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Post by MikeTaft on Oct 15, 2017 13:44:26 GMT -6
Mike, I agree. I've always believed that it's the rapture that causes this "sudden destruction" that Paul warned about in 1 Thessalonians 5:3. More than any natural disaster, this event will cause mass chaos and change the entire world in an instant. Literally 1 hour afterward there will be global mass hysteria. I can't see any natural disaster, even one of biblical proportions, causing global upheaval. California suffering "the big one" would be localized to the west coast...no matter how big. Even Yellowstone blowing would probably only devastate the US from the west coast to the Appalachians, and of course the US would be done at that point. However, Europe and the rest of the world could probably pick up the pieces after this. No country will pick up the pieces after the rapture. It will cripple the entire world and actually trigger the financial collapse that you speak of. Very quickly (within just days), food supplies will be gone and people will turn into animals. People will murder for food and water...and as God's judgments start to rain down, the world will beg for a "savior"...and the savior they will turn to won't be Jesus. There may be a lot of truth to what you've written fitz. I've just been wondering if the demise of America as a super power would come before or after the rapture. Either way it's only a short matter of time from my perspective and many others. I'm grateful to God that I was born an American citizen, but I am even more grateful I am a citizen of God's kingdom first!
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Post by MikeTaft on Oct 18, 2017 7:36:12 GMT -6
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Post by MikeTaft on Nov 3, 2017 7:06:18 GMT -6
ANTIFA are looking to start their revolution tomorrow according to their website. Prophecy News Watch gives a good synopsis as to who ANTIFA really is and who's backing them. Hopefully their words are not backed by action as mentioned in the article. However, past actions by ANTIFA and friends have proven otherwise. Stay safe brothers and sisters, especially those who live near the cites mentioned. www.prophecynewswatch.com/article.cfm?recent_news_id=1739
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Post by mike on Nov 3, 2017 7:20:09 GMT -6
I wonder if this is all fear mongering? We've been hearing about this for a few weeks now. Maybe nothing materializes?
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Post by grandpaskitzo on Nov 3, 2017 7:41:23 GMT -6
I wonder if this is all fear mongering? We've been hearing about this for a few weeks now. Maybe nothing materializes? That'd be nice if nothing did happen, but unfortunately with the social landscape the way it is, it's only a matter of time before civil war 2.0 starts. Wether it be now or 5 years, that's the way we're headed unless people turn back to God. I just pray we're outta here before then. Until that point, we have to be alert and ready for anything. God doesn't want us to be caught unaware on anything. So it's good we're all paying attention and preparing for possible negative outcomes with hopes and prayers otherwise. Proverbs 22:3 KJVS [3] A prudent man foreseeth the evil, and hideth himself: but the simple pass on, and are punished. Point is, America is going to fall one day just as every sinful nation before it, are we going to be caught by surprise or stand ready and show people the light of Christ amidst the falling darkness?
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Post by MikeTaft on Nov 3, 2017 7:58:43 GMT -6
I wonder if this is all fear mongering? We've been hearing about this for a few weeks now. Maybe nothing materializes? I'm hoping and praying nothing materializes. People are divided in this country in every state. I don't fear these people, if anything I hope they get some sense into their heads and repent, accept Christ. But I've seen plenty of footage with how these people act, and it's literally the reprobate minds as mentioned in ( Romans 1:27-29). God is very clear about countries who reject Him. Even though there are many, many born-again Christians in this country praying otherwise, I feel God is going to deal with our countries the same as with Lot. Sodom and Gomorrah was still destroyed, and Lot and his family were taken by force (Rapture?) by the angels out of the city. How and when this will happen? I do not know. It seems evident we are heading in that direction though.
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Post by linda on Nov 3, 2017 13:26:46 GMT -6
I wonder if this is all fear mongering? We've been hearing about this for a few weeks now. Maybe nothing materializes? That'd be nice if nothing did happen, but unfortunately with the social landscape the way it is, it's only a matter of time before civil war 2.0 starts. Wether it be now or 5 years, that's the way we're headed unless people turn back to God. I just pray we're outta here before then. Until that point, we have to be alert and ready for anything. God doesn't want us to be caught unaware on anything. So it's good we're all paying attention and preparing for possible negative outcomes with hopes and prayers otherwise. Proverbs 22:3 KJVS [3] A prudent man foreseeth the evil, and hideth himself: but the simple pass on, and are punished. Point is, America is going to fall one day just as every sinful nation before it, are we going to be caught by surprise or stand ready and show people the light of Christ amidst the falling darkness? I think George Soros has too much invested in Antifa for nothing to happen. But they are now being flagged as a terrorist organization in a lot of states and I think Homeland Security also. Whether that means they do anything about them or not, I don't know. It doesn't seem like much is ever done about groups like this. Look at how many cops died last year as a result of BLM. That group is heavily supported by Soros also. I'm a bit worried about this weekend because I live near Portland and my brother lives there. And Portland seems to be a hotbed of Antifa.
