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Post by kjs on Sept 12, 2018 10:00:32 GMT -6
This is just my random thoughts and I am by no means an expert ….
Many, Many people from Scottie, Rob Robinson, sure the list can go on and on including many on this website …..
Believe the RAPTURE will occur on the Feast of Trumpets or Rosh Hashanah…..
A Few Links robertcliftonrobinson.com/2018/08/10/the-feast-of-trumpets-and-the-rapture-september-9-11-2018/Most (if not all) make this claim because during Jesus’ first time around ….. He fulfilled many prophecies on the actual Feast Day.
Examples include:
Passover ---- Crucifixion Unleavened Bread ---- burial First Fruits ---- resurrection Pentecost ---- Holy Spirit sent Therefore they feel the next Feast to be fulfilled is Feast of Trumpets and therefore this should be the Rapture…..
Some also include items like Jesus saying “no one knows the day or hour” being an idiom for the Feast of Trumpets…..
BUT is this really the case?
See if you can follow my thinking….
God gave the feast days for Israel ……
God fulfilled the feast days for Israel …..
The Body of Christ (the church) only came about because Israel rejected the Messiah ….
In Fact Paul tells us specifically the hearts of the Israelis are harden until the time of the gentiles are fulfilled….
The Rapture is a Body of Christ (the church) specific thing (ie not promised to Israel)
So is it possible that the rapture will not occur on a Feast Day….. Especially not on the Feast of Trumpets?
OR even if the rapture is to happen of the Feast of Trumpets --- how are we sure the Jewish people are celebrating it on the correct day?
Either way ….. we are finished with this year’s (2018) Feast of Trumpets…..
Seems we are still here….
Sunset Jerusalem time for today (12th) is 6:49pm
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Post by mike on Sept 12, 2018 11:18:09 GMT -6
says you! I do like the approach and hope you are onto something with it. I am tired, very tired of this world and the system we are in. I find myself complaining to the Lord every morning " When will you come for us!" and usually my next thought is " who the H-E-double hockey sticks do you think you're talking to, you'll wait until He gets here"
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Post by davewatchman on Sept 12, 2018 11:24:35 GMT -6
This is just my random thoughts and I am by no means an expert ….
Passover ---- Crucifixion Unleavened Bread ---- burial First Fruits ---- resurrection Pentecost ---- Holy Spirit sent Therefore they feel the next Feast to be fulfilled is Feast of Trumpets and therefore this should be the Rapture…..
So is it possible that the rapture will not occur on a Feast Day….. Especially not on the Feast of Trumpets?
ALL my thoughts are random, and i'm not an expert on anything except how to lose my keys. But of the rapture not of the FoT, i'd say it's possible. And i'd say you're using good logic. But i also think the other people you mention use good logic too. And like you, i never did think the rapture would be on an exact feast day. It just seemed too easy. I always thought the rapture would be in winter. The fig tree will shed it's winter fruit when shaken by a mighty wind, right near the "darkened" sun and the moon not giving it's light of January. But i have an open mind to consider any possible scenario. A good watchman watches in all directions. I think it was witness1 that said that and i like it. But this is the first Yom Teruah since the Revelation 12 sign. Since last night i've been trying to understand the specifications of it and google is not my friend anymore. The idiom of no man can know the day or the hour. I thought it was supposed to be Feast of trumpets, then 10 days of Awe, and then the Day of Atonement on the tenth day. Like this: FoT-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-DoA If the FoT has a variable start, how can the DoA have a fixed start? There's supposed to be 10 days of Awe in between them. The Father has fixed a Day to judge the world by a man whom he has appointed; and of this he has given assurance to all by raising him from the dead. Maybe the answer is sitting right it front of me, right next to my lost keys. Maybe my neurotransmitters are tired. I'm worried now this thing is connected. Fot--------->DoA. Like to the day that Lot left out from Sodom. Like to the day that Nadab and Abihu brought strange fire to the Lord. And fire came out from the Lord and burnt them up. On the day before they received the instructions for the Day of Atonement on how to approach the Lord and live to tell of it. Nadab and Abihu kind of has a way of rolling off the tongue. Nadab and Abihu and Abba Dabba Doo. I'm still walking around here on my tip toes. I hope the DoA doesn't stand for Dead on Arrival, and they will not escape. I still think something's going to happen soon.
