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Post by kjs on Nov 28, 2018 10:54:36 GMT -6
This is a scary story and you can find news clips and videos about this announcement on Youtube and News Stories.
Basically, if you read the entire article (or watch a video about it) -- it talks about a Chinese scientist (He Jiankui )who edited the "GENES" of twin babies.
Basically He created embryos from couples with an HIV-infected father.... then "edited out" the gene which allowed transmission of the HIV....
While on one hand, it seems like "good way" to stop babies being infected .... there is no guarantee that this edited out Gene -- is not needed for other health issues for the girls.... (which is the first concern)
The other concerns -- range from "developing a method to "design babies" -- for looks, intelligent, athletic ability......
To even (and a really scary thought here) -- whether these "EDITED" babies are even human?
What IF these EDITED beings -- are simply Body Shells -- for demons ?
Here is my thought (and I am no scientist) -- what if these Edits done to human embryo -- keeps the "soul" from entering the physical body?
My understanding is we Human Beings are made in God's Image -- most theologians believe that "the Image" is the SOUL aspect of us -- and not the physical shell....
So what IF -- this tampering creates -- body shells -- without the soul aspect?
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Post by Natalie on Nov 28, 2018 16:23:15 GMT -6
Well ...what about babies conceived naturally but have something genetically missing or not right?
But I agree that man has no right to edit the genes of another human.
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Post by cwood85 on Nov 28, 2018 21:37:47 GMT -6
Not an expert on genetics, but being a parent of a son born with a major heart defect (genetic disorder...) has taught me a thing or two on the basics of genetics and how they work. I also did loads of research before deciding to have another child and their risk of being born with a heart defect as well. Doctors told me it was a one in a million chance for a sibling to be born with the same or similar defect, my family history told me otherwise. There were two other boys on my grandmothers side of the family whose sons were born with heart defects. Both had another child in under two years from the first and the siblings were born with the same defect as the older brothers.
Now at that point I was terrified to have another child in fear of them also having a major heart surgery at birth (once was more than enough) and I looked into genetics a whole lot. What I learned is, we are not born with a set in stone genetic code to an extent. They change throughout our lifetime based on our environment, stress, diet, and lifestyle choices. Smokers create or cause genes that cause lung diseases, excessive sugar and carbs cause genes for type two diabetes, the list goes on and on.
What I also learned was that because our genes can change, this applies for either male or female how long the genetic anomaly can repeat or occur again. The more time that goes on the less likely it is to happen again, skip generations or be basically bred out. I read several studies that suggested to wait over two years to have another child if one was born with a genetic disorder because the risk dramatically decreases.
Genetics and computer codes are so similar in many ways. Our genes are our code of how we function, what we have resistance to, what we are susceptible to, how well our organs will form inutero and function throughout our life. Major skin disorders for example that previously have had no sort of successful treatments have been discovered to be caused by a missing or low functioning gene that aids in certain protein production. The absence of these proteins and binding tissues that rely of them fail and cause miserable diseases. Many patients once this gene is added, have healing and relief never found before.
Agent orange is being discovered to have affected certain genes or basically bring certain genes out that would not normally act the way they do, but cause problems in the presence of agent orange. These damaged genes are being carried from generation to generation and still causing the same deformities from going on two generations back now.
Computer codes missing a single dot, backslash and etc. can cause major damage or nuances. Depends on the code and its function. A data entry program I use at my job works great until certain keys are put in. Like adding a # sign before a check number for recording a payment causes random crazy issues, but just entering the check number is fine. Nobody can figure it out lol. Our genes in ways act very similar. Too many or too little of certain ones can cause major issues or even death.
Genetic and chromosome anomalies create disorders, diseases, physical deformities and death. Most babies who have too many or little of certain genes sometimes only make it hours to maybe a couple years of life before their bodies can no longer function properly. There pros and cons to this type of science.
The ideology however of editing genes for superiority, is probably not going to create soulless humans, but rather devestating consequences either in the child’s life or their children’s lives. This is about playing God and creating mankind’s path to immortality and trying to prolong or avoid death and not acknowledging that we are all sinners and the wages of sin is death.
It is humanities way of trying to obtain our own salvation by playing God through science. Edit out the bad stuff and we will truly be perfect. The root is pride. Pride in our abilities, knowledge and self sense of power.
Remember the purpose and mindset behind the Tower of Babel...
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Post by Natalie on Nov 29, 2018 8:32:39 GMT -6
Thank you, cwood. (glad to see you posting again ) I agree with you that there are pros and cons to this kind of science. People with disease could be helped, but I also see where it is an easy step to say, Lets just edit out that disease from the beginning. Yes, a direct path back to the Tower.
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Post by kjs on Nov 29, 2018 10:09:38 GMT -6
cwood85 like what you have to say and no my little conspiracy theory has no proof behind it.....
Here is the deal, I have been reading some interesting articles of the nephilim (the Gen 6:2 -sons of God) and in part of that reading/research it is implied
that the "demons" (evil spirits) -- were the souls of these nephilim when they died (like dying in the flood)....
Since that time (their death) they are trying to have bodies again ....
does that make it so -- of course not -- just bring about another chain of thought.....
This whole "designer baby" experimentation -- just seems really wacho to me.....
Yes, this current use (preventing HIV) seems worth while -- or even possibly other preventable diseases .....
But as you said -- this "Playing God" -- modifying what God put together (or allowing it to come together).... seems to fall in the sin of Pride......
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