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Post by kjs on Feb 14, 2019 10:14:57 GMT -6
JUST want to make sure everyone is aware!!!!
Like many of you -- I have always known this verse to say "Peace and Safety".....
1 Thessalonians 5: 3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. [KJV]
BUT MANY of the newer translations actual say .... "Peace and Security" .......
1 Thessalonians 5: 3 While people are saying, “There is peace and security,” then sudden destruction will come upon them as labor pains come upon a pregnant woman, and they will not escape. [ESV]
Let's take a look at the actual word that Paul Used....
803. asphaleia -- asphaleia: certainty, security --- Usage: safety, security, reliability, firmness -- security from enemies and dangers, safety
DID EVERYONE catch that? The word is "SECURITY".......
For the life of me; I really cannot understand how PEOPLE -- are not seeing the connection ......
1 Thessalonians 5 Now concerning the times and the seasons, brothers, you have no need to have anything written to you. 2 For you yourselves are fully aware that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night. 3 While people are saying, “There is peace and security,” then sudden destruction will come upon them as labor pains come upon a pregnant woman, and they will not escape. 4 But you are not in darkness, brothers, for that day to surprise you like a thief.
Can you hear it? The door handle is starting to turn.... Soon Jesus Christ will be stepping back onto the scene !!!!!!!!!
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Post by gkp on Feb 14, 2019 10:32:44 GMT -6
I saw this too and I really appreciate your enthusiastic encouragement brother!
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Post by mike on Feb 14, 2019 12:09:32 GMT -6
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Post by stormyknight on Feb 14, 2019 12:47:19 GMT -6
I love that, kjs ! "the door handle is starting to turn." YEEESSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by mike on Feb 15, 2019 9:00:04 GMT -6
Not sure if y'all caught this and made the connection. Who remembers Pres Trump a few months back talking about sanctions on Iran "then war will follow"? I posted that someplaceEDIT - found it and linked. The sanctions took effect last week (I think?) the war is on its way folks!
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Post by sog on Feb 15, 2019 11:17:45 GMT -6
Not sure if y'all caught this and made the connection. Who remembers Pres Trump a few months back talking about sanctions on Iran "then war will follow"? I posted that someplaceEDIT - found it and linked. The sanctions took effect last week (I think?) the war is on its way folks! mike, You May be on to something. There is definitely something secretive taking place here. Netanyahu’s slip was taken down. Question now is when do you think this will happen? www.businessinsider.com/israels-netanyahu-admits-to-being-in-a-secretive-war-with-iran-2019-2“An initial translation of a video message by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Wednesday appeared to show him saying Israel was trying to "advance the common interest of war with Iran." Netanyahu's Twitter account translated and tweeted his statement, but it was soon taken down. Israeli officials told US officials that it was a mistranslation, according to NBC News, and Netanyahu's office corrected the tweet to "combatting Iran," using the figurative translation for the Hebrew word used by Netanyahu.“
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Post by kjs on Feb 15, 2019 13:29:07 GMT -6
Not sure if y'all caught this and made the connection. Who remembers Pres Trump a few months back talking about sanctions on Iran "then war will follow"? I posted that someplaceEDIT - found it and linked. The sanctions took effect last week (I think?) the war is on its way folks! With out getting into the "WAR" debate again (but I really did hear war)....
It is really strange that PM of Israel had a "mistranslated" of secretive war..........
we will soon see ...........
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Post by sog on Feb 16, 2019 10:44:55 GMT -6
Looks like April 9th, the Israel election, will be a day for watching... www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/kushner-mideast-peace-plan-expected-after-israeli-election/2019/02/14/553d174e-306f-11e9-8781-763619f12cb4_story.html?utm_term=.d5b8a684c0eb"WARSAW, Poland — President Donald Trump’s senior Middle East adviser, son-in-law Jared Kushner, said Thursday that the Trump administration would unveil its much-awaited Mideast “Deal of the Century” after Israeli elections on April 9." www.cnn.com/2019/02/16/politics/kushner-mideast-peace-plan/index.html"The United States is beginning to prep allies for a spring rollout of its plan for Middle East peace, with President Donald Trump's senior adviser and son-in-law, Jared Kushner, outlining the timing and methodology of the plan at the Middle East security conference in Warsaw, Poland. During a presentation Thursday, Kushner confirmed that the Trump administration will not release its peace plan prior to Israel's elections in April, according to a senior administration official present in the room." Also an interesting note on Kushner: The Gematria value of the phrase - His Number Six Six Six in Jewish Gematria equals: 1661: h i s N u m b e r s i x s i x s i x 8+9+90 + 40+200+30+2+5+80 + 90+9+300 + 90+9+300 + 90+9+300 = 1661 Jared's full name is Jared Corey Kushner. Jared Corey Kushner in Jewish Gematria equals: 1661: J a r e d C o r e y K u s h n e r 600+1+80+5+4 + 3+50+80+5+400 + 10+200+90+8+40+5+80 = 1661 Now I know depending on the Biblical translation being used it could read differently. NASB = 'his number is six hundred and sixty-six' KJB = 'his number is Six hundred threescore and six' ESV = ' his number is 666' etc.. And I know the word 'is' is missing from the gematria phrase above, but still interesting to note.
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Post by Gary on Feb 16, 2019 20:22:03 GMT -6
Yes, "security" seems like a perfectly acceptable translation.
Sometimes when translating between languages you run into this predicament where Language A has one word for one meaning and Language B has two or even three different words for one meaning (or vice versa).
April/May is looking like an increasingly significant watch time.
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