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Post by Natalie on Sept 12, 2018 11:49:56 GMT -6
My neurotransmitters are tired.
But I agree... something is going to happen soon.
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Post by rondonmonson on Sept 14, 2018 15:59:17 GMT -6
This is just my random thoughts and I am by no means an expert ….
Many, Many people from Scottie, Rob Robinson, sure the list can go on and on including many on this website …..
Believe the RAPTURE will occur on the Feast of Trumpets or Rosh Hashanah…..
A Few Links robertcliftonrobinson.com/2018/08/10/the-feast-of-trumpets-and-the-rapture-september-9-11-2018/Most (if not all) make this claim because during Jesus’ first time around ….. He fulfilled many prophecies on the actual Feast Day.
Examples include:
Passover ---- Crucifixion Unleavened Bread ---- burial First Fruits ---- resurrection Pentecost ---- Holy Spirit sent Therefore they feel the next Feast to be fulfilled is Feast of Trumpets and therefore this should be the Rapture…..
Some also include items like Jesus saying “no one knows the day or hour” being an idiom for the Feast of Trumpets…..
BUT is this really the case?
See if you can follow my thinking….
God gave the feast days for Israel ……
God fulfilled the feast days for Israel …..
The Body of Christ (the church) only came about because Israel rejected the Messiah ….
In Fact Paul tells us specifically the hearts of the Israelis are harden until the time of the gentiles are fulfilled….
The Rapture is a Body of Christ (the church) specific thing (ie not promised to Israel)
So is it possible that the rapture will not occur on a Feast Day….. Especially not on the Feast of Trumpets?
OR even if the rapture is to happen of the Feast of Trumpets --- how are we sure the Jewish people are celebrating it on the correct day?
Either way ….. we are finished with this year’s (2018) Feast of Trumpets…..
Seems we are still here….
Sunset Jerusalem time for today (12th) is 6:49pm
I have studied this extensively via the Feasts and the Two-brides (we won't go there now) and Leviticus 23 seems to give us the whole history of the world as per Gods callings. God called Israel, then the [mostly Gentile] Church, we get the Rapture, then Israel is back on the clock. Spring Feasts 1.) Feast of Passover (Jesus blood covers us) 2.) Feast of Unleavened Bread (Jesus was without Sin) 3.) Feast of First-fruits (Jesus was the first-fruits of the grave) Then we get the Harvest, which is on the Calendar all unto itself (Think Church Age) 4.) Feast of Weeks/Harvest/Pentecost (The Church Harvests souls for Christ Jesus the Sower for 2000 years, then we get what Paul called the LAST TRUMP, its the Feast of Trumps that always Ended the Harvest or Church Age !! Fall Feasts 5. Feast of Trumpets (Never did much, except announce things, it announces that the Harvest was/is over, so we are Raptured at the Last Trump, and then it announces that the Feast of Atonement and Tabernacle were/are nigh at hand. 6. Feast of Atonement (What is the 70th week designed for via Daniel 9:24-27 ? To get Israel to repent or Atone for their sins against God, the 70th week can not end until Israel Atone's. 7. Feast of Tabernacle (Tabernacle means to Dwell with God. After Israel Atone's, Jesus then resides in Jerusalem, ruling for 1000 years on earth, so God/Jesus tabernacles with Israel. The Holy Spirit was sent but the harvest (Church Age) is ongoing of course. So while its possible the Rapture could very well happen on a Feast of Trumpets, we still wouldn't know what year.
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Post by fitz on Sept 14, 2018 16:15:23 GMT -6
I get excited for the fall feasts, because I could be wrong. LOL. But IMHO, Jesus made it clear that he would come on a day that no one is expecting Him. That means, not a feast day. The feasts are for the Jewish people, not the Church. Because the spring feasts were literally fulfilled in rapid succession in a single year, I actually think the fall feasts are fulfilled by Jesus thusly: 1. FoT - Second coming...Jesus sets foot on the Mt. of Olives, re-takes Jerusalem, gathers His own - the remnant from Petra and other survivors from the 4 corners of the earth. 2. Yom Kippur - Day of Atonement - 10 days later, Armageddon in the valley to the north 3. Tabernacles - We make booths and begin to dwell with Jesus on Earth Sheep and Goat Judgement follows....then, I think Hanukkah (2025?) may be the official beginning of the Millennium.
