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Post by barbiosheepgirl on Feb 24, 2019 12:36:41 GMT -6
I think dave said this. Sometimes I get lost in who is quoting whom...
Here is a possible answer to the question above...
1000 years is 20 Jubilees.
The number 20 according to a source says this:
Twenty (20), which is one more than nineteen, is twice ten and can, at times, mean a complete or perfect waiting period.
it also says this about the number 20 :
The scriptures record at least 20 separate messages conveyed while a person is sleeping. God, through a dream, warned Abimelech not to go near Abraham's wife (Genesis 20:3). Jacob dreams of a ladder to heaven (Genesis 28:12) and is told in a second one to leave his employer (Genesis 31:10).
Jacob's employer Laban is warned to leave the patriarch alone (Genesis 31:24). Joseph dreamt of his brothers bowing before him (Genesis 37:5) then dreamt his parents would do the same (verse 9). A butler and a baker, in a Egyptian prison, dream what their fates will be (Genesis 40).
The Egyptian Pharaoh is informed two different times, while he is sleeping, about the country's food stores over the next fourteen years (Genesis 41). A person in the Midianite army dreams of Gideon conquered his people (Judges 7).
and it is significant for Solomon's temple this way: Solomon spent seven years building the house of God in Jerusalem and another 13 building his own home for a total number of 20 years. After he had completed both buildings Solomon gave Hiram, the king of Tyre, twenty cities in the land of Galilee (1Kings 9:10 - 11).
I am thinking that Jubilee counts are way under utilized by those making calculations. well, at least I am not seeing them considered to back up other periods of time.
Definition of Jubilee: The Year of the Jubilee involved a year of release from indebtedness (Leviticus 25:23-38) and all types of bondage. All prisoners and captives were set free, all slaves were released, all debts were forgiven, and all property was returned to its original owners. In addition, all labor was to cease for one year, and those bound by labor contracts were released from them. One of the benefits of the Jubilee was that both the land and the people were able to rest.
Has anyone counted the number of Jubilees from the time of creation for example? What about the number of Jubilees from the beginning of the first of three captivities of Israel? Things like. Just tossing that out there...
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Post by deekabee on Feb 24, 2019 13:50:04 GMT -6
I'd like to ask a question. I believe numbers are provided in scripture for a reason. Figuring out that reason is often difficult. I'm reading Daniel chapter 8 - about the vision Daniel had of the ram and goat. Daniel heard a holy one speaking, and another holy one asked him "How long will it take for the vision to be fulfilled - the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, the rebellion that causes desolation, and the surrender of the sanctuary and of the host that will be trampled underfoot?" The answer was "It will take 2300 evenings and mornings; then the sanctuary will be reconsecrated." I'm struggling to understand the 2300 days. Any thoughts?
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Post by Natalie on Feb 24, 2019 14:31:48 GMT -6
I'd like to ask a question. I believe numbers are provided in scripture for a reason. Figuring out that reason is often difficult. I'm reading Daniel chapter 8 - about the vision Daniel had of the ram and goat. Daniel heard a holy one speaking, and another holy one asked him "How long will it take for the vision to be fulfilled - the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, the rebellion that causes desolation, and the surrender of the sanctuary and of the host that will be trampled underfoot?" The answer was "It will take 2300 evenings and mornings; then the sanctuary will be reconsecrated." I'm struggling to understand the 2300 days. Any thoughts? That's a good question. Here are some of my thoughts... In context, Daniel 8 is a vision of the Media Persian empire fighting the Greek empire (see 8:20-21). I think most agree that verses 9-14 deal with the time of Antiochus Epiphanes. I think that the 2300 evenings and mornings have to do with that time period. I also wonder if it is 1150 days (a little over three years). Did it take them that many days until Hanukkah and rededicating the temple? It is a bit confusing though because in 8:17 Daniel is told that it is for the time of the end. In 8:26 he's told it's for many days from now. What I can say for sure is that it's something that would not happen in Daniel's time. Maybe there is a dual fulfillment - after the time of Epiphanes and after the time of the Antichrist? I'm going to do some googling and will be back if I find anything interesting.
