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Post by Gary on Apr 3, 2019 10:15:31 GMT -6
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Post by bondservant on Apr 3, 2019 11:48:28 GMT -6
Excellent! God uses patterns and symmetry all through out His Word. He does not change. He is the same yesterday, today & forever.
Maranatha! <3
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Post by mike on Apr 3, 2019 14:10:04 GMT -6
GARY! thank you for the great research and encouragement to me! I continue to look heavenward daily for our King to return.
2Peter 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day [is] with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. 9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
Maranatha!
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Post by stormyknight on Apr 3, 2019 21:02:47 GMT -6
Thank you @gary! Goosebumps again! I'm always the first one to work in the morning in our little town and as I go from one building to the other getting things turned on or prepared for the day, I scan the predawn skies hoping and waiting... and wondering what it will be like. Like nothing I've ever seen before, I'm sure.
"He who testifies to these things says, “Yes, I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus! The grace of the Lord Jesus be with all the saints. Amen." Rev. 22:20-21
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Post by Gary on Apr 4, 2019 8:29:26 GMT -6
Thanks everyone. I added in a section yesterday on "Prophetic Reversals". Check that out when you get a chance.
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Post by stormyknight on Apr 4, 2019 9:34:53 GMT -6
@gary, I had to actively search for a word to define how this article makes me feel, because at first I wanted to say that I felt apprehensive. I didn't think that was right because it means anticipating something bad or evil. "I've got a bad feeling about this..." lol But I learned the definition of a word I've known about but didn't know what it meant and it is exactly how I felt after reading your article!
Sanguine: 1 : marked by eager hopefulness : confidently optimistic
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Post by Natalie on Apr 4, 2019 9:45:59 GMT -6
I have personal reasons for being on high watch during Passover and right after, but there is no denying that everything is pointing to us being sooooo close to His return.
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Post by andrew on Apr 4, 2019 12:05:31 GMT -6
Here's something I've shared to help get people's attention about the lateness of the hour.
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Post by kjs on Apr 4, 2019 15:19:35 GMT -6
On the main Page article -- someone by the name of RAE points out ....
Last year Israel won the Eurovision Song Contest which means that this year they get to host the 2019 contest.
Interestingly the first semi final is on the 14th MAY, the second semi final is on the 16th MAY and the final takes place on the 18th of MAY.
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I had forgotten about this until this reminder ....
Is it possible "something" will happen when the world's attention (or at least Europe's attention is on Israel ??)
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Post by venge on Apr 4, 2019 16:19:05 GMT -6
On your link, you state that 6000 years is coming up. I must disagree. It is my opinion that from Adam to 6,000 years happened back in 1887. I have a giant chart I have spent years making that dates from 2050 (future) to 1 AD and then from 1 BC working backwards to Adam. Then I put in factual births that we know without a doubt and used scripture to fit the rest. The mistake many make is starting with Adam as an unknown date and then using his birth date and then his sons and their sons as a descending timeline. It creates inaccuracies. Regardless, still placing the Exodus at 1446 BC making Moses 80/81 years old and Aaron 83/84 years old per 1 Kngs 6:1 and Ex 7:7, still gives the same time frame placing Adam closer to a 4114 BC.
They are some issues that are hard to address like the birth and death of Amram, Kohath and others that it doesn't mention much info on. There is a LARGE time gap between births that feel unrealistic.
Nevertheless, I think its prudent to point out that I firmly believe we have already passed 6,000 years long ago. I even backed it up with the reign of Kings (Mitanni, Larsa, Sumer, Elam, Judah, Samaria, Aram-Damascus, Roman, Egyptian and Hitti to name a few)
I also backed up the date with sabbatical years, a Gregorian calendar and the Hebrew calendar.