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Post by linda on Nov 3, 2017 13:28:40 GMT -6
I wonder if this is all fear mongering? We've been hearing about this for a few weeks now. Maybe nothing materializes? I'm hoping and praying nothing materializes. People are divided in this country in every state. I don't fear these people, if anything I hope they get some sense into their heads and repent, accept Christ. But I've seen plenty of footage with how these people act, and it's literally the reprobate minds as mentioned in ( Romans 1:27-29). God is very clear about countries who reject Him. Even though there are many, many born-again Christians in this country praying otherwise, I feel God is going to deal with our countries the same as with Lot. Sodom and Gomorrah was still destroyed, and Lot and his family were taken by force (Rapture?) by the angels out of the city. How and when this will happen? I do not know. It seems evident we are heading in that direction though. Mike, I think nearly every country in the world is going to suffer great damage when the 6th seal opens. Then the first 2 trumpets with meteors hitting the earth. That's going to be an environmental catastrophe beyond imagining.
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Post by kjs on Nov 3, 2017 13:45:38 GMT -6
Well look at what the "number crunchers" just said about the "NEW" Tax Plan of Trump ..... "the plan could cost $3 to $7 trillion over a decade– our best-case estimate is $5.5 trillion in revenue loss over a decade." Yippee -- Let's add another 5 trillion to the deficit -- after all it is simply "fake numbers" no one pays attention too The fact is (based on the latest proposals) -- the primary beneficiary to the new tax plan -- is Corporations! Yes, these same corporations -- that were just a few years ago -- "Bailed Out" -- because they were too "Big to Fail".... Everyone has given plausible scenarios which would cause the US to leave the World Stage...... BUT I believe the BIGGEST is that ever increasing debt.... The interest alone on that debt is taking the majority of the Government Budget now; What happens when that interest reaches 80%, 90% or even 100%? I do not care which party is in charge (they have all promised to reduce the debt) -- yet every single one of them has increased it!!!!
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Post by nana on Nov 3, 2017 14:06:09 GMT -6
Well look at what the "number crunchers" just said about the "NEW" Tax Plan of Trump ..... "the plan could cost $3 to $7 trillion over a decade– our best-case estimate is $5.5 trillion in revenue loss over a decade." Yippee -- Let's add another 5 trillion to the deficit -- after all it is simply "fake numbers" no one pays attention too The fact is (based on the latest proposals) -- the primary beneficiary to the new tax plan -- is Corporations! Yes, these same corporations -- that were just a few years ago -- "Bailed Out" -- because they were too "Big to Fail".... Everyone has given plausible scenarios which would cause the US to leave the World Stage...... BUT I believe the BIGGEST is that ever increasing debt.... The interest alone on that debt is taking the majority of the Government Budget now; What happens when that interest reaches 80%, 90% or even 100%? I do not care which party is in charge (they have all promised to reduce the debt) -- yet every single one of them has increased it!!!! Actually it could be paid off if the President Ordered the Treasury to print United States Notes and pay off the federal reserve banksters of their Federal Reserve Notes. Untied States Notes are INTEREST FREE too. One is just as fiat as the other however the Constitution grants the power of the Federal Government to print currency. The Constitution NEVER granted anyone in the Federal Government to outsource any currency printing to a private or foreign own corporation such as the Federal Reserve that is both.
The Federal Government could then reinstitute a Constitutional "DOLLAR" which is so many grams or grains of gold or silver.
This all stems from God's money being cast aside, Gold and Silver.
Remember the ONLY time Jesus ever became physically angry was when he chased the moneychangers out of the Temple. Money changers are exactly what the modern day banksters are.
Money is minted, currency is printed.