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Post by Natalie on Feb 24, 2019 14:54:29 GMT -6
I found something, I think. I have not heard of this website "Associates for Biblical Research". It looks solid, but I haven't wandered around the site much other than looking at their belief statement and seeing if I recognized any of the staff. Anyway...There is a rather lengthy article on this topic. www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2018/04/30/Understanding-the-2300-e2809cEvenings-and-Morningse2809d-of-Daniel-814.aspx#Article
The beginning of the article talks about different interpretations and things of that sort. It's the latter part that then gets to figuring out when this 2300 is...Here are some quotes:
He then takes the understanding that the Jews use a 360 day calendar but need to add in leap months. (ETA on closer reading, the Greeks also used a 360 day calendar and had leap months every other year)
I know though that things can be fulfilled twice, so there is a possibility that 2300 evenings and mornings come into play during the 70th week.
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Post by boraddict on Feb 25, 2019 13:16:55 GMT -6
I'd like to ask a question. I believe numbers are provided in scripture for a reason. Figuring out that reason is often difficult. I'm reading Daniel chapter 8 - about the vision Daniel had of the ram and goat. Daniel heard a holy one speaking, and another holy one asked him "How long will it take for the vision to be fulfilled - the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, the rebellion that causes desolation, and the surrender of the sanctuary and of the host that will be trampled underfoot?" The answer was "It will take 2300 evenings and mornings; then the sanctuary will be reconsecrated." I'm struggling to understand the 2300 days. Any thoughts? King James Version Hi deekabee. As you can see and as Natalie has stated, the two horns of the ram represent the two kings of Media and Persia (v. 20:20) and the goat is the king of Grecia with the horn between the eyes thereof as the first king (v. 8:21). This portion of the vision is historical to us with the Belshazzar (v. 8:1) and Cyrus (v. 8:3) as the horns on the ram and Alexander as the horn on the Goat. There are several years between Belshazzar and Cyrus (v. 8:3) and many more years between Cyrus and Alexander (v. 8:7). Additionally, there are several years between Alexander as the first king in Grecia and the four resulting kingdoms (v. 8:8). Lastly there is a little horn that arises from one of the four of Grecia (v. 8:9). Again there are many years between the four of Grecia and this little horn of the last days. This little horn in the last days (our time) is against the saints that are called the hosts of heaven and he is against the non-Christians called the stars (v. 8:10). It is easy to see that this little horn of Dan. Chapter 8 is the little horn of Dan. Chapter 7. Notice that this little horn "stamped upon them" in Verse 8:10 as well as Verse 7:19. It is also reasonable that the four kingdoms of Chapter 8 (v. 8:8) are the four of Chapter 7 (vv. 7:4-7). I think schooldad has an analysis to support this conclusion. The main point of the vision is found in Verse 8:11 as follows: "Yea, he (the little horn) magnified (increased) himself even to the prince (Christ) of the host (Israel), and by him (the little horn) the daily sacrifice was taken away (taken from God's people), and the place of his sanctuary (Jerusalem) was cast down." Then Daniel asks "How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot?" To which Gabriel responds "Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed." Thus, from the time that the little horn makes his move to end the daily sacrifice and cause the transgression of desolation to both cause the sanctuary and the host (Israel) to be trodden under foot until the sanctuary is cleansed is 2300 days and that is just over 6 years. So it appears that the little horn beast arises and then at some point causes the abomination and then 2300 days later the sanctuary is cleansed meaning that Christ has returned and the earth is cleansed. Keep in mind that the saints are taken just after the beast arises. So there are some gaps in the time sequence as follows: Beast arises time gap saints taken on rapture time gap Jerusalem dominated by the beast 2300 days Christ cleans the earth
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Post by mike on Feb 25, 2019 13:48:11 GMT -6
I'd like to ask a question. I believe numbers are provided in scripture for a reason. Figuring out that reason is often difficult. I'm reading Daniel chapter 8 - about the vision Daniel had of the ram and goat. Daniel heard a holy one speaking, and another holy one asked him "How long will it take for the vision to be fulfilled - the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, the rebellion that causes desolation, and the surrender of the sanctuary and of the host that will be trampled underfoot?" The answer was "It will take 2300 evenings and mornings; then the sanctuary will be reconsecrated." I'm struggling to understand the 2300 days. Any thoughts? I recommend commentary from bible hub
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Post by wasp on Feb 25, 2019 21:18:05 GMT -6
I'd love like nothing else for the rapture to be tomorrow and we can all go home to be with Jesus....but...
