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Post by rant on Apr 26, 2019 18:43:48 GMT -6
As I have read these days I would say the so called Christian church thinks they must go through the tribulation. I would say about 80% would think so then you have about 10% loony toons so called Christians say we are in the Tribulation and others say the church will bring the kingdom in and win the whole earth and there really is no tribulation. And only I would say about 10% that are the true body of Christ and have it RIGHT!! The bible tells us what the Tribulation is all about >>I will thread Again the Bible spells out what the tribulation is all about and it has nothing to do with the CHURCH>> Now I can feel the 90% of the so called Christians crying and screeching about this! Its in the Bible>>read IT! Jacobs Trouble or If you want to call it the Tribulation has only a few Objectives!! to seal all prophecy>> to judge the wicked > to bring back His chosen people back to Him and set up the 1000 year Kingdom!! and that's it in a nut shell>to say! The tribulation has nothing to do with the Church!! So if the church is part of the wicked they have a place in the tribulation!! The bible talks about the jewish marriage>> As I see it the bible has no meaningless stories the jewish story is about the Rapture and GodJesus marriage to the Church The initial stages of the Jewish Wedding Model
It was normally the father of the groom who would initiate the selection of the bride for his son by contacting the woman’s father. Genesis 24 contains a great example of this where Abraham sends his servant to find a bride for his son Isaac [2] . In like manner, the Father has sent the Holy Spirit to receive a bride for His son, the Lord Jesus. And those ‘in Christ’ have been chosen by God for this very purpose! (Eph 1:4)
But things don’t come cheap you know! The father of the bride would then ask what the groom was willing to pay for his bride. Using the example in Gen 24, we see that gifts were given to Rebekah and her family to pay this price (Gen 24:51-53), Jesus had to pay far more for us however! May we never get ‘used to’ what He did!
1 Peter 1:18 tells us of the price which Jesus was willing to pay for His bride [3] .
‘For you know that it was not with perishable things such as silver or gold that you were redeemed…but with the precious blood of Christ…’
Once the bride to be had agreed to the marriage, a contract was written up which gave the responsibilities of each party and the agreed price to be paid. This process was usually completed by the drinking of wine from a shared cup. And even though the marriage ceremony was still to take place in the future, it was now a legal and binding marriage. This completed the ‘betrothal’ phase of the marriage. Now, I’m sure you understand the significance of this, but without wanting to insult your intelligence, let me spell it out anyway. The agreement that Jesus has with His bride is the ‘New Covenant’. At the last supper before going to the cross he spoke of this agreement and shared the cup of wine with His disciples.
Luke 22:19-20 ‘He took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, “This is my body given for you; do this in remembrance of me.” In the same way, after the supper he took the cup, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood, which is poured out for you .’
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Post by barbiosheepgirl on Apr 26, 2019 19:40:15 GMT -6
But He also said He would not eat nor drink until it is fulfilled in the Kingdom... 15And He said to them, “I have earnestly desired to eat this Passover with you before I suffer; 16for I say to you, I shall never again eat it until it is fulfilled in the kingdom of God.” 17And when He had taken a cup and given thanks, He said, “Take this and share it among yourselves; 18for I say to you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine from now on until the kingdom of God comes.”
I would suggest reading Ch 14 of the Revealing of Christ. Therein lies a timeframe, and those who come out of the winepress complete this Marriage Supper. rant , sorry in advance if you find me a so-called Christian based on my remarks. Please Please Pease, if you are a so-called Christian, can you practice it? The Bible has ALL to do with Jesus, every single verse, OT to NT. Those putting Faith into that can be consider His Church. So ergo, the Bible IS ALL ABOUT HIS CHURCH! From the start it was finding those faithful, then He established a Law to demonstrate Sin, and then He Died so as to PURCHASE the whole world, to undo Adam's sin. SOon He will destroy the clay/iron kingdom and the beast systems so that He will Reign. There is WAY more to what is going on than just the marriage and bride analogy. BUT, I know that each one of my brethren is where the Lord wants them in their Walk with Him, and I am not one that will "judge" anyone as to being a so-called Christian. You have valid points but none here are that stupid or blind to an open dialog of interpretation yet when you think many here are so-called Christians, you shut the eyes and ears of the many!
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Post by davewatchman on Apr 26, 2019 19:54:14 GMT -6
What's going on RANT? Long time no see. It would be easier to multi quote you if you would be so kind as to break up your posts into paragraphs. Old Dave's eyeballs are seeing a wall of text. As I have read these days I would say the so called Christian church thinks they must go through the tribulation. I would say about 80% would think so then you have about 10% loony toons so called Christians say we are in the Tribulation and others say the church will bring the kingdom in and win the whole earth and there really is no tribulation. I'm, one of the ten, the 10%. And only I would say about 10% that are the true body of Christ and have it RIGHT!! How do you KNOW that you are in the correct 10% Rant? Maybe you should start a Blog??? The bible tells us what the Tribulation is all about >>I will thread Again the Bible spells out what the tribulation is all about and it has nothing to do with the CHURCH>> Yes Jesus loves me, the Bible tells me so.