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Post by yardstick on Apr 4, 2019 22:05:58 GMT -6
venge , It would be good to see your work. Can you take photos and upload them here? You may need to use photobucket or some hosting site as a middleman. Some think the world might have been created at 3974 BC, others that it signaled the expulsion of Adam and Eve (Gen 3). If the 6000 year hypotheses were true, and based upon your calculation, we could make some 'if' statements (assumptions), and hypothesize thusly: Adam was 130 years old at the time of the birth of Seth (Gen 5:3), but we do not know if the years in question include those years where he was immortal (in the garden). We also can deduce that both Cain, and Abel were born well before Adam was 130; and we must assume that they were born after the expulsion from the Garden. We know the duration of human gestation is approximately a year, and that both Cain and Abel were at least old enough to know the difference between right and wrong. We also know that the Gen 4 passage cannot be in chronological order, because Cain had to have had a sister to take as wife in verse 17 (also Gen 5:4). Therefore, between verse 16 and 17 had to have been many many years: possibly decades. Hypothesis: Is it logical to assume that the aging of an individual requires that they be capable of aging? If so, then Adam's age count could have started at the time of the expulsion, not his creation in the Garden. Since the difference in time between 3974BC and your estimated creation date of 4114BC is 140 years, it could be possible that the 3974BC sign was given at the time of the expulsion, and would fit nicely with the dispensational view related to the covering of Adam and Even with animal skins and a promise made by God to them of a future Savior. In addition, if Adam 'started aging' at the time of the expulsion, and if his 'age' is taken from that time, then this too would fit: Adam and Eve would have spent approximately 10 years in the Garden before they were expelled. Lastly, if the 3974BC date fits with the explusion, and begins the 'time of man'; and if the 6000 year hypothesis is correct; then the 6000 years would end sometime in 2026. Depending on the actual day-date in 3974BC, it would probably be wise to assume that there will be some error involved in the day counts, so we still would 'know neither the day, nor the hour'. Therefore venge, the 6000 year hypothesis and the 3974 sign hypothesis (if used as the date of expulsion from the Garden) could fit with your calculated creation date of 4114BC. Of course, if we get past 2019 with no harpazo, then we should probably go back and re-examine these numbers. see the table at this link
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Post by venge on Apr 5, 2019 6:35:53 GMT -6
venge , It would be good to see your work. Can you take photos and upload them here? You may need to use photobucket or some hosting site as a middleman. Some think the world might have been created at 3974 BC, others that it signaled the expulsion of Adam and Eve (Gen 3). If the 6000 year hypotheses were true, and based upon your calculation, we could make some 'if' statements (assumptions), and hypothesize thusly: Adam was 130 years old at the time of the birth of Seth (Gen 5:3), but we do not know if the years in question include those years where he was immortal (in the garden). We also can deduce that both Cain, and Abel were born well before Adam was 130; and we must assume that they were born after the expulsion from the Garden. We know the duration of human gestation is approximately a year, and that both Cain and Abel were at least old enough to know the difference between right and wrong. We also know that the Gen 4 passage cannot be in chronological order, because Cain had to have had a sister to take as wife in verse 17 (also Gen 5:4). Therefore, between verse 16 and 17 had to have been many many years: possibly decades. Hypothesis: Is it logical to assume that the aging of an individual requires that they be capable of aging? If so, then Adam's age count could have started at the time of the expulsion, not his creation in the Garden. Since the difference in time between 3974BC and your estimated creation date of 4114BC is 140 years, it could be possible that the 3974BC sign was given at the time of the expulsion, and would fit nicely with the dispensational view related to the covering of Adam and Even with animal skins and a promise made by God to them of a future Savior. In addition, if Adam 'started aging' at the time of the expulsion, and if his 'age' is taken from that time, then this too would fit: Adam and Eve would have spent approximately 10 years in the Garden before they were expelled. Lastly, if the 3974BC date fits with the explusion, and begins the 'time of man'; and if the 6000 year hypothesis is correct; then the 6000 years would end sometime in 2026. Depending on the actual day-date in 3974BC, it would probably be wise to assume that there will be some error involved in the day counts, so we still would 'know neither the day, nor the hour'. Therefore venge, the 6000 year hypothesis and the 3974 sign hypothesis (if used as the date of expulsion from the Garden) could fit with your calculated creation date of 4114BC. Of course, if we get past 2019 with no harpazo, then we should probably go back and re-examine these numbers. see the table at this link I need to copy with a snipping tool and get a photobucket account. One issue I notated is Moses to Isaac. If one works from Isaac to Moses, it pushes their birth further back in time making a large gap over 150 years. This then pushes all patriarchs back. If we go by a hypothetical rule of the adv family conceiving by 40 years old and we start at Moses birth and work back in time, it brings the date of the patriarchs much nearer by those 150+ years. Then we have the difference in the