What if the pre-trib model is not correct? We're looking at hell on Earth for yrs on end. My pastor is a postie. He doesn't cram it down our throat, but I could tell he was disappointed the other day when I told him I still lean pre-trib. I just don't care to contemplate the alternative. That's nothing to look fwd to. At all.
I have a feeling we'll know one way or another soon.
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Post by Natalie on Feb 25, 2019 22:00:32 GMT -6
One thing (ok, it turned out to be more than one thing) that I consider...in 1 Thes it tells us that we will be caught up to meet Him in the clouds. Why would we just go up to meet Him in the clouds only to come back when He touches down in Israel? In John 14 He tells us that He is going to prepare a place and come again to take us there. It's not an up in the clouds, back down to earth to vanquish the Antichrist and then back to heaven to our dwelling place. Or up into the clouds and He leaves us there while He comes on down where every eye will see Him and mourn. And...if His Second Coming is a time of mourning for all the earth, how is that our blessed hope? There are too many things that say, at least to me, that the rapture and second coming are two different things.
And Isaiah 26:19-21 Read that and then read 1 Thes 4:15-17 The dead rise, along with a call to "come", then the Lord comes out to deliver His wrath on the earth. We are not destined for wrath (1 Thes 5:9) We will be kept from the time of trial that comes to the whole earth (Rev 3:10) We will be kept from Daniel's 70th week - the last week of Israel's history according to Daniel 9.
What is the purpose of this last week? Jeremiah 30:1-11 It's not a time for the church.
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Post by neural on Feb 25, 2019 23:00:25 GMT -6
The blog seems to have had issues posting comments, so will leave this here: "Consider the August 21, 2017 Eclipse. It crossed over 7 'Salems'. Peace. Peace. Peace. Peace. Peace. Peace. Peace. Recall Phroah's dreams in Genesis 41. 7 years of plenty, 7 years of famine. April 8th, 2024, is the second solar eclipse to cross America, creating a large X mark. Perhaps the end of 7 years of peace (in spite of Syria, things have been rather calm, and Israel is doing exceptionally well), and the beginning of 7 years of tribulation? Maybe, maybe not, but 2024 + 7 is 2031. For those who believe, as I do, that Jesus was crucified at the age of 33, but born in 2BC (so yeah, 2 years before himself), 2031 happens to be exactly 2000 years since His crucifixion by those numbers. No guarantees, but I find this information curious. Especially with the peace deal coming out soon. It will be a big deal when it comes out, but it would be foolish to also assume that people are just going to jump to the table to sign it. The democrats here in the USA will do everything in their power to sabotage it so that it wouldn't be signed until they have their own president doing it, and I can honestly see the Arabs taking over 3 years to agree on where the sun rises, let alone agree on a peace plan. With that in mind, I believe the birth of Jesus, or His crucifixion is a point at which one "day" ended, and the last two "days" began. Our Lord represents a chronological anchor in that respect."