"Do not fear what you are about to suffer. Behold, the devil is about to throw some of you into prison, that you may be tested, "And for ten days you will have tribulation. Be faithful unto death, and I will give you the crown of life. - Rev 2:10The only ten days i can find right now are the ones between the Ascension day, and Pentecost. What if those days, are just days away? Would it be too spooky to tell? Now I can feel the 90% of the so called Christians crying and screeching about this! Its in the Bible>>read IT! Jacobs Trouble or If you want to call it the Tribulation has only a few Objectives!! to seal all prophecy>> to judge the wicked > to bring back His chosen people back to Him and set up the 1000 year Kingdom!! and that's it in a nut shell>to say! The tribulation has nothing to do with the Church!! So if the church is part of the wicked they have a place in the tribulation!! Are you worried about this rant? I'd be fairly sure that we'll be in the air for the vials. I think that we are in the appointed time of the end. It's just that troublesome "tribulation" term tends to be a blanket saying for the whole enchilada. Vaya con Dios Amigo. Go with God. Peaceful Sabbath.
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Post by jamie on Apr 26, 2019 19:55:35 GMT -6
You are too quick to question the salvation of those who disagree with you. I guess I'm one of those so called Christian looney toons.
In every instance where the word Church is mentioned in Revelation it refers to a specific Church in Asia minor. Who and where is the Church found in Revelation? They are called saints, servants, fellow-servants, brethren, and martyrs, etc.
The church is "the saints with whom the beast makes war with."
The Church is "the dead who die in the Lord."
"The church is the chosen (Christians) and faithful of ch. 17."
"The church is the Word of God, and for the testimony which they held:"
"They are the great multitude, which no man could number!"
"They are the ones who have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the lamb!"
"They are the ones who overcame the beast by the blood of the Lamb!"
"They are the ones who keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ!"
"They are the ones who would not worship the image of the beast!"
Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.
These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.
“Who will separate us from the love of Christ? Will tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril or sword?”
“They will deliver you to tribulation and will kill you, and you will be hated by all nations because of My name.”
2 Thessalonians 1:7 say that God will “give relief to you who are afflicted … when the Lord Jesus will be revealed from heaven”
You need to chill out rant, you're the same rant here as you are on the other forums.
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Post by mike on Apr 26, 2019 20:12:40 GMT -6
As I have read these days I would say the so called Christian church thinks they must go through the tribulation. I would say about 80% would think so then you have about 10% loony toons so called Christians say we are in the Tribulation and others say the church will bring the kingdom in and win the whole earth and there really is no tribulation. Last warning
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Post by rant on Apr 26, 2019 20:17:46 GMT -6
I am not one that will "judge" anyone as to being a so-called Christian.
You have valid points but none here are that stupid or blind to an open dialog of interpretation yet when you think many here are so-called Christians, you shut the eyes and ears of the many!
Sorry I do not agree with you at All ! your kinda Angela Merkel thinking >> let them in and it will be Kum Ba Yah thinking , This thinking is finished in the last day!! GodJesus came to this earth as a baby and was here and very passive !!>> the next time he comes back {OTHER THEN THE RAPTURE} There will be blood upto the bridle of a Horse! As Jesus on the cross said it is finished so is the Dis of Grace Is and like it or not Hell is coming to this Earth like it or not!! BAR>>it was written it will BE DONE!
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Post by jamie on Apr 26, 2019 20:39:01 GMT -6
I am not one that will "judge" anyone as to being a so-called Christian. You have valid points but none here are that stupid or blind to an open dialog of interpretation yet when you think many here are so-called Christians, you shut the eyes and ears of the many! Sorry I do not agree with you at All ! your kinda Angela Merkel thinking >> let them in and it will be Kum Ba Yah thinking , This thinking is finished in the last day!! GodJesus came to this earth as a baby and was here and very passive !!>> the next time he comes back {OTHER THEN THE RAPTURE} There will be blood upto the bridle of a Horse! As Jesus on the cross said it is finished so is the Dis of Grace Is and like it or not Hell is coming to this Earth like it or not!! BAR>>it was written it will BE DONE! We won't be judged upon what or how we believe about WHO will or who will not endure Tribulation. In fact, if heresy were to send people to hell we may all just plan on going there. There is heresy in every one and in every church. There are damnable and un-damnable heresies, and very few damnable ones. You need to chill out. You're the same here as you are on all the other forums I've encountered you on. Only here, I know your rant won't be tolerated.
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