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Post by hopeful on Oct 26, 2017 10:07:05 GMT -6
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Post by yardstick on Oct 26, 2017 11:24:55 GMT -6
Hey, I can be robotic at times...
just sayin'
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Post by sorrynotsorry on Oct 26, 2017 11:27:07 GMT -6
There is SO much fear mongering on this website, ESPECIALLY when it comes to scientific advancement. I won’t even get into the other post where y’all are talking about how evil gene altering is (while benefitting from the same science by taking drugs intended to alter gene expression). Anyways Sophia is barely AI, if you did any research at all you’d know her speeches are scripted and preprogrammed (the other person talking to her also follows a script) Shes not much different than a child’s toy, she’s just more expensive.
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Post by yardstick on Oct 26, 2017 11:45:28 GMT -6
The science is just a tool, like a hammer. How one uses the hammer is what distinguishes it from being a tool or a threat (i.e., guns). It's how it's used, how it's intended to be used, and how it could be used is what people find concerning. People are naturally afraid of that which they do not understand. Regardless of whether it is on this site or not. The failure to announce such controls, is what causes the fear. (Trust also is important.) By voicing these fears, they are essentially asking: What controls are you going to put in place to prevent abusive, coercive use of this technology/knowledge? These, imho are legitimate communications, unless and until a sufficiently truthful answer and/or control is put in place (preferably truth + control, imho). It's true that the news article 'hyped' this a little. Technically, the 'android' is a robot. It's important to understand the distinctions between robots, androids and sentient beings. Robots have responses to external stimuli which are limited by pre-programmed algorithms and are unchangeable, Androids are also pre-programmed, but without the limitation on response to external stimuli - they are capable of 'learning' (generally: AI), and Sentient Beings (no limitation on learning, programming or responses to stimuli, capable of learning; as well as self-aware, fear death, et c.) Isaac Asimov's Three Laws would be a good starting point to settle people's minds on any perception of threat, or tampering with the 'natural order' of things. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Laws_of_RoboticsI would suggest that similar requirements be also emplaced for such things as gene-engineering bioforms, as well as other 'high tech' advancements.
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Post by nana on Oct 26, 2017 11:58:35 GMT -6
Hold on, grabbing my tinfoil hat.
I believe what "they" the powers that be (TPTB) really have that they are keeping under lock and key right now would scare the pants off of most people. They are decades advanced than what we know about. Many things they unveil as new technology is most likely at least 25 years old or older.
They have it waiting in the wings for the AC, that is why he will look like he can preform "miracles".
You really don't think those hammers were $400 and ashtray were $600 did you. It went into black ops, hidden ops, black budget.
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Post by hopeful on Oct 26, 2017 12:32:29 GMT -6
The article was from a site I don't typically follow, linked from another site. I didn't mean to imply by posting it that the future is here, and that we're going to be taken over by robots. My thought was that this is the dream of Godless men, to create AIs, to mess around with our DNA. Maybe they won't get that far on their own, maybe they are opening the door for demonic influence. Maybe.
Sorrynotsorry, we could nit pick what on this site comes across as fear mongering. I have a very hard time with those kind of debates. I am here because I want to learn and be among and encourage like minded people as we wait for our blessed hope. I am not fearful, for I am mindful of the many verses that instruct us not to be. Such as John 4:4
You are of God, little children, and have overcome them, because He who is in you is greater than he who is in the world.
Be blessed.
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Post by MikeTaft on Oct 26, 2017 12:49:35 GMT -6
*grabs tinfoil hat*
Even though Sophia is far from an android. At the current rate of technology and knowledge increasing, we are not far off from "I, Robot" and "Terminator".
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Post by sorrynotsorry on Oct 26, 2017 13:07:50 GMT -6
*grabs tinfoil hat* Even though Sophia is far from an android. At the current rate of technology and knowledge increasing, we are not far off from "I, Robot" and "Terminator". “Paranoia is just another word for ignorance” -Hunter Thompson If you think we’re anywhere, ANYWHERE near terminator then you my friend are way out of touch with physics, biology, programming and time travel. Maybe it’s time to replace that tinfoil hat with your graduation cap.
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Post by MikeTaft on Oct 26, 2017 13:12:17 GMT -6
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Post by sorrynotsorry on Oct 26, 2017 13:20:18 GMT -6
I didn’t say anything personal, I said if you think terminator is even mildly possible in the future than you would benefit from buffing up on your scientific studies. Seeing a silly animatronic doll and finding anything fearful there is paranoia. Like...textbook paranoia.
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Post by yardstick on Oct 26, 2017 14:01:30 GMT -6
I am going to lock this for moderator review, as I believe it is going in a negative direction.
Let us please consider the relevance of our posts to the intent of this forum.
Thanks for your patience.
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Post by Gary on Oct 27, 2017 9:21:03 GMT -6
I didn’t say anything personal, I said if you think terminator is even mildly possible in the future than you would benefit from buffing up on your scientific studies. Seeing a silly animatronic doll and finding anything fearful there is paranoia. Like...textbook paranoia. Hi sorrynotsorry, your disagreement is very understandable and you are more than welcome to disagree. The tone though - please consider how you might be coming across to other brothers and sisters in Christ. This is why we have Rule #3, so that discussions remain loving and kind. As far as the topic is concerned, I tend to agree with you that AI has not advanced nearly to the level some fear, but there is genuine scientific debate on this. I work for a company that runs advanced machine learning and I for one can see how AI is rapidly advancing. Factoring in Moore's law and some other factors, I would honestly not be surprised if some level of sentience was achieved within 3-5 years. That is a scary thought and at least to me seems to be the first conceivable explanation for the fulfillment of Revelation 13:15. Stories like this one just drive the point home. Blessings, Gary
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Post by tygreen on Nov 24, 2017 7:31:04 GMT -6
@gary Have you seen this? www.google.com/amp/s/www.wired.com/story/anthony-levandowski-artificial-intelligence-religion/ampFormer google exec Anthony Levandowski, starts a church. “ WOTF’s (Way Of The Future) activities will focus on “the realization, acceptance, and worship of a Godhead based on Artificial Intelligence (AI) developed through computer hardware and software.” A quote from the Wired magazine article. Blend this with a “Sophia”. This appears to have Revelation 13 overtones. Could this be a type of “image” that is made to speak?
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Post by fitz on Feb 12, 2018 20:28:57 GMT -6
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Post by fitz on Mar 2, 2018 7:53:36 GMT -6
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