(edited because I mistakenly referenced 2031 to His birth, not His crucifixion)
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Post by boraddict on Feb 26, 2019 0:50:31 GMT -6
The blog seems to have had issues posting comments, so will leave this here: "Consider the August 21, 2017 Eclipse. It crossed over 7 'Salems'. Peace. Peace. Peace. Peace. Peace. Peace. Peace. Recall Phroah's dreams in Genesis 41. 7 years of plenty, 7 years of famine. April 8th, 2024, is the second solar eclipse to cross America, creating a large X mark. Perhaps the end of 7 years of peace (in spite of Syria, things have been rather calm, and Israel is doing exceptionally well), and the beginning of 7 years of tribulation? Maybe, maybe not, but 2024 + 7 is 2031. For those who believe, as I do, that Jesus was crucified at the age of 33, but born in 2BC (so yeah, 2 years before himself), 2031 happens to be exactly 2000 years since His crucifixion by those numbers. No guarantees, but I find this information curious. Especially with the peace deal coming out soon. It will be a big deal when it comes out, but it would be foolish to also assume that people are just going to jump to the table to sign it. The democrats here in the USA will do everything in their power to sabotage it so that it wouldn't be signed until they have their own president doing it, and I can honestly see the Arabs taking over 3 years to agree on where the sun rises, let alone agree on a peace plan. With that in mind, I believe the birth of Jesus, or His crucifixion is a point at which one "day" ended, and the last two "days" began. Our Lord represents a chronological anchor in that respect."
(edited because I mistakenly referenced 2031 to His birth, not His crucifixion)
Hi neural. I am trying to understand your time line as follows: 2 BC Lord Jesus is born 33 year life of the Savior 31 AD Lord Jesus is crucified 21 Aug 2017 the solar eclipse 7 years of peace/plenty 8 April 2024 the 2nd solar eclipse 7 years of war/famine 2031 is 2000 years from the crucifixion What is the one "day" and the last two "days"?
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Post by neural on Feb 26, 2019 2:39:10 GMT -6
Hi, the 1 day and 2 days meaning to be the 1000 years, in which 1000 years is as a day to God, and a day is as 1000 years.
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Post by boraddict on Feb 27, 2019 20:45:07 GMT -6
The blog seems to have had issues posting comments, so will leave this here: "Consider the August 21, 2017 Eclipse. It crossed over 7 'Salems'. Peace. Peace. Peace. Peace. Peace. Peace. Peace. Recall Phroah's dreams in Genesis 41. 7 years of plenty, 7 years of famine. April 8th, 2024, is the second solar eclipse to cross America, creating a large X mark. Perhaps the end of 7 years of peace (in spite of Syria, things have been rather calm, and Israel is doing exceptionally well), and the beginning of 7 years of tribulation? Maybe, maybe not, but 2024 + 7 is 2031. For those who believe, as I do, that Jesus was crucified at the age of 33, but born in 2BC (so yeah, 2 years before himself), 2031 happens to be exactly 2000 years since His crucifixion by those numbers. No guarantees, but I find this information curious. Especially with the peace deal coming out soon. It will be a big deal when it comes out, but it would be foolish to also assume that people are just going to jump to the table to sign it. The democrats here in the USA will do everything in their power to sabotage it so that it wouldn't be signed until they have their own president doing it, and I can honestly see the Arabs taking over 3 years to agree on where the sun rises, let alone agree on a peace plan. With that in mind, I believe the birth of Jesus, or His crucifixion is a point at which one "day" ended, and the last two "days" began. Our Lord represents a chronological anchor in that respect."
(edited because I mistakenly referenced 2031 to His birth, not His crucifixion)
Hi neural. I like how you did your calculations and was thinking of how to apply my timeline as you have done yours. Christ was born in 3 BC add 2,000 years = 1997 AD add 30 years = 2027 AD add 70 weeks = 2028 AD subtract seven years of trouble = 2021, Tribulation starts here subtract seven years of plenty = 2014 subtract seven years of trouble = 2007 Just a guess. I was actually looking for something else that I read the other day that now I can not find; perhaps tomorrow.