[edit] I also have a timeline that works the day counts with 1290 days hitting Passover, then 1260 hitting FoT 2025. To be valid, rapture would occur on or around Oct. 3 2018.
Not date setting...just think it's an interesting theory. It works starting in 2018, but doesn't work for several years going forward.
IMHO, YMMV
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Post by venge on Sept 14, 2018 17:28:33 GMT -6
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Post by fitz on Sept 14, 2018 17:32:02 GMT -6
LOL venge . Now that was good! But, you forgot the stuffing! MUST have stuffing.
Now if my theory is anywhere close to correct, you'll be feasting at a different banquet this year.
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Post by sawdy on Sept 14, 2018 23:24:45 GMT -6
I too get excited for fall feasts... candid yams Candid yams? Do they do their own standup? 🤣 Sorry, that was my attempt at being tuberous. I yam also a fan. That combination is a mash made in heaven.
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Post by uscgvet on Sept 15, 2018 9:49:35 GMT -6
A passage that Paul wrote has been sticking to me for a while about the (feasts?) Galatians 4:9 But now after you have known God, or rather are known by God, how is it that you turn again to the weak and beggarly elements, to which you desire again to be in bondage? 10 You observe days and months and seasons and years. 11 I am afraid for you, lest I have labored for you in vain.
Paul is attacking new Christians for going back into bondage... observing (feasts?)
*Note* I'm still studying and praying on this one in the context of this passage.
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Post by nana on Sept 15, 2018 18:05:50 GMT -6
A passage that Paul wrote has been sticking to me for a while about the (feasts?) Galatians 4:9 But now after you have known God, or rather are known by God, how is it that you turn again to the weak and beggarly elements, to which you desire again to be in bondage? 10 You observe days and months and seasons and years. 11 I am afraid for you, lest I have labored for you in vain. Paul is attacking new Christians for going back into bondage... observing (feasts?) *Note* I'm still studying and praying on this one in the context of this passage. I look at the days as a time marker and do not celebrate them. I believe watching is different than observing/practicing them as the Jews do.
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Post by mike on Sept 15, 2018 18:30:09 GMT -6
A passage that Paul wrote has been sticking to me for a while about the (feasts?) Galatians 4:9 But now after you have known God, or rather are known by God, how is it that you turn again to the weak and beggarly elements, to which you desire again to be in bondage? 10 You observe days and months and seasons and years. 11 I am afraid for you, lest I have labored for you in vain. Paul is attacking new Christians for going back into bondage... observing (feasts?) *Note* I'm still studying and praying on this one in the context of this passage. Reading the context it sounds like the Galatians were "back sliding" into observation and works system. Compare with Colossians where I read this as a warning to not slip back into this bondage but it's certainly ok to observe. Col 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: 17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ
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Post by mike on Sept 15, 2018 18:32:08 GMT -6
I think my chubby finger hit the "lock thread" button but I'm not sure. Was this thread supposed to be locked?
Edit - I don't see a reason why it should
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Post by Natalie on Sept 15, 2018 18:34:03 GMT -6
I was working on my post while Mike posted, so I feel that I just repeated what he said. Yes, and studying how they point to Christ can be of great benefit. I think those in Galatians thought they needed to become Jews to become Christians. Thus the need for circumcision and observation of holy days. That is my understanding of why Paul wrote such things to them. Christ set them free. Gal 5:1 I think the feast days can be celebrated as a rememberance or of a pointing to what Christ will do, but they are not a requirement. (No, I don't think it was supposed to be locked )
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Post by kjs on Sept 17, 2018 9:48:38 GMT -6
Just saw this posted on the shout ....
According to Scott Clarke Oct 10th is the REAL F of T
Most of it is review -- with the last 6 minutes giving details how he got that date..........
I AM NOT doubting him.....
I am all for being in the Rapture this year .....
But like I said in the opening post .... is it possible the rapture does not happen on a feast day?
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