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Post by bobthewebguy on Jul 1, 2019 13:50:07 GMT -6
Mike, I don't have a problem with probably 75% of the other translations. I have a problem with ERROR! If there is one error in my 1611 KJV I will through the bible in the trash. So far in 40 years, I still have it. I can show you and have shown you errors in the other versions. They are wrong!. My God is not the author of wrong!. I have made amazing discoveries in my KJV, that I would have never found in other versions. Want to see one?
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Post by mike on Jul 1, 2019 13:57:05 GMT -6
Mike, I don't have a problem with probably 75% of the other translations. I have a problem with ERROR! If there is one error in my 1611 KJV I will through the bible in the trash. So far in 40 years, I still have it. I can show you and have shown you errors in the other versions. They are wrong!. My God is not the author of wrong!. I have made amazing discoveries in my KJV, that I would have never found in other versions. Want to see one? Thanks for the reply Bob. For the record I predominantly read the KJV and can agree on some fronts that it is a solid translation but not perfect. yes please share your discovery from the KJV that would not be found in other translations.
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Post by bobthewebguy on Jul 1, 2019 14:08:48 GMT -6
Fine, Raise you hands if you agree with this? "For the love of money is the root of all evil:" the common thought on this verse is that, THE LOVE of money is bad. That's the traditional meaning of that verse. That we should NOT LOVE MONEY. Correct? I would say that 99.9% of Christians would hold that view. Correct?
And what about the reason Satan was kicked out of Heaven? PRIDE! Correct? Again about 99.99% would hold that view. Correct? Following?
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Post by mike on Jul 1, 2019 14:28:10 GMT -6
Mostly with you Bob
From the KJV 1 Tim 6:10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.
Hover over the verse for ESV version.
Now Satan and being kicked out of heaven...this whole thing is debated in another thread, but for the sake of argument please proceed.
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Post by bobthewebguy on Jul 1, 2019 14:36:27 GMT -6
Well, I would say that yes, 99.9% of Christians would agree with what I just said and guess what? They would all be wrong! Everyone of them. Here's what I found in the KJV ONLY. dbws.biz/evil/
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Post by bobthewebguy on Jul 1, 2019 14:46:49 GMT -6
Let me know if you want another one.
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Post by Natalie on Jul 1, 2019 14:48:48 GMT -6
I would say that Satan got kicked out because he wanted to be God. He wanted to ascend and take the seat of the Most High.
Isaiah 14:13-14
So, in that I agree with your link. He coveted what God had.
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Post by bobthewebguy on Jul 1, 2019 14:53:36 GMT -6
Sorry, that's not the same thing. You didn't read it carefully. BTW, the emphasis is on the incorrect translation other than the KJV. Those other translations are WRONG!
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Post by Natalie on Jul 1, 2019 15:01:26 GMT -6
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Post by Natalie on Jul 1, 2019 15:04:52 GMT -6
with that I am done. you can hold to your KJV only and I will hold to believing that there are many good translations out there (including the KJV) and we can benefit from the study of any one of them.
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Post by bobthewebguy on Jul 1, 2019 15:05:05 GMT -6
WOW talk about changing the subject.... You know Natalie, I once shared this with a preacher and said to me. "You're probably right, but, I'm going to continue to preach what I have always preached" Now wonder Jesus had so much trouble with the Jews and their traditions.
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Post by mike on Jul 1, 2019 15:09:51 GMT -6
Well, I would say that yes, 99.9% of Christians would agree with what I just said and guess what? They would all be wrong! Everyone of them. Here's what I found in the KJV ONLY. dbws.biz/evil/Bob, this is why we take scripture in its context and not one verse at a time and out of its context. When i read the whole section I see that Paul is instructing or advising Timothy about the issues of arguing of doctrines with those who are perverse in their minds. See its not the money, its the heart of the person, loving the money at the root of the issue. 3 If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, [even] the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness; 4 He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings, 5 Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself. 6 But godliness with contentment is great gain. 7 For we brought nothing into [this] world, [and it is] certain we can carry nothing out. 8 And having food and raiment let us be therewith content. 9 But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and [into] many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition. 10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows. 11 But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness. 12 Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, whereunto thou art also called, and hast professed a good profession before many witnesses.
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Post by bobthewebguy on Jul 1, 2019 15:52:09 GMT -6
So did you read my paper? Anyway, Let's get back to Macron. Looks like they have postponed the EU elections also. I really can't believe that this may be the year. If my old girlfriend whom I have been waiting for for 30 years get saved then that is the final clue. Just kidding. But, I always thought of her getting saved as a SIM EON experience. You know like how he saw the Lord before he died.
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Post by mike on Jul 1, 2019 16:42:04 GMT -6
So did you read my paper? Anyway, Let's get back to Macron. Looks like they have postponed the EU elections also. I really can't believe that this may be the year. If my old girlfriend whom I have been waiting for for 30 years get saved then that is the final clue. Just kidding. But, I always thought of her getting saved as a SIM EON experience. You know like how he saw the Lord before he died. Bob, I understand you may have ADD but this thread is about Garys bible translation not Macron. We can carry on the diatribe there. We will agree to disagree on translations. sound ok?
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Post by cwood85 on Jul 1, 2019 17:38:20 GMT -6
OK one at a time. The bible teaches clearly that women are to be a helpmate to their man. They are not to usurp authority over the man. They are to help the man. Not rule over them. There are only exceptions in the bible where women are in any spiritual authority. It is quite clear the requirements for a Pastor. And it ain't being married to a man. As a Jew, I understand how women only until recently started to become Rabbi's. Look at the wailing wall. Separate women from men. The orthodox would have it no other way. One needs to remember how it was before this last generation that probably began in 1948. Completely different. No women preachers, excuse me, very few women preachers etc. I really never quote scripture because again, I'm lazy, it's difficult, you know the scriptures, and I find it a waste of time. I would if I thought it would help. I would never allow a women to teach me anything if there was a man who could just as well. And please don't anyone give me the political correct stuff. I hope that would hold no ground here.. Let me look at those scriptures you sent. And BTW, no one answered my questions either. You mentioned in you first comment on this site that you have been kicked out of other forums or groups... Totally don’t see why they would do such a thing with you being so pleasant and all. I have ADD pretty bad as well Bob and admittedly when something starts to take too much juice to concentrate on, it can be easy to avoid or be lazy about it. It’s also easy to be ok with doing that as well because impulse and emotion operates the ADD mind more than logic and reason. So you know what really helps with the concentration is coffee, protein, omega 3’s, exercise, and removing distractions. Medicine and vitamins help a lot as well if you are into that sort of thing. Maybe I should change my female indicator to male though so maybe you would actually learn something and not be dumbed down by a female giving you some information. And for clarification sake, I do not uphold feminism or anything of that sort because I believe it is doing far more damage than good, just so you know I am not an extremist or political. But I do believe the Word of God. Especially when he says this: “There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.”-Galatians 3:28 Quoted that from the KJV for you. You need to go back and maybe see how many female priestess are referred in the New Testament and it was a female PRIESTESS/RABBI who held Jesus as a baby as Joseph and Mary went along their travels. I would also also go back and read what Paul is getting at with the female preachers and than go and look up how many letters he wrote to priestess of their own church or synagogue.
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