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Post by sog on Feb 27, 2019 22:22:16 GMT -6
The blog seems to have had issues posting comments, so will leave this here: "Consider the August 21, 2017 Eclipse. It crossed over 7 'Salems'. Peace. Peace. Peace. Peace. Peace. Peace. Peace. Recall Phroah's dreams in Genesis 41. 7 years of plenty, 7 years of famine. April 8th, 2024, is the second solar eclipse to cross America, creating a large X mark. Perhaps the end of 7 years of peace (in spite of Syria, things have been rather calm, and Israel is doing exceptionally well), and the beginning of 7 years of tribulation? Maybe, maybe not, but 2024 + 7 is 2031. For those who believe, as I do, that Jesus was crucified at the age of 33, but born in 2BC (so yeah, 2 years before himself), 2031 happens to be exactly 2000 years since His crucifixion by those numbers. No guarantees, but I find this information curious. Especially with the peace deal coming out soon. It will be a big deal when it comes out, but it would be foolish to also assume that people are just going to jump to the table to sign it. The democrats here in the USA will do everything in their power to sabotage it so that it wouldn't be signed until they have their own president doing it, and I can honestly see the Arabs taking over 3 years to agree on where the sun rises, let alone agree on a peace plan. With that in mind, I believe the birth of Jesus, or His crucifixion is a point at which one "day" ended, and the last two "days" began. Our Lord represents a chronological anchor in that respect."
(edited because I mistakenly referenced 2031 to His birth, not His crucifixion)
Hi neural. I like how you did your calculations and was thinking of how to apply my timeline as you have done yours. Christ was born in 3 BC add 2,000 years = 1997 AD add 30 years = 2027 AD add 70 weeks = 2028 AD subtract seven years of trouble = 2021, Tribulation starts heresubtract seven years of plenty = 2014 subtract seven years of trouble = 2007 Just a guess. I was actually looking for something else that I read the other day that now I can not find; perhaps tomorrow. Interesting number, 21. 9/23/2017 + 1260 = 3/6/2021 3 1/2 years later = 2024 www.biblestudy.org/bibleref/meaning-of-numbers-in-bible/21.htmlwww.biblewheel.com/GR/GR_21.phpwww.ridingthebeast.com/numbers/nu21.phplistverse.com/2012/09/20/top-10-significant-numbers-in-biblical-numerology/From this link - "Isaiah’s prophecy of the coming of the Messiah becomes explicit at Chapter 7, verse 14, “Behold a virgin shall conceive and bear a son.” 14 is twice 7, and the two add up to 21.There are 14 generations from Abraham to david, 14 from David to the Baylonian exile of the Jews, and 14 from there to Jesus. These generations are divined thrice, thus 3 sets of 14, or 42, twice 21.There are 21 chapters in the Gospel of John. There are three epistles of John, with 5, 1, and 1 chapters respectively. 5 plus 1 plus 1 equals 7, times 3 epistles equals 21. In the Revelation, believed by many to have been written by the same John, there are 3 dispensations of God’s wrath, first 7 seals, then 7 trumpets, then 7 bowls of wrath. 7 times 3 equals 21. “God” or “Lord” appear in the King James Bible a total of 10,875 times. 1 plus 8 plus 7 plus 5 equals 21, or 7 times 3.There are 22 chapters in Revelation (see # 9), and the last chapter contains no violence of any kind. It is the absolute final aftermath of everything, depicting solely the perfection of life in the New Jerusalem, Heaven on Earth, with God and Jesus reigning on thrones in the center of the city, where death and pain no longer, and never again, exist. Thus, the 21 chapters preceding this can be seen as the totality of God’s judgment against the wicked, and punishment and destruction of evil, followed by the number 1, a single chapter all on its own, “a new beginning.” The 22nd chapter ends on the 21st verse, “The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.” 2 plus 2 plus 2 plus 1 equals 7"
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Post by davewatchman on Mar 2, 2019 8:24:05 GMT -6
I think dave said this. Sometimes I get lost in who is quoting whom... That's my fault, sorry barbio. I was quoting from my friend Larry Wilson. Meaning that the Millennium starts 2026 with Christ's return. Year 6000 to 7000 of human history or 2026-3026 on our calendar. The larger idea behind this hypothesis is that if Jesus closes the “Friday” millennium by destroying the kingdoms of Earth (at the Second Coming), then the 1,000 years that follow would be a Sabbath of rest for the land. Planet Earth would rest from the works of sin during a Sabbath millennium. This hypothesis is interesting because the first full day for Adam and Eve was a Sabbath rest and the first full year for Israel in the Promised Land was a Sabbath year. Will the first full millennium for the saints be a Sabbath millennium? On the other hand, if we say that God is not following a millennial calendar, what is the point of knowing in advance about