Septuagint vs the Masoretic texts. The Septuagint has the patriarchs years spanning longer which seems to fit time as putting them before 1st dynasty Egypt. How could a flood fit in the 3rd dynasty yet they still lived. I’m still working on adding kings to my list. I modeled the work after Steinmann who wrote a book called From Abraham to Paul: a biblical chronology. I expanded on it to go from Adam to Abraham, then from him to Paul and Paul to today complete with wars, nations that fall and rise, important dates etc Also added archeological evidencin support for sabbatical years as stated previously. Some info on Egyptian Sothic dates and trying to match up other parts. I keep refining it but it’s tiresome. If I have time, I will try to screenshot a part so you can see. It’s in an excel type called .odt I don’t want it to be copied. I need to also correct mistakes in the timeline as some things are questionable
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Post by venge on Apr 6, 2019 17:22:42 GMT -6
venge , It would be good to see your work. Can you take photos and upload them here? You may need to use photobucket or some hosting site as a middleman. Some think the world might have been created at 3974 BC, others that it signaled the expulsion of Adam and Eve (Gen 3). If the 6000 year hypotheses were true, and based upon your calculation, we could make some 'if' statements (assumptions), and hypothesize thusly: Adam was 130 years old at the time of the birth of Seth (Gen 5:3), but we do not know if the years in question include those years where he was immortal (in the garden). We also can deduce that both Cain, and Abel were born well before Adam was 130; and we must assume that they were born after the expulsion from the Garden. We know the duration of human gestation is approximately a year, and that both Cain and Abel were at least old enough to know the difference between right and wrong. We also know that the Gen 4 passage cannot be in chronological order, because Cain had to have had a sister to take as wife in verse 17 (also Gen 5:4). Therefore, between verse 16 and 17 had to have been many many years: possibly decades. Hypothesis: Is it logical to assume that the aging of an individual requires that they be capable of aging? If so, then Adam's age count could have started at the time of the expulsion, not his creation in the Garden. Since the difference in time between 3974BC and your estimated creation date of 4114BC is 140 years, it could be possible that the 3974BC sign was given at the time of the expulsion, and would fit nicely with the dispensational view related to the covering of Adam and Even with animal skins and a promise made by God to them of a future Savior. In addition, if Adam 'started aging' at the time of the expulsion, and if his 'age' is taken from that time, then this too would fit: Adam and Eve would have spent approximately 10 years in the Garden before they were expelled. Lastly, if the 3974BC date fits with the explusion, and begins the 'time of man'; and if the 6000 year hypothesis is correct; then the 6000 years would end sometime in 2026. Depending on the actual day-date in 3974BC, it would probably be wise to assume that there will be some error involved in the day counts, so we still would 'know neither the day, nor the hour'. Therefore venge, the 6000 year hypothesis and the 3974 sign hypothesis (if used as the date of expulsion from the Garden) could fit with your calculated creation date of 4114BC. Of course, if we get past 2019 with no harpazo, then we should probably go back and re-examine these numbers. see the table at this link Here is a screenshot one a VERY small part. Then you may understand. linkHope you can view it. let me know. The time to the left is the years descending. The numbers in the middle of the screen is the year in BC. Jehoshapat died 866 BC. You see 861 was a sabbath year. During the reign of Ithobaal 1 of Tyre, Osorkon II of Egypt, Ben Hadad II of Aram Damascus etc.. Time to the far right is Hebrew calander
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Post by davewatchman on Apr 6, 2019 18:13:07 GMT -6
I have personal reasons for being on high watch during Passover and right after, but there is no denying that everything is pointing to us being sooooo close to His return. I agree with you, high watch during Passover. All Easter weekend. The crack of dawn on Sunday morning. I think we're close. Anything might happen at any time now, any day. I didn't agree with the Barry Setterfield article. But it gave me something to google on for about four hours this morning. I think that i now know more about the Ottoman sabils of the Old City of Jerusalem than i never wanted to know about before. If i can understand that the reason anyone would WANT for it to be 1536 instead of 1535, is that they might think 1535 has failed. Isaac Newton is the one who figured this out originally. The two periods of time shouldn't be added together. That, as he said, "does violence to the language of Daniel. Seven weeks, and sixty-two weeks. And 62 weeks times 7 = 434 years. 1535 + 434 = 1969. Then the Knesset decree in 1969. 1969 + seven "sevens" = 2018. 1969 + 49 years = 2018. But why didn't anything happen in 2018? It's like how the Jubilee Cycles are counted. 49+49+49+49+49+49+49+49+49+49 = TEN Jubilee Cycles (490 years) The 50th year IS the Jubilee, but that then becomes year #1 for the next Jubilee Cycle. The 49 years since 1969 have been, as Isaac Newton called it, "the compass of a Jubilee. And end with actions proper for a Jubilee, and of the highest nature for which a Jubilee can be kept. So, if this is true, we have been in the 50th year since this January. Anything can happen at any time. We are locked and loaded. The land, the Earth, will be given back to it's original Owner. And He will rule them with an iron scepter.
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