Son if not the Father." Doesn't that make more sense? No one would know the day or the hour were it not for the Father revealing it to us, i.e. Revelation 1:1.
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Boymaker2: My son's belief statement, defending grace to his catholic girlfriend, is up. Www.indefenseofgrace.com. it cost him his relationship.
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Gary: Wow Boymaker. I will need to find a way to make this a ready resource for Roman Catholics who frequent Unsealed.
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bernie: Thanks Boymaker, I was raised Catholic, and it looks like a great resource for sharing with Catholics. I've saved a link to it on my desktop to refer to.
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james: bernie: Vigano appears to be one of the few good ones. He's repeatedly stepped on toes and spoken out about the actions of the RCC and the pope. Seems like he knows what's going on behind the scenes like we do!
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nana: My apologies to those who left notifications, I can't remember how to get back to them if they are from different threads. Please don't think I am being rude.
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