the duration of 1,000 years in Revelation 20? In other words, what contribution does 1,000 years bring to our overall prophetic understanding if not a definite span of time? We know that God is deliberate and purposeful in everything He does and says. On this basis we have to believe that God deliberately set the duration of 1,000 years in Revelation 20 because that length of time fits into His perfect plan somehow. When does the 6,000th year of sin end? When does the 1,000 years of Revelation 20 begin? These are interesting questions that merit examination. - Larry W I put the " - Larry W" at the end of it, but what i should have done is like what you did and done this: The idea here is that you could name each of the seven sets of 1000 year "days" as the days of the regular week with the end of the "Friday" millennium being the end of the 6000th "year". And the last 1000 years of this timeline would be the seventh millennial "day" when the earth will enjoy a Sabbath rest from the problem of sin. Why else would God even make a mention of the 1000 years in Revelation 20? The thousand years are mentioned five times in Revelation 20. Or another way to look at it is if the 1000 years were NOT made known to us at this point in time, would we now be watching for the 6000 years to soon be concluded? Even many of the early church leaders must have seen that there were 7000 years of Earth history being recorded in the Scriptures, with the 1000 year "day" of Revelation 20 being a specific conclusion to that large section of time. 1000 years is 20 Jubilees. It depends on how the Jubilees are counted. Yes there are 20 Jubilees in 1000 years. But there can also be 20 Jubilees in 980 years. Ten jubilee Cycles goes like this: 49+49+49+49+49+49+49+49+49+49= 490 years. That's 70 "weeks" of years. I know that it looks confusing. Don't worry. The 50th year IS the Jubilee year, but that then becomes year number one for the next Jubilee Cycle. Did you know that the spellchecker wants to change barbiosheepgirl into phenobarbital? The number 20 according to a source says this: Twenty (20), which is one more than nineteen, is twice ten and can, at times, mean a complete or perfect waiting period.it also says this about the number 20 : The scriptures record at least 20 separate messages conveyed while a person is sleeping. God, through a dream, warned Abimelech not to go near Abraham's wife (Genesis 20:3). Jacob dreams of a ladder to heaven (Genesis 28:12) and is told in a second one to leave his employer (Genesis 31:10). Jacob's employer Laban is warned to leave the patriarch alone (Genesis 31:24). Joseph dreamt of his brothers bowing before him (Genesis 37:5) then dreamt his parents would do the same (verse 9). A butler and a baker, in a Egyptian prison, dream what their fates will be (Genesis 40). The Egyptian Pharaoh is informed two different times, while he is sleeping, about the country's food stores over the next fourteen years (Genesis 41). A person in the Midianite army dreams of Gideon conquered his people (Judges 7). and it is significant for Solomon's temple this way: Solomon spent seven years building the house of God in Jerusalem and another 13 building his own home for a total number of 20 years. After he had completed both buildings Solomon gave Hiram, the king of Tyre, twenty cities in the land of Galilee (1Kings 9:10 - 11). That's interesting. I look at those types of things too. I am thinking that Jubilee counts are way under utilized by those making calculations. well, at least I am not seeing them considered to back up other periods of time. Definition of Jubilee: The Year of the Jubilee involved a year of release from indebtedness (Leviticus 25:23-38) and all types of bondage. All prisoners and captives were set free, all slaves were released, all debts were forgiven, and all property was returned to its original owners. In addition, all labor was to cease for one year, and those bound by labor contracts were released from them. One of the benefits of the Jubilee was that both the land and the people were able to rest. Has anyone counted the number of Jubilees from the time of creation for example? What about the number of Jubilees from the beginning of the first of three captivities of Israel? Things like. Just tossing that out there... I like this. But i don't think that we have to worry about counting the Jubilee Cycles from what may or may not be an erroneous starting point in history. From the decree, until Messiah the Prince, will be seven sevens, or 49 years. And the 50th is the compass of a Jubilee fit for a King. But God's People had to wait for the wicked for their times have not reached their fullness. The sins of the Amorites have not reached their fullness. God made righteous Abraham and all the people wait four generations because the wicked of that time, the times of those gentiles had not reached their fullness. "In the fourth generation your descendants will come back here, for the sin of the Amorites has not yet reached its full measure."