Gold is the money of Kings Silver is the money of gentlemen Paper/currency is the money of slaves
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Post by MikeTaft on Nov 3, 2017 14:29:42 GMT -6
There is evidently dark forces moving in this world that requires us to be in much prayer, not only for each other, but for our loved ones as well. linda I agree that Soros has a great deal invested. We also now have ISIS and other radical Islamist groups feeding into these anti-American organizations. Satan want's to destroy us, but YHWH is the one in control. Even if we don't see anything go down this weekend I believe we will see more division increasing in this country. It's time we stand firm in our citizenship in God's kingdom, as the nations of this world are falling to the prince of darkness.
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Post by nana on Nov 3, 2017 14:45:34 GMT -6
That'd be nice if nothing did happen, but unfortunately with the social landscape the way it is, it's only a matter of time before civil war 2.0 starts. Wether it be now or 5 years, that's the way we're headed unless people turn back to God. I just pray we're outta here before then. Until that point, we have to be alert and ready for anything. God doesn't want us to be caught unaware on anything. So it's good we're all paying attention and preparing for possible negative outcomes with hopes and prayers otherwise. Proverbs 22:3 KJVS [3] A prudent man foreseeth the evil, and hideth himself: but the simple pass on, and are punished. Point is, America is going to fall one day just as every sinful nation before it, are we going to be caught by surprise or stand ready and show people the light of Christ amidst the falling darkness? I think George Soros has too much invested in Antifa for nothing to happen. But they are now being flagged as a terrorist organization in a lot of states and I think Homeland Security also. Whether that means they do anything about them or not, I don't know. It doesn't seem like much is ever done about groups like this. Look at how many cops died last year as a result of BLM. That group is heavily supported by Soros also. I'm a bit worried about this weekend because I live near Portland and my brother lives there. And Portland seems to be a hotbed of Antifa. I think if those sniveling crybaby
Adolescent Narcissist Traitors Imitating Fascist Anarchist
Show up at anyone's homes they will be met with great resistance from Americans sick and tired of their criminal behavior.
Luke 22:36 Adding, you may want to ask your brother if he would like to stay with you this weekend.
We had the Ferguson riots that launched a lot of this mess, the Delmar Loop riots, West End Riots and a few other places around St. Louis. We stayed away from where they were taking place. But if they come to your home or business you have every right to defend yourself and your property. Not 1 business that was guarded by the owners with open carry was vandalized. We are not part of the world but we have to live in it for now.
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Post by linda on Nov 3, 2017 15:17:57 GMT -6
Well look at what the "number crunchers" just said about the "NEW" Tax Plan of Trump ..... "the plan could cost $3 to $7 trillion over a decade– our best-case estimate is $5.5 trillion in revenue loss over a decade." Yippee -- Let's add another 5 trillion to the deficit -- after all it is simply "fake numbers" no one pays attention too The fact is (based on the latest proposals) -- the primary beneficiary to the new tax plan -- is Corporations! Yes, these same corporations -- that were just a few years ago -- "Bailed Out" -- because they were too "Big to Fail".... Everyone has given plausible scenarios which would cause the US to leave the World Stage...... BUT I believe the BIGGEST is that ever increasing debt.... The interest alone on that debt is taking the majority of the Government Budget now; What happens when that interest reaches 80%, 90% or even 100%? I do not care which party is in charge (they have all promised to reduce the debt) -- yet every single one of them has increased it!!!! kjs, it's supposed to be a tax cut for business and the middle class! We currently have the highest tax rate in the world for businesses, which is why so many have moved overseas. This is all to bring back companies here and bring back jobs. And that's a good reason why unemployment has gone way down this year - companies are counting on that tax cut. Even with this tax cut, though, China still will tax their companies less. There is also the 4+ trillion overseas that companies don't bring back and invest here because of how much of it would go to taxes. This will bring the money back and get it invested in the economy. Yes, the deficit is horrible. Half of it created in the last 8 years. And a big bunch during the Bush administration. Both parties are guilty big time. But not cutting taxes won't help the deficit a bit, since the economy won't do much of anything. Getting the economy booming will create many more jobs, bringing in many more taxes, and cutting a lot of the money going to social programs that help the unemployed (since there won't be many unemployed at that point). That's the only way, short of killing the FED, that the deficit is ever going to come down. Get a booming economy and stop the government from spending so much.
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