"After four generations your descendants will return here to this land, for the sins of the Amorites do not yet warrant their destruction."
"Four generations later, your descendants will return here and take this land, because only then will the people who live here be so sinful that they deserve to be punished.I think we are here again, but already at the LATTER part of their reign. Even our government leaders have been given a strong delusion and are celebrating the lie. Think of the politicians celebrating the passing of that New York abortion law. Why would they do that? Why do they think it's a good thing? They truly believe that they are doing a good thing. Calling evil good. God gave them over to a strong delusion, and they believe their own lie. And when the times of these "gentiles", these end time Amorites, are finished, there will be no more delay and the prophetic will commence extremely fast. Extremely suddenly like on the day that Lot left out from Sodom and they will not escape. Like lightning shining from the east and to the west. I thought this could have started yesterday. And then both the land and the people will rest. For a thousand years the Earth will enjoy it's rest. The land will be returned to it's original Owner. God owns the Earth, right? And the cattle on a thousand hills. Peaceful Sabbath.
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Post by davewatchman on Mar 2, 2019 9:22:20 GMT -6
I think we are here again, but already at the LATTER part of their reign. Even our government leaders have been given a strong delusion and are celebrating the lie. Think of the politicians celebrating the passing of that New York abortion law. Why would they do that? Why do they think it's a good thing? They truly believe that they are doing a good thing. Calling evil good. God gave them over to a strong delusion, and they believe their own lie. And when the times of these "gentiles", these end time Amorites, are finished, there will be no more delay and the prophetic will commence extremely fast. Extremely suddenly like on the day that Lot left out from Sodom and they will not escape. Like lightning shining from the east and to the west. I thought this could have started yesterday. And i was also thinking about this in the other note. I don't really like talking about it too much. Reader discretion is advised.In the partial birth abortions, the late stage abortions, the procedure requires the removal of the infant's head in order to get the baby's body out of the so called "mother's" body. These things can be found on google. These infants, many of them, were Saints. Or they should have gone on to become Saints. But they gave their testimony, they testified with their innocent lives. As did the slaughter of the innocents by Herod when he was trying to kill baby Jesus in the first century. Could the slaughter of these innocents be added to all the Christian persecution and beheadings from around the world in these last three and a half years? Has the fifth seal already been opened? "When he opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain because of the word of God and the testimony they had maintained. They called out in a loud voice, “How long, Sovereign Lord, holy and true, until you judge the inhabitants of the earth and avenge our blood?” Then each of them was given a white robe, and they were told to wait a little longer, until the full number of their fellow servants, their brothers and sisters, were killed just as they had been.
I wonder if the souls already beneath the alter are from the previous days, the Foxe Book Days, and prior to that. We could be closer to that "full number", of our fellow servants, our brothers and sisters, than we think.
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